Why do some people think Trump is a good man?

I am talking more generally when talking about name calling, it isn't you but it is on the thread.

I don't really have time for someone who brushes off criminal charges including sexual assault as 'disrespectful'. Claiming that he's too old to rape now anyway. Who seems to believe everything he says without question, despite evidence to the contrary.

I wouldn't have voted for trump for the same reasons, but I also wouldn't have voted for harris.

I would much prefer the politicians to argue about their politics and policies. but whether UK or USA this seems to be disappearing in to the past and it doesn't help that they call all make up whatever shit they like for their manifestoes and then just not bother with them.

I haven't called anyone names. I have engaged on this thread and others talking about the policies Trump wants to implement.

I'm happy to debate with people who are arguing in good faith. I'm cognizant of why many voted for Trump (and Brexit).

I don't really have time for someone who brushes off criminal charges including sexual assault as 'disrespectful'. Claiming that he's too old to rape now anyway. Who seems to believe everything he says without question, despite evidence to the contrary.

Because in four years time, the population gets to choose again.
It won't be trump, but if you spend the next four years calling them whatever names you like, then you are not going to be voice that is listened to.
Look at all the 'what good a brexit done' threads, and see that they are just an echo chamber.
Many will say that its because nothing good has come from brexit, anyone with an ounce of sense will tell you that the brexiters CBA to engage as they already now (or think that they know) what response they will get.

Why waste my time? The election is over. The proof will be in the circus.

I live in the US in a blue state. I'm british, just back here on holiday. I hated trump until around a year ago, when due to various things I realized like many Americans that most of msm has lied about him.

He is a family man, businessman, and successful enough that he doesn't need bribes to get in office. The democrats are truly awful. They have taken all family values down, stripped away many protections for us citizens while creating sanctuary cities to boost voter numbers. These sanctuary cities have cost billions and made life dirty and dangerous.

Most Democrat politicians seem to become enormously wealthy on modest salaries.

Trump raised /donated millions to those in crisis, has always supported black organizations quietly, without 'trumpeting' about it, and is promising amazing things for America.

Health reform with removal of additives in our food, prosecution and radical punishment for child molesters and human traffickers, deportation of criminals and illegals, going after corruption in the sec and other trading crimes, making life more affordable with no tax on ss for seniors or overtime, cutting down waste and beurocracy (40B on internet with not a single connection) etc etc.

Also he is not a war monger. If even a few of these things are improved I will be happy.

Remember he had 90% negative press while dems had 70% positive.

He won because he has an answer for everything while kamala couldn't give a coherent answer for almost anything and the few things she did promise were going to cost Americans a lot of money; the last straw for many.

I know msm misled the Public and lied so much that no one can believe he won but his was a grassroots campaign that only cost 300m because he didn't pay for supporters and most of his successful adverts were just reposting the democrats promises (they were that awful). She, on the other hand, blew $1.1B, bussing supporters from city to city, on billboards and celebrity endorsements (10m to Beyonce?) and her promises were awful.

Liken it to the petition for a general election to replace starmer which has amassed 1.2m signatures in 24 hours. People hate the democrats for what they have done over the last 4 years. The unhappiness with the democrats forced people like me to realise that trumps way is better.

Once you see past the msm lies and that his way is better, you are then more likely to see proof of all the positive things he has done, and wow, they are legion.

The lawfare against him was also ridiculous. I'm sure he was a little misogynistic and not the most respectful young man but that goes for 70 to 80 % of men. The rape charges against him were laughable (e jean). He is probably not the most virile man in the world now at age 78 and won't be skirt chasing. He has a focus to make everything better for his legacy. He's not going to seek reelection so is more driven to make a mark.

He is also probably our best hope of stopping ww3. Surely you want to live without threat of being nuked?

You could at least try.
Or have we learnt nothing from Brexit and subsequent elections?

I doubt I could pursade someone so enamoured with Trump that they believe every utterance and dismiss his serious midemenours.

He's a pathological liar and has been accused of rape which is apparently disrespectful.

Its interesting that when someone gives a full and honest answer to the OP's question they are accused of "drinking the kool aid".

With an attitude like that its easy to see why your not going to change people's views.

Is Kool Aid sugar free now?

I live in the US in a blue state. I'm british, just back here on holiday. I hated trump until around a year ago, when due to various things I realized like many Americans that most of msm has lied about him.

He is a family man, businessman, and successful enough that he doesn't need bribes to get in office. The democrats are truly awful. They have taken all family values down, stripped away many protections for us citizens while creating sanctuary cities to boost voter numbers. These sanctuary cities have cost billions and made life dirty and dangerous.

