Why America voted for Trump, a simple, sane summary

As it’s on iPlayer it’s unlikely someone who is presumably in the US can access it. I have no time for Trump at all, and think a system that allows a convicted criminal to become president is broken.

On the other hand, his economic polices seem to appeal more to the average American and the markets than our PMs do to us and the stock markets, and my Sipp is up around £69k since he was elected, compared to down (albeit a lot less, as I’m deliberately underweight on UK stock) so it’s not all bad ;)

She had a Saul on the road to Tarsus conversion when Biden dropped out of the race and flipped on everything she ran on in 2019 - health care, fracking, expanding the Supreme Court, gun regulation, etc. She wanted to outlaw private medical insurance ffs.

No one believed the new positions were genuine.

But why do they think Trump will provide those things? He's been in power before and didn't do so then. He isn't really even claiming he'll put any of that in place either.
But separately shush with the gender thing. trump doesn't give a fuck about women and children's rights. The right wing anti trans movement is about conformity and gender roles and keeping women second class. It is not gender critical or about women's rights

I didn't mention sex once.

That you believe in biological sex doesn't make any difference to your fundamental belief that we should treat some men socially as women. That's batshit. It harms women.

You are arguing across multiple threads for the rights of biological males to usurp those of biological females on an unprovable notion of a man's idea of his own gender then. Fascinating.

@lifeturnsonadime

"Yes dear some people have been so brainwashed they believe that men can be women."

Is that what you think I believe?

We all know that people's sex is immutable. But we don't all accept that 'gender' is always synonymous with biological sex.

@LifeExperience

"The only ones Trump is planning to actively deport are the criminals"

Where did he say that?

@LifeExperience

'Much of it'?

How much?

www.factcheck.org/2023/10/bidens-border-wall-explained/

@LifeExperience

Have you ever spent time with someone with a dementia diagnosis?

Nobody with dementia could function at the level that Biden did in his state of the Nation address this year, or engage in high level diplomacy.

Biden has been confused, and has lost the thread of his speech. So has Trump. Trump repeatedly got confused about who he was standing against in the election - referring to Obama when he meant Biden. The difference between Trump and Biden when they have a 'senior moment' is that Trump just verbally rambles aimlessly on auto pilot and his fans don't care that he's talking absolute nonsense. Biden mumbles & stutters.

But if you're focusing on signs of actual dementia Trump's weird linguistic mistakes and actual delusions are more indicative of demential than Biden's mumbling.

This study about linguistic patterns indicative of the first signs of dementia in Reagan is interesting.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6922000/

Biden tore much of it down and then sued Texas when they started building their own wall. Biden lost in court and Texas is still building. The US-Mexico border is more than 3000 km. long.

The easiest way is to eliminate benefits for them, jail employers who hire them since it's already illegal to employ them and for the federal government to stop paying NGOs (I'm looking at you, Catholic Charities) to resettle them. They will self-deport, as they have done in the past.

The only ones Trump is planning to actively deport are the criminals.

Disinformation works.
Propaganda works.

Yes dear some people have been so brainwashed they believe that men can be women.

They are all strongly partisan democrat papers who told everyone Biden was just fine until he all but took a dump on the debate stage. After Biden was forced to drop out, they suddenly decided that Trump had dementia, too. The electorate responded with appropriate derision.

Disinformation works.

Propaganda works.

Demagoguery is hugely effective as a persuasion tool.

Targeting minorities works.

Look back over the past 100 years of political history:

Hitler
Mussolini
Putin
Berlusconi
Orban
Bolsannaro

Trump is one of these people.

The global crisis created by the pandemic has created opportunities for fascists everywhere.

"Teachers have groomed children here in the US. They put books about fisting into libraries of elementary schools."

lol.

You been on the 'mums for liberty' website 😂

You know what they also have in school libraries? A book which talks about Incest. Rape. Infanticide. Genocide. Torture. Sexual slavery.

It's called 'The Bible'.

He didn't. Check the numbers. They're still counting in the Dem run states, esp. California, but he is already over his 2020 numbers.

In terms of electoral movement, EVERY demographic moved right. No matter how you slice and dice the electorate, it moved right, decisively. Even AOC's district moved 7.8 % toward Trump. California moved Trump. Only Washington and Connecticut moved left. Black women moved right. Black men moved right. Hispanics moved right, gays moved right, single women moved right.

"Kamala Harris was a mediocre candidate without a clear set of policies of her own."

She had a clear set of policies which you obviously didn't read.

"He was talking about teachers grooming impressionable children into deciding they're trans, not that schools actually perform the surgery."

No - he talks about children having surgery at school.

Did you not watch the video?

He also talked about people 15 years down the line having regrets, suggesting he thinks that children were being coerced into surgery by schools.

And framing teachers as 'groomers' for using kids preferred pronouns. Ffs.

Apart from the obvious reasons for voting for Trump which many have set out whether you like them or not, Kamala Harris was a mediocre candidate without a clear set of policies of her own.

He was talking about teachers grooming impressionable children into deciding they're trans, not that schools actually perform the surgery. But of course the media took six words out of several minutes of context to twist his meaning.

Teachers have groomed children here in the US. They put books about fisting into libraries of elementary schools. The movement to trans vulnerable children was out of control, which is why Trump won suburban women, which should have been a natural constituency for Kamala. Don't mess with American moms.

The results paint a clear picture: Democrats were punished for inflation, misalignment on immigration and cultural issues, and Biden. The top three reasons not to vote for Harris were:

1. “Inflation was too high under the Biden-Harris Administration” (+24)
2. “Too many immigrants illegally crossed the border under the Biden-Harris Administration” (+23)
3. “Kamala Harris is focused more on cultural issues like transgender issues rather than helping the middle class” (+17).

blueprint2024.com/polling/why-trump-reasons-11-8/

@izimbra you can deny this all you like but you are wrong.

This is because it’s about how individuals see their own bit of the USA. Americans are very inward looking when it comes to voting. Foreign policy is of little concern. As it is here in many ways. Being told you are not as badly off as Europeans has no traction with Americans at all. They just know their food is costing more!

No, he did not. The leftist media, including the BBC and the Guardian, selectively edit and distort pretty much everything Trump says. He had just been to a medical research facility that was investigating new methods of disinfecting, and was referring to that. He NEVER used the word bleach, nor was he referring to bleach. He was referring to light. You have been propagandized, not informed, by your news sources.

These are all democratic talking points that didn't convince most voters. Biden changed the rules when he came into office and allowed 10 million immigrants to enter the country illegally. This has caused huge problems along the border and in major cities. Biden and Harris did nothing to help those areas and cities. They didn't try to do anything different until the end of 2023 when the polls showed the issue was going to hurt them in the election. That's when they tried to get a compromise bill passed.

Prices are about 20% higher than they were when Biden came into office, and higher still in key categories like housing. American voters don't care how that compares with inflation elsewhere. Harris campaigned on the message that the economy is fine. Lots of voters here feel differently.

You can argue that the voters are simply wrong about all of these issues. Harris still lost.

Because the factories to produce them here DO NOT YET EXIST due to over-regulation, which is exactly Trump's point.

Would you have voted for Bill Clinton for a second term after he put a cigar up a barely-legal intern's vagina? He was almost 50 and POTUS, she was 22 and living on her own for the first time in her life.