Women of MN - What do you like about Trump?

Hes funny.

I like he puts his country and its citizens first , we here are supposed to be embarrassed and ashamed of being British .

Oh wow. Eyeopener. Both as a second gen immigrant and a staunch pro choicer.

I suspect it's more to do with that phrase about keeping women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.

If you think he's not telling people what they want to hear and boldly shooting from the lip, you need to do a little research on his core message and the core audience that he has carefully cultivated for years.

This is the man who proclaimed his love for the poorly educated.

Did you? I haven't found anything like that so if you have a link I would be very interested.

You are wrong in your blithe assumptions about the legality of various aspects of care for a naturally occurring miscarriage.

Look into the case of a dentist who died of sepsis in Galway University Hospital in Ireland because the law at that time banned abortion. Doctors' hands were tied by the law, and they will be tied in the US states where voters have voted for bans.

I suggest you do a lot more research on the issues that can come up when pregnancy runs into serious medical danger naturally and before viability. Miscarriages are not always clear-cut events. Miscarriages can involve the death of one twin and jeopardy of the life of another. Miscarriages can be long drawn out with the risk of sepsis, as seen in the Galway case. It is not a simple "labour can be induced" issue.

And fwiw, Trump is not against abortion. His policy is that it should be decided by the states individually.

I like that he is anti-abortion

He called for the death penalty for THE CENTRAL PARK 5 innocent Black/Latino boys, who where later exonerated after years in prison! Till this day trump has refused to apologise!

Well I'm British and not American so what I think doesn't really matter.

But if I had to pick something I would say that I admire how open he is. I mean you never really know what's going to come out of his mouth and he really doesn't care who he offends. I believe that most people and politicians have quite a few unpopular opinions but they would never dare to voice them. They just hide it and tell people what they want to hear. So most of us don't trust a single word they say. Trump is different.

Anti abortion? Don’t make me laugh. The only way that twat is anti abortion in as yet another way to control women. He couldn’t give a shiny shit about killing babies and anyone who thinks that’s even crossed his mind for one second is an idiot. I’m sure if one of his many mistresses had needed a convenient abortion he’d not have thought twice about the “precious life” 🙄.

You don’t know how you feel about the death penalty for shoplifting?

He has a lovely colour to his cheeks….

I’m also interested in this.

Is it to save children from school shooters, whose right to bear arms is so robustly defended by the Republicans in the first place?

I think what posters like that reminds us, is that more people than we like to admit are actually not very bright. Throw in poor education, extreme politics and views given oxygen on social media, financial pressures, and just a generally unstable world and there you have it - enough people believing and perpetuating and voting for this shit. It's utterly depressing.

Except that isn't how the death penalty works, is it?

If it had any effect at all on criminality, the US would be a veritable paradise where nobody would ever be shot, raped, or robbed.

For me, you can't be pro life and also support the death penalty, and you can't support the untrammeled right to own and bear arms.

All the death penalty achieves is the brutalism of the public mind and the cheapening of human life. It goes completely against the human dignity basis of the pro life philosophy.

This is aside altogether from the massive issues around access to legal representation and institutional bias that is based on historical attitudes to race.

How would home schooling as a rule rather than exception work when in the majority of families parents go to work - earn money, have a career etc

This is what the abortion ban means in practice. A grieving husband and a motherless child.

www.propublica.org/article/josseli-barnica-death-miscarriage-texas-abortion-ban

If you break down the results, it looks as if it was the support of younger (and possibly younger white) men that swung it in the key states.

I am in the US and personally would never have voted for him, even if I were a citizen, but I am GC and hope he restores the word sex and tosses out the word gender in Title IX.

Unfortunately there are no circumstances in which I can be okay with a baby being killed even where the mother’s life is in danger.

Stunned. A cluster of cells matters more than a woman's life. @batt3nb3rg

These attitudes are so deeply disturbing.

I am saddened by women feeling this way.

I am relieved I live in Europe with my daughters.

Absolutely nothing. He has no redeeming qualities either political or personal.
If I was american I would be applying for asylum in the UK as it is increasingly unsafe for anybody who hasn’t drunk the trump koolaid.
God help those who tried to hold him to account for his crimes.

Shocking hey? I read those posts with my jaw on the floor.

@batt3nb3rg could you quote where Trump says he is anti abortion? I don't think he has explicitly said anything one way or the other. Melania, however, has explicitly said she supports a woman's right to choose. It seems an odd issue for you to mention as a reason to support Trump.

None of that explains a vote for Trump though. Abstention, spoiling your ballot or voting for the Greens, maybe.

I héard him say that women who have an abortion should be punished. That doesn't sounf pro abortion to me.

Yeah, he wants it to be available to anyone he has accidentally impregnated but couldn’t care less about the little people.

I suspect he doesn’t even understand that his SC judges’ actions have also made it dangerous for women to have a miscarriage, and for medics to help them.