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Starmer says we are going to have more money in our pockets (new year's speach

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JoyousPinkPeer · 01/01/2025 18:26

Do you beleive him or do you think he is a liar?

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Circumferences · 01/01/2025 19:59

Oh look, another thread bashing a government that’s been in power less than six months. Were you all asleep for the previous 14 years?

In the space of six months, Starmer is less popular than Liz Truss.
That took some doing.
That's quite an achievement.

BIossomtoes · 01/01/2025 19:57

Oh look, another thread bashing a government that’s been in power less than six months. Were you all asleep for the previous 14 years?

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 01/01/2025 19:56

The increase in NI has killed recruitment and growth. Planned pay rises aren't happening. The damage to the economy means interest rates and mortgages are staying high

It's bonkers when we know we need increased recruitment and production to improve the economy, but then they slap on the NI increase which means companies can't recruit! I mean, what a twisted brain came up with that idea!

Circumferences · 01/01/2025 19:56

Starmer refuses to stand up for our country.
He's facilitating the theft and blatant profiteering going on with Supermarket food costs, energy gas/electricity bills, petrol bills, water company bills, basic human necessity costs of living, he's facilitating their greed. He's using our taxes to pay for war in the middle east, facilitating Israel and whatever Israel wants no matter what cost, he's facilitating rising levels of immigration because all these wars in the middle east, these displaced and war torn people need somewhere else to go. He thinks they should all come here.

He is not a friend of ours. He's a shit bag.

Cyclebabble · 01/01/2025 19:56

I cannot see how he can say that. Power and water prices are going up as is council tax. The rise in NI will make its way through to what we pay for other things as well, notably all forms of childcare. The job market is tightening as well so wages will be squeezed.

Meadowfinch · 01/01/2025 19:54

Water bills are soaring, utility bills are on the way up, public transport fares are rising.

The increase in NI has killed recruitment and growth. Planned pay rises aren't happening. The damage to the economy means interest rates and mortgages are staying high.

Housing benefit will stay frozen and the two child cap remains, meaning less money in the pockets of a lot of people who need help.

For the next 4.5 years, I'll focus on self sufficiency. Cut utility bills by relying more on the log burner. Cut all discretionary spending. Prepare for the worst. Do what I can to support the local youth group because they need help.

Labour won't get a second term, so at least this mess has an end date.

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 01/01/2025 19:54

I mean, did anyone seriously believe Snake Charmer Starmer was going to do a better job than the Tories did?

They're all cut from the same cloth. But Starmer is worse because he was trying to hide who he is and hoodwink the country. At least the Tories never hid their agenda.

We can only pray that in 4 years time Starmer is shown the door, before he does too much damage.

twistyizzy · 01/01/2025 19:49

Havalona · 01/01/2025 19:43

Reform and the hard right of the Tories are waiting in the long grass to give us all lots of money after the next election. Not that long to wait now folks so watch this space...

Yep and the more Labour fuck up and lie then the more votes they hand to Reform.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 01/01/2025 19:47

Perhaps he meant by 'we' the MPs?

I suppose if you get your spectacles and clothes paid for, then you will have more money on your pocket.

taxguru · 01/01/2025 19:46

Don;t believe a single word of it. In six months they've done absolutely bugger all to grow the economy, so where's the money going to come from to put more money in people's pockets?? Unless they're planning on increasing debt even more and not only land our children with the repayments, but grandchildren and great grandchildren too? Or maybe they're planning to devalue the currency or create hyper-inflation so we have "more" money in our pockets but worth less!

Hoppinggreen · 01/01/2025 19:44

Havalona · 01/01/2025 19:43

Reform and the hard right of the Tories are waiting in the long grass to give us all lots of money after the next election. Not that long to wait now folks so watch this space...

They would have to promise me personally a million quid before I voted for them, and even then i would have to think about it

Havalona · 01/01/2025 19:43

Reform and the hard right of the Tories are waiting in the long grass to give us all lots of money after the next election. Not that long to wait now folks so watch this space...

Hoppinggreen · 01/01/2025 19:42

I know i'm not going to ahve more money but less - but Labour have made it VERY clear they aren't keen on the likes of me for some time now so I doubt Starmer meant me

stargirl1701 · 01/01/2025 19:41

@JoyousPinkPeer

No, not this year. Not even next year. 14 years of Conservative incompetence will take far longer to rectify. Tbh, only rejoining the EU will restore our growth.

BobnLen · 01/01/2025 19:40

Liar

CamelsForChristmas · 01/01/2025 19:40

Liar. The VAT on schooling is costing me an extra 7 k a year.

The rise in NI and minimum wage has meant my workplace ( a charity) has said they are unlikely to be able to last beyond the next quarter as we were quite close to the bone anyway.

Tristar15 · 01/01/2025 19:39

Porkyporkchop · 01/01/2025 18:29

I’ll believe it when I see it, and I’ve just seen an article that MPs are claiming hundreds of thousands of tax payer money for second homes so it’s not looking likely.

You’ve only just realised this? It’s been happening for decades!

Musicofthespiers · 01/01/2025 19:38

Definitely not.

hattie43 · 01/01/2025 19:37

He is a liar , thus incompetent government are way out their depth and no-one has confidence in them . The country will grind to a hault and be bankrupt .

NewNameNoelle · 01/01/2025 19:36

Well, utilities are going up, council tax is going up, VAT on school fees is costing us £5k a year more, we have a business employing staff and NI costs are going up, the economy doesn’t seem to be tracking in a positive direction, tax burden as a % of GDP is the biggest it’s ever been, so I’d be very surprised if it were correct in our case.

Based on his previous track record of lying, and his cabinet’s track record of lying, I’d say he’s lying.

HermioneWeasley · 01/01/2025 19:35

And do I believe Starmer? Absolutely not. He and Rachel Reeves are fucking clueless

HermioneWeasley · 01/01/2025 19:34

SleeplikeababyTonight · 01/01/2025 19:29

How can supermarkets still charge what they do as well?! Surely they should be capped; prices are disgusting!

Have you seen the margins supermarkets make - it’s a couple of percent. The UK grocery industry is generally recognised as one of the most competitive industries on the planet

Tlaloc999 · 01/01/2025 19:34

There is no wriggle room in Rachel Reeves’ budgets.

When Trump insists on 2.5%/3% of GDP on defence spending the government will be up the creek without a paddle. That‘s before the impact of tariffs - directly or indirectly.

But don‘t delude yourself into thinking that another party would be able to do a better job.

People in UK have to wake up to the reality that we have been living beyond our means for decades. Unless productivity increases( more people in the workforce, more innovation etc) our standard of living will decline.

Saucery · 01/01/2025 19:34

MichaelandKirk · 01/01/2025 19:25

He is flaying around not knowing what to do next. They are going to trash this economy.

He’s not skinning you alive, however much you may feel like he is.
Do you mean ‘flailing’? Hmm

Another76543 · 01/01/2025 19:34

I’m not sure who he expects to have more money in their pockets.

Utility bills and council tax is increasing. The inflation rate looks to be increasing again, and that’s before the knock on impact of the living wage and NIC changes.

Added to that, VAT on school fees will have a knock on effect to the discretionary spending of those families affected. Those families need to find thousands of pounds a year more in tax, which needs to be found from somewhere. They’ll spend less in the economy.

With regard to the NIC and living wage changes, business leaders have been warning about the impact this will have. Employers will have less money available for pay rises and recruitment. They are also likely to increase prices, which affects everyone.

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