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Why do some people think Trump is a good man?

260 replies

Lyannaa · 16/11/2024 19:28

There are a lot of people, even in the UK who act like you have offended their mum or dad if you point out what an awful person he clearly is. Even his own family don't like him and plenty of people have said how his relationships with his own children are merely transactional.

If people like him, is it because they are fascists themselves deep down? Or is it some type of mass hysteria?

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PureBoggin · 16/11/2024 21:19

Because he reflects their fears and concerns back to them. They think he tells the "truth".

SallyWD · 16/11/2024 21:17

I genuinely believe that not many think he's a good man but they love what he stands for, and they despise the "woke" people he stands against

MushMonster · 16/11/2024 21:13

I do not think people think he is a good person per se. But I think they appreciate that he speaks the truth of his intentions and mind, at times when many politicians keep taking more u-turns that humanely possible. As an example, he said he would build a wall and he built it.
I think wgat you observe is the consequences of much of the media and democrats stating that only thick as mince people could possibly vote for Trump. So, obviously, they are going to feel touchy about this.
Most USA voted republican. They will have to come up with some other explanation, won't they? Certainly, the republicans are offering a better solution to the problems the population faces.

Coconutter24 · 16/11/2024 20:50

Why do some people think Trump is a good man?

Why do you think he isn’t?

Newsenmum · 16/11/2024 20:50

ObieJoyful · 16/11/2024 19:48

Because there are news channels in the US who support him. They must heavily censor what they put out because my friend, who used to live in Texas, was a Trump supporter before she moved back to the UK… she couldn’t believe some of the stuff he came out with when she saw footage of him here!

That’s really interesting. Did she really not know?

username358 · 16/11/2024 20:48

Lyannaa · 16/11/2024 20:38

Most people who voted for Brexit are now whining to me about how much their shopping costs.

That's because they're the whining classes.

EmmaMaria · 16/11/2024 20:46

People want simple solutions. Even when those simple solutions are heinous. Deport immigrants and your problems will be solved. Build a wall and you'll have jobs. Make America great again. Vote for Brexit and the health service will be saved (oops, sorry, wrong country). Speak to people's self-interest and don't spare blaming somebody else for their problems. It's a winning formula.

Lyannaa · 16/11/2024 20:38

Most people who voted for Brexit are now whining to me about how much their shopping costs.

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CabbagesAndCeilingWax · 16/11/2024 20:38

I heard on R4 that less than a third of Americans who voted Republican are ardent trump supporters. And of that third, I don't think many of them are under the illusion that he's a nice guy. I just think he's the sort of not-very-nice guy who they think would be good to have on their side.

username358 · 16/11/2024 20:31

Lyannaa · 16/11/2024 20:27

To clarify, I'm not asking why people voted for him, I'm asking why some people act offended at the assertion that he's a lying sociopath who incited an insurrection.

I would have thought that was obvious. People don't like being told they're stupid and vote for lying sociopaths. (See Brexit)

RosieLeaf · 16/11/2024 20:27

RafaistheKingofClay · 16/11/2024 20:25

And none of them twigged he was lying?

I have no idea. Maybe they thought a 50/50 chance that he was telling the truth was still better than the zero change of Kamala doing anything.

Crowing that the people who voted for him must be stupid doesn’t help any arguments. The left need to sit down and seriously look at why people voted for him, and not for them. They can’t just claim to BE morally above them and that’s enough.

Lyannaa · 16/11/2024 20:27

To clarify, I'm not asking why people voted for him, I'm asking why some people act offended at the assertion that he's a lying sociopath who incited an insurrection.

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RafaistheKingofClay · 16/11/2024 20:25

RosieLeaf · 16/11/2024 20:18

People don’t need to like a president personally. He has said he is going to halve energy costs for US citizens in a year. He has said he’ll make sure they have more money in their pockets, when they are currently feeling financial pressures from rising costs of gas, prices, energy, inflation.

Kamala didn’t offer anything.

People vote with their wallets when the going gets tough.

And none of them twigged he was lying?

RafaistheKingofClay · 16/11/2024 20:23

username358 · 16/11/2024 19:37

Many people in the States are angry and frustrated. They're working harder than ever and getting less and less in return. They want someone who they can relate to who is going to shake things up and stick it to the man.

