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Too many fake current affairs posts on MN

190 replies

inthetrenches1 · 10/01/2025 20:08

I’ve never started a post before (I don’t think?), I’m an on-off lurker for a while, but what’s become apparent is the number of posts on MN that have clearly been posted by political parties opposing the government. It’s just another tactic used these days like creating online petitions and fake polls about issues/fake issues to get sectors of society riled up about things they were never worried about before.

Misinformation filtering into society is at an all-time high. You can see them a mile away on here. Next time you see a “I’ve seen a poll saying Reform are more popular than Labour” just remember it’s probably a lackey of Farage and Tice’s, with seven mobile phones and three laptops, thirty different fake profiles on the go, gleefully making up these baseless posts on here and on social media.

If you want to leave a comment feel free, I only came here to post, I probably won’t be reading the replies

OP posts:
inthetrenches1 · 16/01/2025 21:21

Hoppingabout · 16/01/2025 11:15

Do you mean the repetition of "£22 billion black hole"?

No. And it’s frightening how many people don’t even realise about that because of the way some of the media framed it, when the report came out in Q4 of last year. I had a backwards and forwards with someone on TikTok at the end of last year who said Labour had spent over budget by £21bil in their first couple of months in charge, “just read the OBR report it’s not difficult” and I was like errrrr you do know that report is about financial reporting in March 2024, when the Conservatives were in power? Go back and read it again. And after that he was strangely silent…

Anyway, my point is, I don’t think enough people realise about the fiscal misreporting that’s all part of the mess the new govt inherited. The real kickers I see on Mumsnet are the very specifically worded posts that reek of a political intern throwing onto Mumsnet at the behest of Kemi Badenoch or someone similar. And let me be clear, I am not a die-hard supporter of any one party, as I’ve mentioned before. I am, however, a diehard supporter of the truth.

OP posts:
Hoppingabout · 16/01/2025 11:15

TheYearOfSmallThings · 16/01/2025 10:59

I also think there is something happening that is beyond people just expressing their own views for the sake of discussion. The volume, repetitive nature of posts, repetitive nature of responses and even certain words and terms cropping up is noticeable.

Do you mean the repetition of "£22 billion black hole"?

Chillilounger · 16/01/2025 11:13

I agree. Just don't engage and maybe report if you think it's bots.

Barbadossunset · 16/01/2025 11:11

TheYearOfSmallThings · Today 10:59

I also think there is something happening that is beyond people just expressing their own views for the sake of discussion. The volume, repetitive nature of posts, repetitive nature of responses and even certain words and terms cropping up is noticeable.

Could you give some examples of this?

EasternStandard · 16/01/2025 11:07

Hoppingabout · 16/01/2025 10:34

I can't tell fake posts anyway. There seems to be lots of people with different views from almost sides of the political spectrum. And some rascals even don't toe the party line on all issues!! So it's a mishmash which is good. No one wants an echo chamber presumably as that would be boring.

No one wants an echo chamber presumably as that would be boring.

Ha I’d say debatable given some threads

EasternStandard · 16/01/2025 11:07

TheYearOfSmallThings · 16/01/2025 10:59

I also think there is something happening that is beyond people just expressing their own views for the sake of discussion. The volume, repetitive nature of posts, repetitive nature of responses and even certain words and terms cropping up is noticeable.

This isn’t hard to understand even Labour have standard phrases that get picked up

TheYearOfSmallThings · 16/01/2025 10:59

I also think there is something happening that is beyond people just expressing their own views for the sake of discussion. The volume, repetitive nature of posts, repetitive nature of responses and even certain words and terms cropping up is noticeable.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 16/01/2025 10:55

MumsNet doesn't allow spam or advertising, and that's what bots and paid posters are. Calling individuals "bots" is troll hunting which is also not allowed.

Anyone can report posts they seriously suspect are from a bot or a paid poster and MNHQ will investigate. MN relies on all of us doing that. Or if people see a lot of instances that aren't being dealt with then raise the issue on Site Stuff.

BIossomtoes · 16/01/2025 10:53

Nothing would induce me to go anywhere near a Brexit thread!

Barbadossunset · 16/01/2025 10:52

I don’t think anyone does. It would be incredibly boring. Civilised debate is good.

Have you tried going on the Brexit thread as a leaver?🤣
(Things may have changed there - I haven’t looked for a year or so)

BIossomtoes · 16/01/2025 10:49

Barbadossunset · 16/01/2025 10:48

No one wants an echo chamber presumably as that would be boring.

I think some do! 😂

I don’t think anyone does. It would be incredibly boring. Civilised debate is good.

Barbadossunset · 16/01/2025 10:48

No one wants an echo chamber presumably as that would be boring.

I think some do! 😂

Hoppingabout · 16/01/2025 10:34

CharityShopChic · 16/01/2025 09:55

I think it's very dangerous to assume that every single person who is on the opposite "side" politically is a bot or paid poster. People on MN are from across the political spectrum and everyone is entitled to their view. Just don't engage with posts you think are fake.

