Women of MN - What do you like about Trump?

Oh come on. Trump did not stay within the boundaries of his powers of office or of the law last time. He committed multiple crimes while in office and has so far gotten away with it. So he will be even worse now and if he's charged, he'll just pardon himself. He has said that is what he will do.
He is one person, but he has the Republican party backing every single crazy thing he does.

Pour money into what? What are you referring to?

trump is just one person, it’s easier to deal with as he will have to operate within the boundaries and limitations of the power. If they vote for Harris, it’s a whole system they can’t fight. I think it’s crazy to continue to vote for democratic politicians, to pour tax payers hard earn money into things that don’t improve people’s lives. the situation must have been quite dire for the voters to react this way. I am glad I don’t live in the states.

Yeah, probably so in many cases, but that's crazy thinking. You don't vote in an evil man and his slavish henchmen to punish the Dems. They'll still have their donors and will regroup. So that will only be punishing people.

I think the voters just want them to loose, not necessarily they support trump himself.

I like his stance on immigration and his straight forwardness. The left has gone a bit loony in the past decade and right leaning candidates are appealing to me so they bring some normality back to the world. I'm very pro abortion and have had one myself and disagree with it being banned before 16 weeks but basing a vote around one issue like abortion is stupid to me.

To me, the chances of me needing an abortion to save my life is much lower than me being under threat from an illegal from a violent country, getting shanked by a junkie in a state where drugs are decriminalised or getting shot by a burglar or a mugger if I wasn't allowed to defend myself or having my business or car damaged by rioters which are all things that tend to come along with blue states.

Any evil or harm that would come to women due to an abortion ban if women voted in a party who say wanted a blanket ban on it would still probably be less overall than the harm that would come to us by the issues above so I'd be comfortable still supporting the anti abortion party despite not agreeing with the stance.

I think lots of women like myself want some normality and security vs the current feel good "let's save the world!" stance which makes everything uncertain and dangerous, and I think there's too much social pressure for more women to be loud and out about this stance hence the unexpected amount of women who voted for trump. You see it all of the time if someone says they support the "wrong" party, it's almost a taboo to say it outloud and I find it undemocratic.

Anti-abortions are in most cases the same people who think there should be no free healthcare, no welfare, no free schools - so, basically, they care so, so, sooooo much about baby's life that they dont give a shit about it after its born. Woman wanted an abortion as she is poor and already has too many kids? Who cares. Woman was raped - who cares. Girl is a teenager who cant look after the child - who cares. Woman is ill and the pregnancy is dangerous for both - who cares. Foetus is deformed and will die as soon as its born - who cares.

But once its out, its literally not their problem, and most of them would be only too happy to see it executed further down the line if the said former baby turns to the life of crime as a result of shit poor upbringing, no education and total lack of any meaningful opportunity in life.

Such lovely people, care so passionately about foetuses but dont give a fuck about women and their already living kids.

I neither smacked my children nor used the naughty step. Now all well adjusted young adults far away from criminality.

Deeply antisocial criminality will only be solved by addressing the reasons behind that behaviour. The death penalty isn’t a deterrant, it it was you wouldn’t actually need to use it. It’s just vengeful and abhorrent.

Completely agree. What they did to Bernie was unconscionable.
Extreme liberals is exactly what they are. They are the "woke" ones obsessed with identity politics. Leftists care more about economic equality, not identity. The Democratic eslablishment does almost nothing about economic equality. After all, their donors are big corporations and they care more about pleasing them than they do about people. For that reason thet deserve to lose, but not to a monster like Trump FFS, and the GOP, which is now just a support system for the whims and wants of a loopy despot.

Women are already dying. Maternal mortality is up 62% in those redneck forced birth states. Infant mortality is up 13%. But we know they don't care about actual born babies, so that means nothing to them. Women dying means nothing to them either, so no, they won't care about back alley abortion deaths.
They should hang their heads in shame for what utter frauds they are. It's really about punishing women for their sexual behaviour. It has nothing to do with caring about "unborn babies."