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They are really going to get a shock when they find out they are the man he’s sticking it too.

spuddy4 · 16/11/2024 20:23

Their other option was rubbish and made Trump look more appealing.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 16/11/2024 20:23

sprigatito · 16/11/2024 19:43

Some people aren't very bright

Some people share his lack of a moral dimension and have no problem with his appalling behaviour

Some people are ultra-Christian extremists who believe that God choosing to work through an imperfect instrument like Trump is a marvellous thing

Some people are brought up with such a visceral hatred of democrats that it's practically sectarianism and they believe anyone other than Trump means communist dystopia

I would say the democrats are the 'least bright' considering they couldn't defend against Trump.

Calling the majority in America racist, thick, etc will never win votes.

He swept to victory. The question isn't why they voted for him, it's why they didn't vote for the Democrats.

RosieLeaf · 16/11/2024 20:18

People don’t need to like a president personally. He has said he is going to halve energy costs for US citizens in a year. He has said he’ll make sure they have more money in their pockets, when they are currently feeling financial pressures from rising costs of gas, prices, energy, inflation.

Kamala didn’t offer anything.

People vote with their wallets when the going gets tough.

Uricon2 · 16/11/2024 20:16

There is something that he says to people who feel like their left behind that appeals to them and it is true that there are many of them in the US, who have rejected the Democrats because they do not speak for them anymore.

Bernie Sanders understood this last time and understands it now, but because he is regarded as being somewhat to the left of Lenin, when he is actually a democratic socialist, his voice and those like him are ignored, and they elect a monster.

Havalona · 16/11/2024 20:10

Well the only good thing I can think of is that at least Elon Musk cannot be President at any point in the future.

I'd be very wary of him just the same. A puppeteer.

Justcallmebebes · 16/11/2024 20:07

PastaAndProse · 16/11/2024 19:52

You realise the Republicans won both the house and the senate though? Confused

Of which the GOP control both, so a bit of a moot argument

Havalona · 16/11/2024 20:06

Those who voted for Trump were not voting for him, but voting for anyone but the Dems.

No one could be that stupid as to vote for that moron, but I believe they felt they could not vote for the Dems due to their leftie woke leanings and a black woman. I know, I know, Trump is despicable and there will be trouble ahead especially for women I think, but that's America for you.

Chowtime · 16/11/2024 20:00

Lyannaa · 16/11/2024 19:56

This is a best case scenario. But he has more than hinted he might try to change the law to enable him to stay in the WH come what may.

I bet he does!!!!

I've got visions of Trump hanging onto the White House frontdoor by his fingernails whilst the FBI try to unprise his fingers 😂

Lyannaa · 16/11/2024 19:56

Chowtime · 16/11/2024 19:48

Some of his policies are advantageous to certain demographic groups - so they vote for him in order to benefit from those advantages.

Also, I think everyone needs to calm down about Trump. He can only stay for 4 years, that'll soon be over, and then he's gone forever. He can't do much damage, the POTUS is a bit like a figurehead, the real power lies with the Senate and House of Representatives.

This is a best case scenario. But he has more than hinted he might try to change the law to enable him to stay in the WH come what may.

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username358 · 16/11/2024 19:54

Lyannaa · 16/11/2024 19:49

Winning an election doesn't mean you're intelligent. Plenty of fascist dictators all over the world.

And @username358 you've edited your first comment so that my response doesn't make sense now. You said that Trump is 'honest' and then deleted it. I wonder why? That's not what the edit function is for FYI

Because I thought my paragraph said it better.

Plenty of fascist dictators were intelligent enough to know what appealed to people's emotions. Many were highly charismatic.

Trump is honest in the sense that he shows you the mechanism behind the curtain.

PermanentTemporary · 16/11/2024 19:53

No idea. He's a disgusting person in so many ways. He's a corrupt, racist person who is obsessed with status. Thick as mince isn't right imo; he's cunning and manipulative with zero shame. Given that we had Johnson for so many years, I don't doubt that most of us as voters are shallow and easily led. I think Johnson and Trump despise us for choosing them.