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Women of MN - What do you like about Trump?

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ShinyTime · 06/11/2024 09:37

He couldn’t have been voted in without the support of women. As a non-Trump fan myself, I’m wondering what is it you like about him? This applies to non-US voters who favour him and would vote for him if possible.

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HecatesBees · 06/11/2024 17:52

LettuceSpray · 06/11/2024 16:17

@batt3nb3rg could you quote where Trump says he is anti abortion? I don't think he has explicitly said anything one way or the other. Melania, however, has explicitly said she supports a woman's right to choose. It seems an odd issue for you to mention as a reason to support Trump.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/live-update/election-news-2024/where-trump-stands-on-abortion

Nov 5, 2024 9:05 PM EST
Where Trump stands on abortion
By Erica R. Hendry
During his 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump said “you have to ban” abortion and advocated for “some form of punishment” for women who get illegal abortions. A major part of his campaign platform in 2016 was to appoint Supreme Court justices to overturn Roe, which became reality in 2022.
In 2024, Trump has said in interviews that states with abortion bans have a right to monitor pregnancies and prosecute violations. The former president is also open to restricting access to abortion pills, like mifepristone.
Trump has pledged to:
Veto a 15-week national abortion ban, which multiple members of his party and the anti-abortion movement support.
Allow states to restrict abortion access.

Where Harris and Trump stand on abortion access and reproductive rights

Two years ago, the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade made abortion access a top political issue across America. In the race for the White House, Laura Barrón-López has been following both candidates' positions on reproductive rights.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/where-harris-and-trump-stand-on-abortion-access-and-reproductive-rights

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 06/11/2024 17:51

Well, this is depressing as hell. #slitswriststhatwomensupportembryosratherthanexistingwomen

soupfiend · 06/11/2024 17:50

Whats wrong with immigration?

30percent · 06/11/2024 17:50

I like that he'd be a lot tougher on immigration than the democrats are.

I'm not a massive fan of him though he acts like a complete clown sometimes haha

FrostFlowers2025 · 06/11/2024 17:48

What's to like?

He has no policies. He doesn't care about anyone or anything, except himself. His so called opinions are all fluff, recommended by his advisers so he would have something to say when on stage. Even then he can barely get the words out and can't remember what he was supposed to talk about, even when asked a direct question.

The reason "his opinions" are not at the tip of his tongue is because they are not at the forefront of his mind. With him what you see/hear is what you get, a head full of saw dust. Those who can't see it are willfully ignorant.

Trump is a true grandiose narcissist. The only reason he even went to that McDonald's kitchen is because he could not handle that Harris was getting props for having worked at a McDonalds once.

Did people forget that he literally shoved people out of the way for foto ops? Or that he had the secret service do it for him?

HecatesBees · 06/11/2024 17:46

batt3nb3rg · 06/11/2024 14:25

No, I’m obviously not okay with that, but I don’t see that that is an inevitable consequence of abortion not being available, as care for a naturally occurring miscarriage, or spontaneous abortion, is not the same as a medically induced abortion. Unfortunately there are no circumstances in which I can be okay with a baby being killed even where the mother’s life is in danger. If a woman will die or be seriously harmed if she remains pregnant, labour should be induced, the baby delivered, and given every chance to survive if past viability. If the baby was killed first, it would still need to be delivered, whether vaginally or by c-section.

As to your other points - I did already say I disagree with Trump. The post asked for what women like about him, so I listed everything that I see as a positive and then concluded I wouldn’t vote for him because his headlining economic policy is lunacy.

Unfortunately there are no circumstances in which I can be okay with a baby being killed even where the mother’s life is in danger. If a woman will die or be seriously harmed if she remains pregnant, labour should be induced, the baby delivered, and given every chance to survive if past viability. If the baby was killed first, it would still need to be delivered, whether vaginally or by c-section.

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crumblingschools · 06/11/2024 17:45

There is nothing in Trump that I like

crumblingschools · 06/11/2024 17:44

@batt3nb3rg why homeschooling the norm? Who do you expect to do that?

dollybird · 06/11/2024 17:44

IMustDoMoreExercise · 06/11/2024 17:39

I don't think may people (men or women) like Trump, they had to vote for him because they did not like some of the extreme left views of the Democrats.

I don't think the Dems are anything like extreme left. More, a bit left of the Republicans.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 06/11/2024 17:39

I don't think may people (men or women) like Trump, they had to vote for him because they did not like some of the extreme left views of the Democrats.

mathanxiety · 06/11/2024 17:39

SnakesAndArrows · 06/11/2024 17:17

He doesn’t care about abortion enough to want it to be legal or illegal, because it doesn’t affect him personally. And possibly because he doesn’t think the law applies to him. Which perhaps now it doesn’t.

But he does want women to be punished for having an abortion, whether it’s legal or not. Because he doesn’t care about the law, or women.

Excellent comment.

He appeals strongly to people who don't care about women and who believe the law is only there to hold them back.

mathanxiety · 06/11/2024 17:33

Sethera · 06/11/2024 17:08

It baffles me that a criminal awaiting sentencing can be elected as president of the USA.

I can't claim knowledge of all his policies but I disagree with the headline ones, anti-abortion, death penalty, defence.

They are not really his policies. They are the hooks dangled in front of the electorate.

His policy is as he stated in his victory speech - to remake the federal government.

The Health and Human Services dept and its agencies - the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the National Institutes of Health, and the Food and Drug Administration - are all in the crosshairs, as is the US Dept of Agriculture, which is the agency running food stamps and school meals. The ACA is in grave danger - affordable healthcare for millions is on the line.

