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Women of MN - What do you like about Trump?

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ShinyTime · 06/11/2024 09:37

He couldn’t have been voted in without the support of women. As a non-Trump fan myself, I’m wondering what is it you like about him? This applies to non-US voters who favour him and would vote for him if possible.

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spanieleyes22 · 06/11/2024 18:19

Zonder · 06/11/2024 16:06

I like that he is anti-abortion

I'm puzzled by this. I've never heard him say he is anti abortion and in fact recently when someone tried to get him to explicitly say this he wouldn't be drawn.

I can't imagine he is any abortion. In all his years of being a womanizer and having affairs I'm sure there have been some unwanted pregnancies? I've never heard him say he is anti abortion. He sucks up the far right and people who object for religious reasons as it gets him votes. As for his own moral compass I think he has shown he doesn't have one!

MrsJoanDanvers · 06/11/2024 18:18

If only the pro lifers were as vocal annd campaigned as hard about the babies already here.

spanieleyes22 · 06/11/2024 18:17

I don't understand how a woman could vote for a man who is openly misogynistic and openly admits to harassing and assaulting women. By voting him in it has shown what American people really believe in and I find it incredibly sad.

User135644 · 06/11/2024 18:15

30percent · 06/11/2024 18:09

No thanks I've wasted enough time on previous threads about this, forgot what an echo chamber Mumsnet was. All Ill say is most people on this site have a lot more money than the average person and can afford to live in expensive areas that are completely untroubled by any of the issues with mass immigration, then yall call anyone with a different opinion racists.

This is one of the reasons people vote for people like trump btw

Mumsnet is part of the liberal elite.

Full of the 6 figure salary set who think they know better than the plebs.

ginasevern · 06/11/2024 18:13

I like Trump because he said if you grab a woman by the pussy you can do anything. What a guy! Can't imagine for the life of me why any woman wouldn't find him irresistible.

User135644 · 06/11/2024 18:13

He's not a democrat. People are tired of liberals

Frowningprovidence · 06/11/2024 18:12

The thing is there's no point drilling down if people are right about why they like trump as most people don't think that deeply. If they are concerned about illegal immigration and somone says they will be tough on illegal immigration that satisfy's a lot of people.

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 06/11/2024 18:12

Absolutely nothing.
Even if he is "anti trans" and maybe has a few ideas that arent dreadful, that doesnt negate all the disastrous things hes said over the years and will do so in future. Or his awful policies. Hes a terrible excuse for a human being.

Dweebie · 06/11/2024 18:11

30percent · 06/11/2024 18:09

No thanks I've wasted enough time on previous threads about this, forgot what an echo chamber Mumsnet was. All Ill say is most people on this site have a lot more money than the average person and can afford to live in expensive areas that are completely untroubled by any of the issues with mass immigration, then yall call anyone with a different opinion racists.

This is one of the reasons people vote for people like trump btw

I agree we should be able to talk about immigration. However Biden had a tough policy proposal on immigration which was voted down by the republicans.

XChrome · 06/11/2024 18:10

frostyfingers · 06/11/2024 17:57

I think perhaps we should turn this into "why did Kamala Harris not win?". What was so bad about her policies that people voted for Trump instead? To me as an outsider nothing on earth would persuade me to vote for him, but there must be something about her/her party that put people off.

No, it really isn't that, or at least, it's a minor factor. The truth is that they're irrational. People shy away from that, they don't want to face how fucked up America is. They want to presume Trump voters had good reasons. They didn't. It's completely emotional and based on fantasy. They want a magical strongman to fix everything because then they can abdicate all responsibility. They want a daddy. It's the same reason Putin is inexplicably popular in Russia. That's the brutal truth. People are irrational.

Blueeyedmale · 06/11/2024 18:10

His behaviour towards women is awful the comments he's made about his own daughter is sickening enough,the affairs, comments on grabbing women by the private parts disgusting.

A lot of comments here about anti abortion sadly growing up I'm really sad to say I held very strong views on abortion both my parents had strict catholic upbringings so it was drummed into me every day that any women who murdered a child was wicked beyond evil.

However when old enough I educated myself of facts rather than opinion.and ultimately it's a women's choice what she chooses to do with her body not the government or any lawmaker.

But back to trump this is not a good day for democracy I don't think it's good for women but sadly 51 per cent of Americans disagree with me

Dweebie · 06/11/2024 18:09

Very difficult to understand why such an extreme figure could get so much of the vote, I would’ve predicted his natural ceiling of support to be much lower. I’m also very worried about Musk and I think we should ban twitter in the UK.

30percent · 06/11/2024 18:09

soupfiend · 06/11/2024 17:50

Whats wrong with immigration?

No thanks I've wasted enough time on previous threads about this, forgot what an echo chamber Mumsnet was. All Ill say is most people on this site have a lot more money than the average person and can afford to live in expensive areas that are completely untroubled by any of the issues with mass immigration, then yall call anyone with a different opinion racists.

