Assisted Dying Bill

Yes, you're right. I believe in giving people autonomy.

It's not about me - and that's the difference between us.

If you don't want an assisted death, don't have one. It's like abortion: they aren't compulsory but for those who choose that route they can be a godsend.

Funny that, I've not seen one person who is against the bill state the reason is worry for themselves.

In what way is aborting a fetus akin to murder of a person?

I agree. I have seen too many cases of financial abuse of the elderly, their children and even grandchildren spending their money without their knowledge 'Because it will be mine one day anyway', someone demanding their elderly mother pay their travel expenses for them to come and visit her.

A lot of people are absolutely horrible and would coerce an elderly person to pop off at a conveniently earlier time before the care fees reduce their inheritance.

Or the elderly person will say they feel like a burden and the relative won't disagree.

If you don't want an assisted death, don't have one. It's like abortion: they aren't compulsory but for those who choose that route they can be a godsend.

I for one am greatly relieved that just maybe, I won't have to suffer an awful protracted death if one is forecast for me.

People are unable to see bigger pictures now. When the light bulbs ping on, it's too late.

Everything you say @ByMerryKoala

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It suits them to be myopic. It suits them to have a peaceful death, and sod the consequences.

I think this bill is horrific. I am devastated it's been passed and can't believe that people are so myopic and self absorbed they can't see how this will go.

Of course it makes a difference when the state provides the means to kill yourself if someone is then murdered in that manner. You must be a bit dense if you can't see the difference in death being an accidental outcome of an activity which doesn't normally result in death and the above situation.

Babies are killed every time someone has an abortion should that be stopped as well?

Which babies are killed, sorry? Because that's murder and illegal.

But how many? If anyone? You have no idea and it is very unlikely to happen. It is pure scaremongering.

1 is one too many.

Do you agree with capital murder?

Stop scaremongering and think of the countless people enduring horrific pain under the status quo.

This is the reality. No scaremonging.

So you're saying I'm not thinking of people in horrific pain? How did you reach that conclusion?

So what, that makes no difference. They are still allowed by the state and a lot of people die because of what the state allows.

If the state allows assisted dying, then of course people will die. That's the whole point of it.

Babies are killed every time someone has an abortion should that be stopped as well?

My local MP put out a statement that he was in favour in principle but had concerns over the bill itself - there were inadequate safeguards in it and there had not been enough time given to satisfactorily debate something that would fundamentally change the way our country handled death and terminal illness.
He also said that as it was a private members bill there was no guarantee that there would be enough time given to thrash out all the nuances and safeguards needed.

Death isn't the intended, expected and inevitable outcome each time you drive on the road.

How many deaths on the road are acceptable before we ban everyone from driving?

How many people can be killed by drunk drivers before we ban alcohol?

How many people can be killed crossing the road before we ban everyone crossing the road?

Once you've answered those questions I will try and answer yours.

How many murders facilitated by the state would be tolerable?

But how many? If anyone? You have no idea and it is very unlikely to happen. It is pure scaremongering.

Because we're more realistic and are used to the sight of blood?

I'm very pleased with the outcome of the vote. I want to potentially have an influence on when my life ends.

87% of people in the Netherlands are now supportive of euthanasia for those with mental health problems.

Give it time.

Great money-saving initiative.

So if we discover 428 cases then we just write them off?

Apparently so, @ResisterOfTwaddleRex, and regarding the Canadian horrors you can hear the minimising now ... "Why split hairs over a few days / a form not filled in correctly / whatever - they wanted to die so that's all that matters"

How will you do that? It is the hands of the legislature, not the public. Do you have any thoughts about the worries disabled people have expressed?

They don't care @PandoraSox

They never did care.

I will never be able to work. It would be so much cheaper to euthanise than the disability payments I receive.

They don't care about the slippery slope.
On another thread a poster valued her life as worth more than a, in her words, "little old lady."

You can be euthanized for just being homeless in Canada.