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Some Trump supporters already feeling voter's remorse

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MsAmerica · 14/11/2024 00:41

I wonder why, what particular thing made them change their minds, at this late date, after just a week.

Of course, it confirms my opinion of the stupidity of Trumpers, that they're so ignorant that they imagine you can change your vote after the fact.

'How To Change My Vote' Searches Spike in States Won By Donald Trump
Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-how-change-vote-election-day-1984939

The Most Infuriating Search Term Is Trending in States Trump Won
Donald Trump’s supporters suddenly seem a lot less sure of their decision.
New Republic
https://newrepublic.com/post/188357/donald-trump-search-term-change-vote

'How to Change My Vote' Google Searches Surge in Trump States After Election
The term was most searched in many red states won by Trump
International Business Times
https://www.ibtimes.com/how-change-my-vote-google-searches-surge-trump-states-after-election-3750885

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Orwellsunshine · 09/04/2025 13:29

username358 · 09/04/2025 11:27

I was aware of it and the information was available should you wish to look. The problem was that anyone who countered the lies and misinformation was accused of being part of Project Fear and people were advised not to listen to experts.

Millions voted against Brexit and many knew of the repercussions. People in NI obviously spoke out at the time.

The information may well have been made available but it wasn’t expressed in a clear or accessible way. That’s why so few people understood the downside of Brexit. Communication from Remainers was poor.

username358 · 09/04/2025 11:27

Orwellsunshine · 09/04/2025 08:54

I don’t think it was made clear enough what the benefits of being in the EU were and what the drawbacks of leaving would be. I voted to remain because I was scared of the prospect of recession and I love European culture, but I did not fully understand about the problems Brexit would cause. For example I only really understood British people would lose the right to live and work in Europe and that students would lose the right to study in Europe after it happened. I wasn’t clear about the problems Brexit would create for Ireland/Northern Ireland etc etc. I watch the news and read the papers at least as much as the average person and I promise you all the repercussions of voting for Brexit were not spelt out clearly.

I was aware of it and the information was available should you wish to look. The problem was that anyone who countered the lies and misinformation was accused of being part of Project Fear and people were advised not to listen to experts.

Millions voted against Brexit and many knew of the repercussions. People in NI obviously spoke out at the time.

Kendodd · 09/04/2025 09:24

Orwellsunshine · 09/04/2025 08:54

I don’t think it was made clear enough what the benefits of being in the EU were and what the drawbacks of leaving would be. I voted to remain because I was scared of the prospect of recession and I love European culture, but I did not fully understand about the problems Brexit would cause. For example I only really understood British people would lose the right to live and work in Europe and that students would lose the right to study in Europe after it happened. I wasn’t clear about the problems Brexit would create for Ireland/Northern Ireland etc etc. I watch the news and read the papers at least as much as the average person and I promise you all the repercussions of voting for Brexit were not spelt out clearly.

I think when such a complex issue such as the economic, political and practical consequences of leaving the EU is concerned the average voter could actually do with a bit of humility. You had people without a GCSE to their name confidently stating that the governor of the Bank of England didn't have a clue what he was on about and was wrong.

Brexit was so complex, the idea that an ordinary person like me was in any way qualified to make such a decision is laughable but the population were manipulated into thinking they knew all about it. Add in a big group who thought they were voting to just get rid of foreigners.
The vast, vast majority of experts, across every area affected, said brexit was a terrible idea. The 'know it alls' should have just listened to them instead of thinking they know better.

Orwellsunshine · 09/04/2025 08:54

username358 · 16/11/2024 23:20

There were debates, TV shows, Radio shows and newspaper articles for a long time before the referendum. Everyone was aware the referendum was taking place and what the choice was.

Everyone was talking about it; people fell out about it. The facts were there should anyone wish to know. We've never had so much information at our fingertips.

People were very open about what a stupid idea it was but people argued until they were blue in the face that they were right. A lot of people voted against their own interests and wouldn't listen to reason.

If they chose not to vote or to listen to reason, there's not much other people can do.