I don’t mean to be harsh, but can you read? I said clearly in my original post that my conscious would not allow me to vote for Trump, and while I feel similarly about Harris, I would be more likely to vote for her in a last minute change of heart as Trump to me is just too far out of the realm of acceptable to me.

If you are "pro-life" and want the state to control women's reproductive function you should only be too happy to pay higher tax to support children who end up in foster homes and who will need the state to look after them - and to make sure they grow up into adults who are not a burden on society. Unless you want to have tens of thousands of abandons ill kids dumped in orphanages and massive crime problem from gangs of feral street kids.

Edited: that is, after you pass the small issue of scores of young females dying as a result of backstreet abortions. Look to Romania for reference.

If they were left wing they wouldn't have gone out their way to stop Sanders getting the nomination in the past.

They're extreme liberal which is different.

I’m actually not surprised. It’s forced birth rather than pro life because those types don’t seem to give a damn once the baby is actually born.

Plus it’s punishing a woman for daring to have sex. Otherwise a foetus’ worth wouldn’t depend on how it was conceived.

The detail about schools - public schools in the US are locally funded in each School District, with some funding from state and federal government. Schools can and do bus children within Districts if individual schools are overcrowded. School Districts are obliged to accept and provide an appropriate education for every child whose parents register them. Local funding comes from property taxes.

Also, the detail about immigration - explain please the support for Trump in states where there are barely any immigrants or where immigrants find jobs and do not displace locals? Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, West Virginia, Maine, South Dakota, North Dakota, or states where immigrants themselves make up a large portion of the population - Florida, Texas...

Health services - what is that in the US context? There is private insurance that people entitled to work in the US get through work, private insurance bought under the terms of the ACA, and then there's Medicaid and Medicare, which are both government-provided healthcare benefits. Immigrants who do not have green cards are not entitled to healthcare on the public dime apart from maternity and baby and toddler healthcare services. Green card holders, who are entitled to work, are either employed or supported by a spouse, and either have health insurance provided by an employer or a spouse, have bought their own via the ACA, or are entitled to Medicaid (which is means tested) or Medicare (for those aged over 65). Healthcare providers are not creaking to meet need because of immigrants and displacing anyone's granny from her eye appointment.

And please explain why the states that supported Kamala Harris, and tend to support the Democratic candidate every time, are those where a huge number of immigrants end up - New York, Illinois, California.

Immigration in the US is an issue because of race. When Trump howls about "immigrants" he's talking in code and referring to brown and black people. This is the only aspect of US politics that has any similarity to the UK.

When a baby is aborted, it is killed and then delivered vaginally. I believe the baby should be delivered vaginally or by c-section without being killed first.

the anti-abortion is a sticking point in the election. however, it could also be used as a protection for women, by women. to get pregnant without a marriage is a sub-optimal position. most cases, women were coerced/bullied into the situation and then further down the line, realised how disadvantaged they have been made. hope this would encourage all women, young girls, to stand their own grounds and not to be submissive towards men, not to get pregnant when they don't want to. it's not like abortion doesn't harm women, it does, hugely, and many regret later on. obviously, the situations with rape, or medical conditions need to be clearly specified, to have an effective law.

I would prefer to deter illegal immigrants, reduce robberies and drugs, better economy, over just abortion choice issue. it's always possible to go abroad for abortion if desperate.

What’s interesting though is almost all of the women I saw posting about this were actually in favour of abortions for rape, incest and mother’s life in danger. They didn’t like it as ‘birth control’ or ‘inconvenience’. Now I feel like it should be allowed for inconvenience so I disagree with banning it before 16 weeks. However, most of the more extreme examples I agree with.

you can believe what you like, if it makes you feel better.

A wedding ring on a mother’s finger doesn’t make her any better a mother.

Protected from what, or who?