Most Democrat politicians seem to become enormously wealthy on modest salaries.

Trump raised /donated millions to those in crisis, has always supported black organizations quietly, without 'trumpeting' about it, and is promising amazing things for America.

Health reform with removal of additives in our food, prosecution and radical punishment for child molesters and human traffickers, deportation of criminals and illegals, going after corruption in the sec and other trading crimes, making life more affordable with no tax on ss for seniors or overtime, cutting down waste and beurocracy (40B on internet with not a single connection) etc etc.

Also he is not a war monger. If even a few of these things are improved I will be happy.

Remember he had 90% negative press while dems had 70% positive.

He won because he has an answer for everything while kamala couldn't give a coherent answer for almost anything and the few things she did promise were going to cost Americans a lot of money; the last straw for many.

I know msm misled the Public and lied so much that no one can believe he won but his was a grassroots campaign that only cost 300m because he didn't pay for supporters and most of his successful adverts were just reposting the democrats promises (they were that awful). She, on the other hand, blew $1.1B, bussing supporters from city to city, on billboards and celebrity endorsements (10m to Beyonce?) and her promises were awful.

Liken it to the petition for a general election to replace starmer which has amassed 1.2m signatures in 24 hours. People hate the democrats for what they have done over the last 4 years. The unhappiness with the democrats forced people like me to realise that trumps way is better.

Once you see past the msm lies and that his way is better, you are then more likely to see proof of all the positive things he has done, and wow, they are legion.

The lawfare against him was also ridiculous. I'm sure he was a little misogynistic and not the most respectful young man but that goes for 70 to 80 % of men. The rape charges against him were laughable (e jean). He is probably not the most virile man in the world now at age 78 and won't be skirt chasing. He has a focus to make everything better for his legacy. He's not going to seek reelection so is more driven to make a mark.

He is also probably our best hope of stopping ww3. Surely you want to live without threat of being nuked?

To be fair, he didn't say this, if you google "white light, bleach" you will find what he said. He was referring to something a HS person had said in a presentation just before Trump spoke briefly. I think it would also be fair to say that medical stuff is not his strong point, but the same could be said about most world leaders at the time, and Trump was basically trying to make sense of what had been said and kept asking the person "you are researching this, then?"

This is an example of why people are hacked off. There is a lot of discrediting and b*llocks going on, about nonsense. Just now people are worried about ww3. They are worried about not being able to afford food and other basics. They don't care about the mindless nonsense.

You really don’t understand the American healthcare system if you think the poor don’t have access. They do through Medicaid. It’s the middle class that pays through the nose. So right from the start you are talking things you know little about.

The American public is in favor of mass deportation and we can put more funds and manpower behind it. Don’t forget that illegal immigrants who cannot prove two years of habitual residency do not have to go through the court system. They can just be deported as an administrative process.

It's already been explained to you how Trump's promises are fantasies because America simply doesn't have the infrastructure to do this on a mass scale and I have no idea why you want the military on the streets and the police to act with impunity.

It's also been explained to you that gun control and domestic violence are huge issues in the US and effect far more people than illegal immigrants.

I know it's been pointed out to you because it was me who did it on another thread. I also wrote about the US opioid crisis and how many people that's killing.

I agree that the US needs to better control immigration. I don't like how illegal immigrants are exploited and keep wages down.

It's strange how the amount of illegal immigrants has remained the same since 2005 and how the immigration courts are so underfunded. The borders are understaffed and there aren't enough ICE officers to do the job.

There's no point repeating myself. You'll see for yourself soon enough what I mean. As for universal healthcare, it's blatantly obvious you wouldn't think this was a good thing as you voted for someone who wants further restrictions on healthcare for the poor.

Illegal immigration is the lightening rod that won Trump the election. Trump is going to fix everything wrong with America and he's going to start with this, I hope it works out for you.

What’s the point of universal health care if you can’t even stop illegal
immigrants from using it?

You have no solution for that. You can’t have open borders and have universal health care. The fact you even speak like this shows how unserious you are.

Not so much the wall but the Stay in Mexico policy was a good one. It encouraged people to apply for asylum in a port of entry and gave people the signal that asking for asylum after illegally crossing was not going to be tolerated.

Biden rescinded that policy btw

There are 452 miles on that border.
He only built new walls on parts of the border that had no previous wall and repaired or reinforced other stretches.
But he did it. Not just trash the idea 5 min after saying it. That is what I mean. You may not agree with his policies and he says quite a bit of jaw dropping bits here and there, but he is able to stick to an idea and policy for more than 5 min.

Given that only 52 miles of new border wall was built during his administration, the fact that you believe "he said he would build a wall and built it" says a lot about the American media and low-information voters.