Too many fake current affairs posts on MN

I think that proves me right: the OBR did not support the claim made many, many times by Reeves and Starmer and others to have been left a £22bn ‘black hole’.

Read the first paragraph again.

It kind of did. https://fullfact.org/economy/22-billion-black-hole/#what-the-obr-has-said

It is true that the OBR review does not confirm Labour’s £22 billion figure, but the £9.5 billion figure referenced in the review does not necessarily prove that the £22 billion figure published by the Treasury under Labour is incorrect either, and the OBR did not say that the government “made up” this figure, as has been claimed.

This is because Labour’s figure includes pressures which were identified after OBR prepared its forecast and so were beyond the scope of the OBR’s review. (This includes pressures that emerged while the Conservatives were still in government and some which were linked to decisions taken under Labour—for example, its decision to accept 2024/25 pay award recommendations in July).

It's very simple. If you are a public sector worker such as a train.driver (already very well paid) you are fine.

If you work in the private sector, own or work for a business, are a farmer, are a pensioner, are someone who wants to pass already taxed income on to your kids, are a young person hoping for a part time job to get you through uni you are not fine. This will become clearer as 2025 progresses and unemployment rises.

We don't need to be emotional about other people's posts. We just need to see what happens this year. Because I can tell you from what I have already seen in my area re the private sector it's not looking good and it is as a direct result of the Budget.

Still mad. Can't agree with you there.

That's mad. The socialist test like public sector workers?

I can't even respond to the rest of your post, it is so ... Something.

No. It isn't better and it's going to get a lot worse. For my own family already and for the country. Apart from selected favoured groups that pass the socialist test like public sector workers.

Gaslighting by another government? We dont need very long memories to remember that the previous government left a mess. Whether it's 9bn or 22bn we know they left the country in a terrible state so bickering over that sounds more like gaslighting.

There have been some better signs the last few days. Can't you be happy and admit that maybe something is going better?

The OBR didn’t support the black hole claim.

Virtually everything you’ve said is untrue and just Labour propaganda.

One simple fact, for example. The last government started proceedings to recover the money from Mone. Why is that never mentioned by Labour supporters?

The OBR didn’t support the black hole claim.

Virtually everything you’ve said is untrue and just Labour propaganda.

One simple fact, for example. The last government started proceedings to recover the money from Mone. Why is that never mentioned by Labour supporters?

They never said it would be easy, in fact they openly said it would get worse before it got better, I’m unsure how an incoming govt could rescue all of the services that were decimated during the previous govt’s 14 years of plundering… you sound like you’re not willing to give them a chance, like we had it so good under the Conservatives? A bit Stockholm Syndromey almost.

Yeah they had to pay the doctors what they were worth to stop the strikes. The previous govt should’ve done that months and months ago but, like asylum processing, they left it to die a slow painful administrative death and now everyone is worse off because they couldn’t be arsed to fix it. It’s like they didn’t want to give money to public services and instead gave it to Matt Hancock’s local pub landlord and Michelle Mone.

Also reported in the news today was the IMF’s forecast that the UK will have the fastest growing economy in Europe, alongside the good news story from earlier this week that inflation has fallen. But we don’t see this widely reported because it isn’t what much of the media wants us to know. Even the BBC buried the IMF forecast in a story today behind a headline of “IMF doesn’t think much of incoming Trump administration oh and PS apparently the IMF think we are doing quite well, shit on it” I can almost hear Chris Mason spluttering into his keyboard.

But let me repeat: that ‘fiscal black hole’ that people think is perpetuated on these threads, was due to misreporting by the previous government as confirmed by the OBR. It’s not due to the Labour government’s making. And if you are saying this is wrong, please refer to the OBR report.

They spent billions in the first days by awarding huge pay rises to train drivers, junior doctors, etc. The black hole is of their own making paying off their trade union mates. Reeves is fucked now - tax rises or spending cuts. Times today reports that the country has lost 10,800 millionaires last year. These include people like non-doms, who in a survey were found to each pay £800,000 of VAT in the last tax year. Where is the lost tax revenue going to come from?