I don’t think it was made clear enough what the benefits of being in the EU were and what the drawbacks of leaving would be. I voted to remain because I was scared of the prospect of recession and I love European culture, but I did not fully understand about the problems Brexit would cause. For example I only really understood British people would lose the right to live and work in Europe and that students would lose the right to study in Europe after it happened. I wasn’t clear about the problems Brexit would create for Ireland/Northern Ireland etc etc. I watch the news and read the papers at least as much as the average person and I promise you all the repercussions of voting for Brexit were not spelt out clearly.

MsAmerica · 09/04/2025 02:07

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 28/03/2025 16:58

If you’d been raised in the US under the idea of a democratic society, I think to live under Trump the pussy grabber would be humiliating. I feel sorry for them.

Omigod, yes, @marmaladeandpeanutbutter, it's embarrassing and infuriating. And by now, the pussy-grabbing is the least of it. How about country-grabbing?
You have no idea how bad it was in the first term, to wake up in the morning, and reach for the radio for a weather report, but cringing to brace yourself for news of a new disgrace.

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Kendodd · 07/04/2025 18:53

I lived in America in the 1980s when Japan was the big boggy man. I remember a widely reported survey at the time with the question -
Would you rather -
A. The American economy grew at 2% and the Japanese grew at 2.5%
Or
B. The American economy shrunk at 2% and the Japanese economy shrunk at 2.5%.

Most answered B by a big margin so maybe Trump supporters are happy to tank their own economy as long as other countries suffer more ?

Lalgarh · 07/04/2025 18:00

Shwish · 07/04/2025 15:20

I think you're probably right about both being "cult" like. But why? I don't get it.

Resentment of the Others (feared by the white Midwest Americans) doing too well, according to this. They see this as a zero sum game, so minorities doing well economically to them means they are being cheated out of something.

It's why Trump uses the same language on tariffs

https://archive.ph/d6Qdx

username358 · 07/04/2025 17:34

BIossomtoes · 07/04/2025 17:04

Let’s see how quickly they turn on him when the economy is in the toilet. It won’t take long. The markets have already crashed.

He has already countered that. It's a dose of medicine ie suck it up for the time being.

BIossomtoes · 07/04/2025 17:04

Let’s see how quickly they turn on him when the economy is in the toilet. It won’t take long. The markets have already crashed.

username358 · 07/04/2025 15:36

Shwish · 07/04/2025 15:20

I think you're probably right about both being "cult" like. But why? I don't get it.

People relate to him. What happened was people were fed up with the status quo. It didn't seem to matter who was in power, nothing much changed.

Trump was the wild card because Clinton just represented more of the same. He connected to the working class and promised to make their lives better. He was going to rebuild American industry and keep out immigrants.

'I'm gonna build a wall and I'm gonna bring back American production.' This was particularly appealing to those in the rust belt.

This time round Trump promised to MAGA and he was gonna round up illegals, keep women safe, bring down the price of food and fuel, bring back jobs, get rid off discrimination against white men and stop the woke agenda.

He promised to fix every single thing wrong with America and people want to believe that.

Shwish · 07/04/2025 15:20

Kendodd · 07/04/2025 08:14

I'd be surprised.
I think Trump, like Brexit, is a cult. People would burn their own house down before charging their mind.
Oh, and any damage if the fault of everything and everybody else.

I think you're probably right about both being "cult" like. But why? I don't get it.

Kendodd · 07/04/2025 08:14

I'd be surprised.
I think Trump, like Brexit, is a cult. People would burn their own house down before charging their mind.
Oh, and any damage if the fault of everything and everybody else.

user44221 · 07/04/2025 07:56

MsAmerica · 07/04/2025 01:42

You may be right, but at least Johnson was smarter and more experienced than Trump, who's an ignoramus.

True. Johnson was smart enough to act like an ignorant buffoon and Trump is one. I suppose Johnson had to in order to be able to do things like completely reverse his stance on Brexit. But the fact is, the people liked it in both cases, or enough of them did to hand them power. Hopefully Johnson isn't eyeing up Trump's comeback...

