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How long will Lammy remain as Foreign Secretary?

90 replies

Sausagenbacon · 06/11/2024 07:55

It looks like Trump will be the next President, and Lammy has been strongly critical of him.
Will he be put into another post, I wonder. But then, if he IS shifted, the optics aren't good on it.
I'm just posting to see if anyone else is thinking this.

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TheNuthatch · 06/11/2024 10:00

LetThereBeLove · 06/11/2024 09:56

Hopefully. Wonder who would be a better fit in the role?

Whoever they choose, they can't be any worse than Lammy.

bombastix · 06/11/2024 09:59

LetThereBeLove · 06/11/2024 09:56

Hopefully. Wonder who would be a better fit in the role?

Almost anyone. This tactless man should never have been appointed. If he thinks he can soft soap a Trump administration he is deluded

EasternStandard · 06/11/2024 09:59

Not sure but Labour are likely feeling more on their own this morning

Just generally against other political shifts and trade implications

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 06/11/2024 09:58

Alexandra2001 · 06/11/2024 08:38

Were you so concerned about the Trump May relationship? Boris has FS ? or is this just another "Lets have a go at Labour" thread?

Trump does whats good for Trump, he doesn't give a shiny shit about Lammy, Badenoch or anyone else.

The UK has little influence in the world & so far Lammy has done a good job.

or is it a race thing for you?

@Alexandra2001 , it is a perfectly reasonable question given the appalling rude comments Lammy made about Trump. I can’t see how he can continue to represent this country on the world stage after having behaved is such an ignorant and undiplomatic way towards the leader of the free world.

LetThereBeLove · 06/11/2024 09:56

TheNuthatch · 06/11/2024 09:54

I think there will be a cabinet reshuffle in the new year and Lammy will be out of the Foreign Office.

Hopefully. Wonder who would be a better fit in the role?

TheNuthatch · 06/11/2024 09:54

I think there will be a cabinet reshuffle in the new year and Lammy will be out of the Foreign Office.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 06/11/2024 09:49

On a brighter note, the socialist experiment in the UK should prove short.

Lets rejoice at that.

SugarIsHardtoAvoid · 06/11/2024 09:48

The BBC sets out that Lammy has been actually incredibly busy trying to build a relationship with Trump and his team. Thank god for diplomacy. What a nightmare though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvzjr8w9mxo

Donald Trump points to the crowd during his rally, with the backdrop of the US flag

What a Donald Trump victory means for the UK

How will Keir Starmer, the former north London human rights lawyer, gel with the brash New York billionaire?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvzjr8w9mxo

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 06/11/2024 09:47

BIossomtoes · 06/11/2024 09:11

This country is an inconsequential small island in the North Sea, our government is irrelevant to Trump. The special relationship is history.

You misunderstand Trump then.

Hes a vengeful fellow and Starmer and Lammy haven’t exactly ingratiated themselves….

LetThereBeLove · 06/11/2024 09:43

Lammy is utterly useless as Foreign Secretary. The fact that Labour openly pinned their hopes (and taxpayers money?) to Kamala means the end to the so called special relationship we had with the US. Starmer needs to rethink his strategy, if he has one at all. Getting rid of Lammy would be a good start.

Sausagenbacon · 06/11/2024 09:36

Oh dear
So what are basing your hatred of Lammy on?
So. Tell me where I displayed 'hatred'
Please

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Beekeepingmum · 06/11/2024 09:28

BeansMeansBeans · 06/11/2024 09:08

Lammy is a bloody moron, so hopefully not long. I cringe that he is our FS

To be fair so is Trump so they will probably get on really well in person.

Alexandra2001 · 06/11/2024 09:17

Sadcafe · 06/11/2024 08:51

Absolutely, Lammy’s colour has nothing at all to do with this, he described Trump as a neo nazi, Trump isn’t the most forgiving person, as doubtless many in the US will find, so Lammy may not be the best placed, but we may be surprised

@Sausagenbacon Yet Trump spoke highly of Starmer, he and Starmer over ran their meeting with Trump.... and neither met Harris, as things have turned out, not a bad decision.

So what are basing your hatred of Lammy on?

All this crap about Trump being unforgiving? maybe educate yourself and see what Trumps running mate, Vance said about Trump?

called the Republican presidential candidate an "idiot" and said he was "reprehensible." Privately, he compared him to Adolf Hitler

All gone over your head hasn't it...