The creeping influence - the power grab - of Elon Musk is something everyone should be terrified of. He is the real winner of this election, and has been very vocal about dismantling the federal workforce and the agencies, enriching himself beyond imagination, and Trump has welcomed him into the centre of the fold.

GrammarTeacher · 06/11/2024 17:30

Frowningprovidence · 06/11/2024 17:24

I'm British not American and I don't really have a full view of American politics.

I also agree young men turned out in record numbers and swing the vote, but some women must support him.

Trying to find positives

Last time he was in power a lot of wars that were brewing didn't happen and I didn't like the way Biden pulled out of Afghanistan.

I also felt that all that crap about Biden being fine health wise would have made my distrustful of that party.

My understanding is trumps ideas on immigration and taxation are very popular with working poor.

I dont think I would have voted for him as lots of his policies don't chime with my world view

It's also fair that just because I think abortion is a women's rights issue, plenty of women in the states are religious. I mean there's all those amish, Mormons and lots more catholics than England.

The withdrawal from Afghanistan and how it was handled actually lies at the feet of both Republicans and Democrats.

So not just Biden. Trump wasn't a great peacemaker by any stretch of the imagination.

Thefaceofboe · 06/11/2024 17:30

LeoOakley · 06/11/2024 16:25

Unfortunately there are no circumstances in which I can be okay with a baby being killed even where the mother’s life is in danger.

Stunned. A cluster of cells matters more than a woman's life. @batt3nb3rg

These attitudes are so deeply disturbing.

I am saddened by women feeling this way.

I am relieved I live in Europe with my daughters.

Me too. How utterly grim to think this way and admit it

ThisZippyDenimGoose · 06/11/2024 17:29

I personally think people have had enough of identity politics and just want politicians to get on with dealing with the very real life problems in front of us and this might be a bit of wake up call.

Abortion is a very important subject for women of childbearing age but the people it doesn’t directly affect are most probably more invested in things like the economy and fuel prices etc.

fashionqueen0123 · 06/11/2024 17:26

batt3nb3rg · 06/11/2024 14:25

No, I’m obviously not okay with that, but I don’t see that that is an inevitable consequence of abortion not being available, as care for a naturally occurring miscarriage, or spontaneous abortion, is not the same as a medically induced abortion. Unfortunately there are no circumstances in which I can be okay with a baby being killed even where the mother’s life is in danger. If a woman will die or be seriously harmed if she remains pregnant, labour should be induced, the baby delivered, and given every chance to survive if past viability. If the baby was killed first, it would still need to be delivered, whether vaginally or by c-section.

As to your other points - I did already say I disagree with Trump. The post asked for what women like about him, so I listed everything that I see as a positive and then concluded I wouldn’t vote for him because his headlining economic policy is lunacy.

You must know it’s happened already? One mother died with a wanted pregnancy.

another young woman visited three hospitals who wouldn’t touch her as the fetus had a heartbeat. She died of sepsis.

Why would you induce birth with a baby who is before viability! They can’t live!

alexismul · 06/11/2024 17:25

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Frowningprovidence · 06/11/2024 17:24

I'm British not American and I don't really have a full view of American politics.

I also agree young men turned out in record numbers and swing the vote, but some women must support him.

Trying to find positives

Last time he was in power a lot of wars that were brewing didn't happen and I didn't like the way Biden pulled out of Afghanistan.

I also felt that all that crap about Biden being fine health wise would have made my distrustful of that party.

My understanding is trumps ideas on immigration and taxation are very popular with working poor.

I dont think I would have voted for him as lots of his policies don't chime with my world view

It's also fair that just because I think abortion is a women's rights issue, plenty of women in the states are religious. I mean there's all those amish, Mormons and lots more catholics than England.

soupfiend · 06/11/2024 17:24

Icanttakethisanymore · 06/11/2024 17:15

Trying to understand why approximately 70m people voted for him is not normalising anything. You might think he's a piece of shit, I might agree but he has been elected president of the most powerful country in the world (for the second time), he won the electoral college and the popular vote. If you are not curious how he managed to do it then more fool you.

I thought that was China

LuluBlakey1 · 06/11/2024 17:23

ShinyTime · 06/11/2024 09:37

He couldn’t have been voted in without the support of women. As a non-Trump fan myself, I’m wondering what is it you like about him? This applies to non-US voters who favour him and would vote for him if possible.

Nothing, absolutely nothing. I would never have voted for him.

Mulhollandmagoo · 06/11/2024 17:23

LeoOakley · 06/11/2024 16:25

Unfortunately there are no circumstances in which I can be okay with a baby being killed even where the mother’s life is in danger.

Stunned. A cluster of cells matters more than a woman's life. @batt3nb3rg

These attitudes are so deeply disturbing.

I am saddened by women feeling this way.

I am relieved I live in Europe with my daughters.

Couldn't agree more!!! The irony of these people to refer to themselves as 'pro-life' when they're happy for a grown adults woman to lose her life is baffling to me 🤯

It's pro-control!

hihelenhi · 06/11/2024 17:22

Literally nothing. Horrible man.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 06/11/2024 17:22

Homeschooling as a rule? Why?

I guess it's one way to keep women at home 🙄

soupfiend · 06/11/2024 17:22

Ive only read the first page of this rather shocking thread

I have no idea why we align ourselves, or try to, socially, culturally, politically sometimes with this banana republic in all but name

The way people think and frame the world over there is so far removed from what I see as British values that I have no idea why we think we have or should have a special relatinship with them (which I know was all spin anyway)

Its as bizarre as if we kept hearing, promoting, simulating Russian political culture and current affairs. I see america as alien to me as somewhere like that.

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