This is one of the reasons people vote for people like trump btw

Nohugspleaseandthankyou · 06/11/2024 18:07

batt3nb3rg · 06/11/2024 14:25

No, I’m obviously not okay with that, but I don’t see that that is an inevitable consequence of abortion not being available, as care for a naturally occurring miscarriage, or spontaneous abortion, is not the same as a medically induced abortion. Unfortunately there are no circumstances in which I can be okay with a baby being killed even where the mother’s life is in danger. If a woman will die or be seriously harmed if she remains pregnant, labour should be induced, the baby delivered, and given every chance to survive if past viability. If the baby was killed first, it would still need to be delivered, whether vaginally or by c-section.

As to your other points - I did already say I disagree with Trump. The post asked for what women like about him, so I listed everything that I see as a positive and then concluded I wouldn’t vote for him because his headlining economic policy is lunacy.

About the abortion not even in cases of danger to mums life - why?
What do you win by having both die?

BIossomtoes · 06/11/2024 18:04

ThisZippyDenimGoose · 06/11/2024 17:29

I personally think people have had enough of identity politics and just want politicians to get on with dealing with the very real life problems in front of us and this might be a bit of wake up call.

Abortion is a very important subject for women of childbearing age but the people it doesn’t directly affect are most probably more invested in things like the economy and fuel prices etc.

It’s not just women of childbearing age, it’s women of all ages. As a second wave feminist who was so, so pleased when it was decriminalised here when I was a teenager, I’ve always seen a woman’s right to choose to be as fundamental to women’s rights as equal pay or maternity rights. I was appalled when Roe v Wade was overturned, it’s a tragedy for American women and a victory for misogyny.

crumblingschools · 06/11/2024 18:03

Aren’t most people in America immigrants?

XChrome · 06/11/2024 18:02

Simonjt · 06/11/2024 17:09

Thats the point, remember women aren’t people, they are merely machines to raise children and to be raped at their husbands will.

Yep. Wanting the death penalty for rapists (and possibly shoplifters) but being happy that a rapist is President exemplifies the batshittery and hypocrisy of these people. They think they are tough on crime, yet they elect a criminal with multiple indictments for serious crimes.
Maternal mortality up 62% in anti-abortion states and infant mortality is up 13%. They have no problem with killing women and children. They don't care in the least.
People like this are their own karma though. They have to live inside the screaming void of their heads, which is a terrible fate indeed.

Lentilweaver · 06/11/2024 18:01

mathanxiety · 06/11/2024 17:59

I'm not sure what "tougher on immigration" would mean. Do you think he has any specific ideas?

Yes. Lock up the dogs and cats.
While he sells the country to Musk ( also an immigrant).

mathanxiety · 06/11/2024 17:59

30percent · 06/11/2024 17:50

I like that he'd be a lot tougher on immigration than the democrats are.

I'm not a massive fan of him though he acts like a complete clown sometimes haha

I'm not sure what "tougher on immigration" would mean. Do you think he has any specific ideas?

frostyfingers · 06/11/2024 17:57

I think perhaps we should turn this into "why did Kamala Harris not win?". What was so bad about her policies that people voted for Trump instead? To me as an outsider nothing on earth would persuade me to vote for him, but there must be something about her/her party that put people off.

Frowningprovidence · 06/11/2024 17:56

mathanxiety · 06/11/2024 17:52

It's protestant fundamentalists who are more likely to be anti abortion. There are very few Amish. Catholics are quite divided on abortion. The LDS church opposes abortion but with exceptions for deformity, life of mother in danger, rape, and incest.

Fair enough.

What I am suggesting is there are more actively religious people than we seem to have in England so this will be influencing thier voting more than it might here.

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 06/11/2024 17:53

Do you like that Trump is a racist or did I mean rapist?

Zonder · 06/11/2024 17:53

XChrome · 06/11/2024 17:10

Thanks although that's just saying IF they become illegal. It's not saying he himself is anti abortion. I'm just trying to work out why so many fundamental Christians think he's the Christian ticket and it always seems to come down to abortion and not anything to do with Jesus.

mathanxiety · 06/11/2024 17:52

Frowningprovidence · 06/11/2024 17:24

I'm British not American and I don't really have a full view of American politics.

I also agree young men turned out in record numbers and swing the vote, but some women must support him.

Trying to find positives

Last time he was in power a lot of wars that were brewing didn't happen and I didn't like the way Biden pulled out of Afghanistan.

I also felt that all that crap about Biden being fine health wise would have made my distrustful of that party.

My understanding is trumps ideas on immigration and taxation are very popular with working poor.

I dont think I would have voted for him as lots of his policies don't chime with my world view

It's also fair that just because I think abortion is a women's rights issue, plenty of women in the states are religious. I mean there's all those amish, Mormons and lots more catholics than England.

It's protestant fundamentalists who are more likely to be anti abortion. There are very few Amish. Catholics are quite divided on abortion. The LDS church opposes abortion but with exceptions for deformity, life of mother in danger, rape, and incest.