No. And it’s frightening how many people don’t even realise about that because of the way some of the media framed it, when the report came out in Q4 of last year. I had a backwards and forwards with someone on TikTok at the end of last year who said Labour had spent over budget by £21bil in their first couple of months in charge, “just read the OBR report it’s not difficult” and I was like errrrr you do know that report is about financial reporting in March 2024, when the Conservatives were in power? Go back and read it again. And after that he was strangely silent…

Anyway, my point is, I don’t think enough people realise about the fiscal misreporting that’s all part of the mess the new govt inherited. The real kickers I see on Mumsnet are the very specifically worded posts that reek of a political intern throwing onto Mumsnet at the behest of Kemi Badenoch or someone similar. And let me be clear, I am not a die-hard supporter of any one party, as I’ve mentioned before. I am, however, a diehard supporter of the truth.

Dare not read the replies more likes. Just as you clearly don’t read newspapers. The polls are terrible. They don’t need bots on Mumsnet. Our Attorney-General seems to be doing a fabulous job now (in concert with all the useless Cabinet members). Apparently giving away the Chagos islands and paying IRA terrorists millions in compensation will stem the populist tide.

I’ve never started a post before (I don’t think?), I’m an on-off lurker for a while, but what’s become apparent is the number of posts on MN that have clearly been posted by political parties opposing the government. It’s just another tactic used these days like creating online petitions and fake polls about issues/fake issues to get sectors of society riled up about things they were never worried about before.

Misinformation filtering into society is at an all-time high. You can see them a mile away on here. Next time you see a “I’ve seen a poll saying Reform are more popular than Labour” just remember it’s probably a lackey of Farage and Tice’s, with seven mobile phones and three laptops, thirty different fake profiles on the go, gleefully making up these baseless posts on here and on social media.

If you want to leave a comment feel free, I only came here to post, I probably won’t be reading the replies

No. And it’s frightening how many people don’t even realise about that because of the way some of the media framed it, when the report came out in Q4 of last year. I had a backwards and forwards with someone on TikTok at the end of last year who said Labour had spent over budget by £21bil in their first couple of months in charge, “just read the OBR report it’s not difficult” and I was like errrrr you do know that report is about financial reporting in March 2024, when the Conservatives were in power? Go back and read it again. And after that he was strangely silent…

Anyway, my point is, I don’t think enough people realise about the fiscal misreporting that’s all part of the mess the new govt inherited. The real kickers I see on Mumsnet are the very specifically worded posts that reek of a political intern throwing onto Mumsnet at the behest of Kemi Badenoch or someone similar. And let me be clear, I am not a die-hard supporter of any one party, as I’ve mentioned before. I am, however, a diehard supporter of the truth.

No. And it’s frightening how many people don’t even realise about that because of the way some of the media framed it, when the report came out in Q4 of last year. I had a backwards and forwards with someone on TikTok at the end of last year who said Labour had spent over budget by £21bil in their first couple of months in charge, “just read the OBR report it’s not difficult” and I was like errrrr you do know that report is about financial reporting in March 2024, when the Conservatives were in power? Go back and read it again. And after that he was strangely silent…

Anyway, my point is, I don’t think enough people realise about the fiscal misreporting that’s all part of the mess the new govt inherited. The real kickers I see on Mumsnet are the very specifically worded posts that reek of a political intern throwing onto Mumsnet at the behest of Kemi Badenoch or someone similar. And let me be clear, I am not a die-hard supporter of any one party, as I’ve mentioned before. I am, however, a diehard supporter of the truth.

No. And it’s frightening how many people don’t even realise about that because of the way some of the media framed it, when the report came out in Q4 of last year. I had a backwards and forwards with someone on TikTok at the end of last year who said Labour had spent over budget by £21bil in their first couple of months in charge, “just read the OBR report it’s not difficult” and I was like errrrr you do know that report is about financial reporting in March 2024, when the Conservatives were in power? Go back and read it again. And after that he was strangely silent…

Anyway, my point is, I don’t think enough people realise about the fiscal misreporting that’s all part of the mess the new govt inherited. The real kickers I see on Mumsnet are the very specifically worded posts that reek of a political intern throwing onto Mumsnet at the behest of Kemi Badenoch or someone similar. And let me be clear, I am not a die-hard supporter of any one party, as I’ve mentioned before. I am, however, a diehard supporter of the truth.