Women of MN - What do you like about Trump?

Nothing.

Why are you pro death penalty, if I may ask?

Sorry, what do you mean by a 'gay book'? A book w a character who incidentally had 2 mums or 2 dads?

Or something talking about sexuality? That is wrong obvs

Interesting. I appreciate that they see the foetus the same as a full grown baby, even less than one week in. But don't they have ANY sympathy, at least, for the bodily violation of going through labour and pregnancy when you don't want that? Let alone the bodily violation that a rape victim who did not want to carry a pregnancy to term would feel, in cases of rape?

What are you talking about? The people promoting it have closed ties to Trump and his campaign, and some will likely be in his cabinet.

Trump's campaign team literally said their plans align with that of Trump's plans

Again, nobody elected them and nobody campaigned on national abortion bans or restricting access to contraceptives.

Nobody is going to write or promote any such law. But go ahead and keep stuffing that straw man.

Nearly two-thirds of the authors and editors of Project 2025 served in the previous Trump administration.

The Washington Post reported on regular communication between Project 2025 and Trump campaign advisers. In April 2024, Project 2025 senior advisor John McEntee said that they and the Trump campaign planned to "integrate a lot of our work".

Keep your head in the sand if you want.

They are a think tank, nobody elected them at all. Nobody who was elected into federal office has mentioned an abortion ban, definitely NEVER said anything about banning Plan B or contraception.

Do you like making up straw men in your spare time?

I never said Trump said those things. The Heritage Foundation is saying those things, they are the ones who will try to introduce them.
I'm saying Trump won't care or try to stop them.

So … he’s only saying it inside your head. Ok.

These are all stated aims of Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation and they absolutely will try to put them in place. Trump won't care, he just wants to be President.

Did you believe Kavanaugh when he said Roe v Wade was settled precedent right before he voted it down?

Christian Nationalism is the real agenda for the next 4 years. Trump is just the means to the end.

Enjoy your national abortion ban, morning after pill ban, and restricted access to contraceptives

Please show Trump promoting any of those positions. He had not.

He ruled out a national abortion ban, which in fact cost him votes among the Christian right.

Please. I’m begging you to find anything that Trump has said that supports what you are saying here. Because I think you’ll find that you can’t …

Enjoy your national abortion ban, morning after pill ban, and restricted access to contraceptives.

'your body, my choice' is a slogan you'll be seeing a lot more of.

I think younger conservatives are embracing abortion, so we will end up being pro-choice, pro-gun and pro death penalty. Harsh but fair. It seems a very American stance tbh

They're absolute weirdos. They usually believe in the death penalty, women and children dying through forced birth and love guns even though they kill tens of thousands of people including children.

Exactly so. It's why I call them forced birthers. It's literally what they are.

Well, if you're going to outright lie and claim I said things I never actually said, it shows you either aren't an honest, ethical person or are deluded. Not meaning to be rude, it's just that in that case I don't see the point in conversing with you further.

It doesn't depend on the country. There are clear ideological definitions.

I know it's wiki but this might help:

Generally, the left wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism" while the right wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism".

Political scientists and other analysts usually regard the left as including anarchists, communists, socialists, democratic socialists, social democrats, left-libertarians, progressives, and social liberals. Movements for racial equality,as well as trade unionism, have also been associated with the left.

Political scientists and other analysts usually regard the right as including conservatives (among whom there are many strains, including traditionalist conservatism, libertarian conservatism, neoconservatism, and ultraconservatism right-libertarians, anarcho-capitalists, monarchists, fascists, and reactionaries.

@izimbra

"There isn't really a 'left' in the US.

The Democrats are a centrist party.

The Trumplicans are far right"

By UK or European standards you are correct.

But by US standards the Democrats are see as "far left " and the Republicans seen as simply "right wing ".

In my the same way as if a socialist party such as the Labour Party or Democrats were ever allowed to exist in say communist Cuba then they would be viewed as far right.

It depends on the country.

No, I've completely engaged. I've used the term trans women, I acknowledge they exist and have the right to live in a way that feels most authentic to them in terms of dress and presentation, they have the same rights as you and I. Trans identifying man is the correct terminology. You can’t change sex.

You won't answer any simple questions on why I have to adhere to an ideology I don't believe in, why men should be allowed to compete in women's sports and be allowed in their single sex spaces? Why is their feelings more important because they have e a 'gender identify that doesn't align with their sex'. I don't believe in gender ideology that's why I've '.

Shouting down people as 'transphobes' does you no good at all when you've been told repeatedly it's women's rights to sex based spaces and not medicalising children. That doesn’t make people transphobes.

You're still peddling this on other threads.

Why don't you engage?

@AccidentallyWesAnderson

No point - because you won't engage with the reality that transgender people are and will always be a tiny marginalised group of people and that acknowledging this is central to having a useful conversation about this issue.

It's why transphobes won't use the term 'trans woman' or 'transgender'. You need to say 'man in a dress' or 'trans identifying man' - because this shifts the locus of the argument away from considering the ramifications of being inclusive to a tiny marginalised group of people, to a different one, which is the oppression of women (both transgender and cisgender) by cis gender men, who are 49.9% of the population.

You can be an immigrant PoC-as I am- be fiercely GC- as I am- and still believe that even if Trump knows what a woman he is, he and the rest of his party treats them like shit.

And that's why I wouldn't vote for him. His anti women stance is more worrying to me than any promises he may have made about single sex spaces.

Moot, as I'm not American.

Izimbra
Absolutely agree that there is no 'Left'. I was just being lazy about using quote marks.

Why can't you answer anything put to you?

You should enter competitions with the amount of side stepping you're doing.

@Madcats

An article about why we can't be inclusive of transgender people that can't use the word 'transgender' or 'transwoman'.

Typical GC bollox.