I can't tell fake posts anyway. There seems to be lots of people with different views from almost sides of the political spectrum. And some rascals even don't toe the party line on all issues!! So it's a mishmash which is good. No one wants an echo chamber presumably as that would be boring.

CharityShopChic · 16/01/2025 09:55

I think it's very dangerous to assume that every single person who is on the opposite "side" politically is a bot or paid poster. People on MN are from across the political spectrum and everyone is entitled to their view. Just don't engage with posts you think are fake.

EasternStandard · 16/01/2025 09:49

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 16/01/2025 09:48

I agree with the OP that this is happening. It's pretty obvious. Mumsnet as mouthpiece for the right, these days.

Do you not notice pro Labour posts?

It’s only recently mnhq started deleted those who used ‘bot’ for any view not Labour

Finally and tg, that was tedious

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 16/01/2025 09:48

I agree with the OP that this is happening. It's pretty obvious. Mumsnet as mouthpiece for the right, these days.

BIossomtoes · 15/01/2025 19:50

Hoppingabout · 15/01/2025 18:12

"Evidence" often just seems to be a link to an often biased newspaper which repeats what the poster says and can easily be looked up by anyone. It's also a tactic often deployed by the people who demand the "evidence" but then don't supply any themselves. If I want to check a post I look it up myself. Demanding "evidence" rather than dealing with an argument or checking something yourself is lazy. That's just in my opinion though. We aren't here writing opinion pieces for the Telegraph (which is of course always correct in all things). We are just here for a chat, surely.

That’s why I said I avoid media links as much as possible. 🤷‍♀️

Hoppingabout · 15/01/2025 18:12

BIossomtoes · 15/01/2025 16:43

You took that completely out of context. It was a conversation above backing up what you say with evidence. I seem to remember adding that I respect that poster for the robustness of her contributions, even though I disagree with just about everything she posts. It was a compliment. Shame you didn’t use the quote function.

"Evidence" often just seems to be a link to an often biased newspaper which repeats what the poster says and can easily be looked up by anyone. It's also a tactic often deployed by the people who demand the "evidence" but then don't supply any themselves. If I want to check a post I look it up myself. Demanding "evidence" rather than dealing with an argument or checking something yourself is lazy. That's just in my opinion though. We aren't here writing opinion pieces for the Telegraph (which is of course always correct in all things). We are just here for a chat, surely.

BIossomtoes · 15/01/2025 16:43

Barbadossunset · 15/01/2025 16:28

The only poster I can think of who I can say definitely comments to promote their favoured party is one who is notorious for their use of copy and paste and providing links.

@Blossomtoes loads of posters comment on here to promote their favoured party. Even if a poster misspells the prime minister’s name, this grave error will be pointed out within a few minutes.
There is even a long-runnning thread devoted to praising our dear leader.

You took that completely out of context. It was a conversation above backing up what you say with evidence. I seem to remember adding that I respect that poster for the robustness of her contributions, even though I disagree with just about everything she posts. It was a compliment. Shame you didn’t use the quote function.

Barbadossunset · 15/01/2025 16:28

The only poster I can think of who I can say definitely comments to promote their favoured party is one who is notorious for their use of copy and paste and providing links.

@Blossomtoes loads of posters comment on here to promote their favoured party. Even if a poster misspells the prime minister’s name, this grave error will be pointed out within a few minutes.
There is even a long-runnning thread devoted to praising our dear leader.

mollymile · 15/01/2025 09:46

There have been times when the MN collective gets too carried away with Left leaning ideas. Brexit I seem to remember huge confidence in remaining in EU. That was wrong, we narrowly Left. The certainty that Boris would not be elected and he won 80 majority.
It doesn't need Bots to show that there is as wide a range of opinion as IRL.

Hoppingabout · 14/01/2025 17:29

I don't think Yougov was ever particularly partisan; it usually only asks voting intention. Maybe how well you think a politician is doing. (Keir obviously always gets a fat zero from me automatically so I'm not sure how useful my answers are...).

I have named-changed a couple of times as I had revealed a bit too much on other threads. Is this something that's not approved of? I don't know?

I don't think there are many bots on here and as to paid people, surely a thread will only gain traction if it's on a topic that engages people in the first place so I don't see the issue. Plenty of posters happy to argue their corner robustly no matter what colour their politics;.no need to accuse those with opposing views of nefarious behavior.

Efacsen · 12/01/2025 13:20

Julen7 · 12/01/2025 12:51

Like YouGov which according to a PP is also not reliable as pro-Tory?

Zahawi sold his stake in YouGov quite a long time ago now - under it's current stewardship it seems a more balanced outfit in most peoples view and fairly well respected and widely quoted

No source is going to be entirely neutral but clearly some sources are better than others

Julen7 · 12/01/2025 12:51

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 12:47

I try very hard not to use media sources for this very reason. Statistics are readily available from the various bodies that exist to provide evidence for government decisions. Only the irredeemably partisan would argue with that.

Like YouGov which according to a PP is also not reliable as pro-Tory?

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 12:47

I try very hard not to use media sources for this very reason. Statistics are readily available from the various bodies that exist to provide evidence for government decisions. Only the irredeemably partisan would argue with that.