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How long will Lammy remain as Foreign Secretary?

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Sausagenbacon · 06/11/2024 07:55

It looks like Trump will be the next President, and Lammy has been strongly critical of him.
Will he be put into another post, I wonder. But then, if he IS shifted, the optics aren't good on it.
I'm just posting to see if anyone else is thinking this.

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Park24 · 06/11/2024 18:07

You don't get to call someone a neonazi publicly, especially someone with an ego like Trump, and think there won't be consequences.

Lammy is a liability - politics includes diplomacy and his crass comments will prove to be very costly. Hopefully KS will reshuffle him.

Trump and Farage are genuine friends - Farage won't be slow to share his thoughts on Lammy and the current government with Trump. This is going to have much bigger consequences for KS and his cabinet than just some awkward conversations.

Alexandra2001 · 06/11/2024 17:58

Sausagenbacon · 06/11/2024 09:36

Oh dear
So what are basing your hatred of Lammy on?
So. Tell me where I displayed 'hatred'
Please

You've taken the time to post a thread on that you believe he should go... based on what?
Lammy had an extended meeting with Trump, so it went well, why drag up the past like this?

Plenty of Western Leaders and politicians have called out Trump, Macron being one in a long line.

casapenguin · 06/11/2024 17:13

SugarIsHardtoAvoid · 06/11/2024 10:41

Oh sorry I was posting in good faith. I thought we were here to discuss what the actual government including David Lanmy has been doing to anticipate today’s seismic US election result for global politics. My bad. Crack on.

Posting to say thanks for that link I found it interesting!

ipredictariot5 · 06/11/2024 16:26

I heard on CNN during the night that despite endlessly talking about enemies Trump is actually pretty forgiving. Absolutely Lammy should stay, it would be a bad thing if governments around the world start sacking people because of some presumed previous offence caused to Trump? What happens if he has a problem with our PM does he get to force the UK to have another election?

KoalaCalledKevin · 06/11/2024 16:25

@EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime it's not giving him credit if he does now get rid of him. In that case it's pointing out that he should have been able to predict this possibility but didn't.

I'm also not sure that thinking Starmer was aware of an upcoming US election is giving him that much credit. It's a very very low bar.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 06/11/2024 16:19

KoalaCalledKevin · 06/11/2024 16:16

He was appointed when there was a reasonable chance of Trump winning, so it would be odd for it to be a dealbreaker now.

FGS.

Was Rayner appointed premised on a similar logic?

You give Starmer too much credit I think.

tinydynamine · 06/11/2024 16:18

when did it become acceptable for UK government ministers to openly support candidates in the elections of allied countries?

KoalaCalledKevin · 06/11/2024 16:16

He was appointed when there was a reasonable chance of Trump winning, so it would be odd for it to be a dealbreaker now.

EasternStandard · 06/11/2024 16:15

LondonPapa · 06/11/2024 16:07

Lammy makes stupid comments but the Trump team actually like him. Unlike Cameron, he listened. Sure he doesn’t agree but he was attentive and that counts. I doubt he’ll get the boot.

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but the Trump team actually like him

What do you base that on?

Snowyish · 06/11/2024 16:15

BIossomtoes · 06/11/2024 09:11

This country is an inconsequential small island in the North Sea, our government is irrelevant to Trump. The special relationship is history.

This is incorrect. We have 10,000 US troops based in the UK and our intelligence services work closely together and are highly valued.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 06/11/2024 16:11

LondonPapa · 06/11/2024 16:07

Lammy makes stupid comments but the Trump team actually like him. Unlike Cameron, he listened. Sure he doesn’t agree but he was attentive and that counts. I doubt he’ll get the boot.

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In the same way Trump liked Kim Darroch you mean?

LondonPapa · 06/11/2024 16:07

Sausagenbacon · 06/11/2024 07:55

It looks like Trump will be the next President, and Lammy has been strongly critical of him.
Will he be put into another post, I wonder. But then, if he IS shifted, the optics aren't good on it.
I'm just posting to see if anyone else is thinking this.

Lammy makes stupid comments but the Trump team actually like him. Unlike Cameron, he listened. Sure he doesn’t agree but he was attentive and that counts. I doubt he’ll get the boot.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 06/11/2024 15:59

Some of the usual hardcore LW posters have been awfully quiet today.

One wonders why….

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 06/11/2024 13:39

PandoraSox · 06/11/2024 10:00

He's been pretty forgiving to Vance.

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Until he served a purpose.

Starmer serves none.

EasternStandard · 06/11/2024 11:53

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 06/11/2024 11:42

Let’s hope Lammy isn’t sidelined to manage the Commonwealth relationship.

That could prove costly.

Blimey

Yeh maybe not.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 06/11/2024 11:42

Let’s hope Lammy isn’t sidelined to manage the Commonwealth relationship.

That could prove costly.

SugarIsHardtoAvoid · 06/11/2024 10:41

Oh sorry I was posting in good faith. I thought we were here to discuss what the actual government including David Lanmy has been doing to anticipate today’s seismic US election result for global politics. My bad. Crack on.

Getonwitit · 06/11/2024 10:28

bombastix · 06/11/2024 08:58

Well no! But perhaps we might like a free trade agreement that cuts us out of his plans? David Lammy doesn’t strike me as the man to get that across

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I agree. Lammy couldn't get a discount at a car boot sale.

bombastix · 06/11/2024 10:08

An FTA will carve the UK out of the general application of the 10 prevent tariffs proposed by Trump.

We can also have a general tariff discussion in parallel. Trump was pro a US UK FTA last time and the UK really does need to decide on a trade and growth policy. Some say it should be the EU and not the US. But we need to choose

EasternStandard · 06/11/2024 10:05

peanutbuttertoasty · 06/11/2024 10:00

Trump is a great many things, but I don’t think he’s thick.
Looking forward to the absolutely incompetent trade deal Lammy saddles us with.

Is there a trade deal in the offing?

I thought imposed tariffs were more likely, we don't get to decide

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/11/2024 10:03

hamstersarse · Today 08:57
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I think starmer and Lammy are in a bit of a quandary now. Lammy has spread lies about Trump, Starmer sent people over to campaign for Harris.
They are so dumb

What were the lies?

bombastix · 06/11/2024 10:02

peanutbuttertoasty · 06/11/2024 10:00

Trump is a great many things, but I don’t think he’s thick.
Looking forward to the absolutely incompetent trade deal Lammy saddles us with.

Be fair. We have concluded awful trade deals irrespective of our government.

The US will drive a very hard bargain on farming - British farmers thought Aus was bad. The US sets a much tougher line and on animal welfare forget it.

PandoraSox · 06/11/2024 10:01

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 06/11/2024 09:49

On a brighter note, the socialist experiment in the UK should prove short.

Lets rejoice at that.

What socialist experiment?

PandoraSox · 06/11/2024 10:00

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 06/11/2024 09:47

You misunderstand Trump then.

Hes a vengeful fellow and Starmer and Lammy haven’t exactly ingratiated themselves….

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He's been pretty forgiving to Vance.

peanutbuttertoasty · 06/11/2024 10:00

Trump is a great many things, but I don’t think he’s thick.
Looking forward to the absolutely incompetent trade deal Lammy saddles us with.