ItIsBeginingToLookLike · 06/11/2024 09:16

SnapdragonToadflax · 06/11/2024 09:11

I'm no fan of any of the Royal Family, but I think it's highly unlikely Harry would be interested in helping Trump? And I can't see what help he would be with Charles?

I imagine they'll have to grit their teeth and endure a state visit at some point.

Trump will leverage Harry (there is a court case in the USA due to the publication of Spare and street drug consumption/visa applications) with Charles.

I wouldn't be surprised if he rang Charles and asked him what would be the best outcome for him with the Harry situation to get Charles onside, to have some nice Carriage rides down the Mall to Buckingham Palace whilst signing a trade deal.

ItIsBeginingToLookLike · 06/11/2024 09:13

We are now a poorer rich country lacking in an identy and headed for a nose dive in decline as there are few boundaries.

SnapdragonToadflax · 06/11/2024 09:11

ItIsBeginingToLookLike · 06/11/2024 08:55

I do think Trump likes the British Royal family as an institution and coming over to enjoy the pomp and ceremony. Those dealing with this require tact that Lammy lacks.

I suspect he will want another state visit with Charles and will use Harry in his negotiation.

I'm no fan of any of the Royal Family, but I think it's highly unlikely Harry would be interested in helping Trump? And I can't see what help he would be with Charles?

I imagine they'll have to grit their teeth and endure a state visit at some point.

BIossomtoes · 06/11/2024 09:11

This country is an inconsequential small island in the North Sea, our government is irrelevant to Trump. The special relationship is history.

bombastix · 06/11/2024 09:10

MrsLeonFarrell · 06/11/2024 09:03

Trade agreements would be great but I think we need to acknowledge just how insignificant the UK is on the world stage.

Yes of course we are. We need them urgently because our economy is going to be totally battered by Trump’s policies. Britain is an international minnow

SnapdragonToadflax · 06/11/2024 09:08

He's very well connected with the EU, so I suppose it depends where our focus is. I doubt Trump is desperate to visit the UK (at least diplomatically), but we're so inconsequential now after Brexit that it doesn't really matter.

Really we need to focus on diplomacy with the EU and improving trade and bureaucracy, with a view to rejoining in the next 20 years.

BeansMeansBeans · 06/11/2024 09:08

Lammy is a bloody moron, so hopefully not long. I cringe that he is our FS

cheezncrackers · 06/11/2024 09:04

RayonSunrise · 06/11/2024 08:11

Lammy's not the only one who's going to have a problem. The Tories have just voted a black woman to be leader - Trump may manage to be polite because she's politically sympathetic, but it's hard to imagine him warming to her in any way.

So the U.K. is out of step with the US both in government and opposition. And that's before we've even got to Ukraine, and war with Iran...

I disagree. For all Trump's issues, he's used to working with black people and he's had a lot of women in positions in his businesses and his first administration. The Cons and the Republicans have a lot of policy agreements and Kemi never plays up her race or her sex, she is not an identity politician at all. And then there's the obvious point that the Cons aren't in power and Trump's second term will have ended by the time we have another GE here.

Labour's real problem is that the British politician that's closest to Trump is Nigel Farage, who has been a vocal Trump supporter all along. He was present at Trump's final campaign rally and got a shout out.

MrsLeonFarrell · 06/11/2024 09:03

bombastix · 06/11/2024 08:58

Well no! But perhaps we might like a free trade agreement that cuts us out of his plans? David Lammy doesn’t strike me as the man to get that across

Trade agreements would be great but I think we need to acknowledge just how insignificant the UK is on the world stage.

peanutbuttertoasty · 06/11/2024 09:02

It’s ok he’ll probably just get us nuked. No biggie.
Lammy is an absolute liability and has no place in government. Nothing to do with his race whatsoever. Entirely to do with his lack of brain cells.

bombastix · 06/11/2024 08:58

MrsLeonFarrell · 06/11/2024 08:53

I don't think it really matters who is foreign secretary. Trump makes decisions based on what he thinks is best for him. I don't think the UK figures much in his thinking.

Well no! But perhaps we might like a free trade agreement that cuts us out of his plans? David Lammy doesn’t strike me as the man to get that across

hamstersarse · 06/11/2024 08:57

I think starmer and Lammy are in a bit of a quandary now. Lammy has spread lies about Trump, Starmer sent people over to campaign for Harris.

They are so dumb

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