What a great world.

MsAmerica · 07/04/2025 01:42

HappydaysArehere · 05/04/2025 00:27

I imagine they were taken in by Trump just as so many in the UK believed the lies of Johnson.

You may be right, but at least Johnson was smarter and more experienced than Trump, who's an ignoramus.

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HappydaysArehere · 05/04/2025 00:27

I imagine they were taken in by Trump just as so many in the UK believed the lies of Johnson.

MsAmerica · 02/04/2025 02:29

username358 · 27/03/2025 01:29

And racism. I know someone who voted solely because he was going to get rid off forrins. Even though she was a former refugee. Maybe that counts as stupid...

I agree! But, yes, also, maybe that could come under my initial heading of "stupidity"?

I'm not sure if there's anything inherently wrong with wanting any societal balance to stay the same, and worrying about shifts, whether of race, nationality, gender, education level, whatever. But I suspect that some of the urge to "cleanse" the country also comes from stupidity. For instance, many Trumpers believe something that is untrue: That immigrants commit more crimes. If they weren't so stupid, they'd know this was untrue.

Unfortunately, it's also true that the idea of America as a melting pot has faded. I don't think that people wish to quickly become Americanized in the way they used to.

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username358 · 30/03/2025 19:35

Talkinpeace · 28/03/2025 17:32

Farridge's two wives were both German, as are his kids.
His current partner is a French Politician.

Tice and his partner live in Dubai as Economic Migrants

I thought his first wife was Irish.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 30/03/2025 18:21

@Topseyt123My position too.

Talkinpeace · 28/03/2025 17:32

Farridge's two wives were both German, as are his kids.
His current partner is a French Politician.

Tice and his partner live in Dubai as Economic Migrants

TulipTiptoer · 28/03/2025 17:19

Topseyt123 · 28/03/2025 17:11

Labour voter here, and no voter remorse. The Tories were already a shitshow and getting worse, so they wouldn't have been any better.

Ditto.

Topseyt123 · 28/03/2025 17:11

caringcarer · 27/03/2025 11:36

I think many Labour voters have voters remorse.

Labour voter here, and no voter remorse. The Tories were already a shitshow and getting worse, so they wouldn't have been any better.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 28/03/2025 17:00

(And Farages wife is German. He took advantage and got an EU passport. Hypocrisy rules with him. Rules are for the little people, not him and his ilk. Vote for him at your peril.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 28/03/2025 16:58

If you’d been raised in the US under the idea of a democratic society, I think to live under Trump the pussy grabber would be humiliating. I feel sorry for them.

username358 · 27/03/2025 16:24

user44221 · 27/03/2025 15:51

Farage. Such a great idea to get rid of immigrants. Then we can pass a law like Florida, to fill the empty jobs by making child labour great again. The bill even allows employers to schedule 14 and 15 year olds for overnight shifts. Just think how much the parents can save by not needing bedrooms for them!

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/25/business/florida-child-labor-laws/index.html

The number of child labor violations in Florida has nearly tripled in recent years, according to US Department of Labor statistics.

Which is always a sign of a progressive society. Though to its credit, Florida has some of the strictest child marriage laws in the States.

https://assets-global.website-files.com/5cd5801dfdf7e5927800fb7f/65a7ee9f79054428c2a14d52_Fact_Sheet_HB-49-updated_FINAL.pdf

user44221 · 27/03/2025 15:51

Farage. Such a great idea to get rid of immigrants. Then we can pass a law like Florida, to fill the empty jobs by making child labour great again. The bill even allows employers to schedule 14 and 15 year olds for overnight shifts. Just think how much the parents can save by not needing bedrooms for them!

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/25/business/florida-child-labor-laws/index.html

Florida debates lifting some child labor laws to fill jobs vacated by undocumented immigrants | CNN Business

Florida has been working for years to crack down on employers that hire undocumented immigrants. But that presented a problem for businesses in the state that are desperate for workers to fill low-wage and often undesirable jobs.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/25/business/florida-child-labor-laws/index.html

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