Women of MN - What do you like about Trump?

I like his total support of US manufacturing.

"We need it. We are much more violent than East Asia or Europe."

Why do you think the USA is so violent?

Why do you think it has 5 x the murder rate of the UK?

@Deja321 many countries including England have suffered cost of living crisis in the last few years. If Trump had been in office in the last few years I’m sure costs would still have risen

"I like that no new wars started when he was president"

From foreignpolicy.com

"Let’s review the record. Despite inveighing against “endless wars,” Trump massively escalated the country’s existing wars in multiple theaters, leadingg to skyrocketing casualties. In Afghanistan, he substantially upped the amount of airstrikes, leadingg to a 330 percent increase in civilian deaths. In Yemen, he escalatedd both U.S. counterterrorism activities and supportt for the devastating Saudi-led war against the Houthis. According to the United Kingdom’s Bureau of Investigative Journalismm_, there were 2,243 drone strikes in just the first two years of Trump’s presidency, compared with 1,878 in the entire eight years of the Obama administration."

"and alot of Americans say they were financially better off under Trump".

Prices of food and basic goods were significantly cheaper across the developed world before the pandemic, which caused rocketing inflation in the US and the Eurozone.

"He seemed to have good relationships with other world leaders."

Lol - dictators love him, because he's easily flattered and manipulated.

The USA already has the biggest prison population in the developed world

We need it. We are much more violent than East Asia or Europe.

And about five times the violent crime rate of Norway, which has a famously 'soft' penal system

Probably because the Norwegian prison system is full of Norwegians LMAO. Are you fucking kidding me?

It’s also amazing that people who denigrate America as an awful violent place will, at the same time, pull this ‘well ackshully, it’s not as violent as you think!’ bullshit.

It’s violent! We all know it! And we want to fucking fix that.

How many people do you want to jail, and for how long?

The USA already has the biggest prison population in the developed world.

And about five times the violent crime rate of Norway, which has a famously 'soft' penal system.

I think he's brave to keep going with the media and establishment going after him. I would have given up.
I like that no new wars started when he was president and alot of Americans say they were financially better off under Trump. He seemed to have good relationships with other world leaders.

Mussolini was an absolute hoot apparently.

We actually don’t have to live with crime you know. We can just jail violent people. I don’t want to have to be ‘street smart’. I want to walk in American cities and not worry about getting raped and murdered. I want what European cities (used to) have.

Why should I live in fear? I want violent men to live in fear.

BTW - it's only 'slander' if it's not true.

I like him with a sanitary towel on his head after a staged 'assassination attempt'

What has he done which makes you think he’s brave? What did he do well last time? How has he demonstrated good leadership?

"I think he's a strong person to still be standing with the relentless slander and abuse thrown at him. "

He's an abject narcissist who describes his political adversaries as 'lunatics' 'mentally impaired' and 'evil'.

He's surrounded by flunkies and arse lickers who are telling him he's God's anointed saviour.

@Deja321 do you think it is funny how he treats women?

I'm not American so didn't vote but i like Trump. I think he's really funny. I think he's brave. He says what he thinks. I believe he did a good job last time.
I think he's a strong person to still be standing with the relentless slander and abuse thrown at him. He seems unfazed so he's either very resilient or just good at not showing his stress. I think he's a good leader and loves his country.
Doesn't mean I agree with everything he says but I don't trust the other politicians.

BTW - America's incredibly punitive penal system is highly ineffectual at deterring crime or protecting people from violence.

Never the less - violent crime has fallen significantly from a peak in the late 1990's.

You wouldn't know this from listening to Trump, but then that's what fascist leaders do. Ignore the evidence and talk ceaselessly about violent crime - preferably using this to stir up fear and hatred of a minority group.

"I believe it should also apply to other forms of anti-social behaviour that risk the lives of other people, like attempted murder, rape, serious assaults, violent robberies."

There were 1.2 million violent crimes in the USA last year.

You want mass killings by the state?

What do you suggest - gassing?

Look back through history.

Fascist and far right regimes have always been a response to rapid social change and a feeling of dislocation.

What's really worrying is that you can't see the fact that Trump's GOP is a far right party.

Past statistics don’t sway me, which all took place in the days before widespread camera phones and security cam footage. It’s a different world now.

Sadly we have plenty of people commit murder blatantly on camera, or in broad daylight. Absolutely no question that they pulled the trigger or knifed someone.

I used to be anti death penalty until I heard the case where a woman shot a Denny’s waiter in the face for getting her order wrong.

What is served by jailing the kind of person who shoots a waiter for getting her order wrong? And then there are so many like this, just senselessly kill in public, in front of other people!

So if we just apply death penalty for those who commit crimes with security cam footage and witnesses? That’s still a lot of killers that can safely be put away tbh.

I don’t think it will be any sort of deterrence, because the people who commit crimes like this can’t even fucking think ten minutes ahead, much less understand consequences. They get angry and want to hurt you. Such people do not belong in society.

It's quite clear why Trump won but it is deeply worrying that those on the left still can't see it in order to change.

Sad but true @izimbra

@DrBlackbird

It doesn't bother them.

This is the party that wants to ban any mention of structural racism from public discourse.

They don't care about the human rights of felons, except their 'Felon in Chief' Trump.

@1dayatatime

that was epic. Thank you!

Despite the following?

More black men are given the death sentence than white men for similar crimes.
Some 4% of those on death row are estimated to be innocent.
There are clear historical cases of innocent men being executed due to faulty or corrupt police investigations with the national Registry of Exonerations identifying more than 1,000 people who have been exonerated for murder in the United States since 1989.

There are more cases where there are defendants who committed the crime charged but with significant mitigating or extenuating circumstances. There are defendants who committed the crime, but they had never done anything like this before; they lost control in a trying situation. Men and women with severe learning disabilities have been executed. Bad cops, bad lawyers, bad prosecutors all contribute to the problem.

Plus, decades of studies on death-qualified juries; race, gender, and immigration-status bias among jurors; law enforcement and prosecutorial misconduct; weak forensic science and poor representation at trial all suggest that a fair capital sentence is virtually impossible.

Not to mention that executing people does nothing as a deterrent. It’s plain old biblical eye for an eye. Including those who are innocent.

None of that bothers you?