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Dawn Butler racism just fine according to Labour

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Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 08:44

Well, didn’t take long for labour ministers to show their real beliefs did it. According to Dawn Butler, Kemi Badenoch is “a white supremacist in blackface” (with apologies to all for re-typing her massively offensive words). According to the lovely KS this is all just fine, nothing to see here, move along.

One rule for labour, one rule for everybody else. Again. Last time it was failure to declare gifts. This time it is blatant racism. How hideous this government is and what rank hypocrites.

Dawn Butler must have the whip withdrawn otherwise I don’t want to hear one more word from this racist government.

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Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 10:36

Queensguide · 04/11/2024 10:34

The Chancellor glass ceiling wasn't a Labour thing. Reeves is the first Chancellor in 800 years regardless of policy.

I suppose a good question to ask really is, which party does most for women and people of colour across the nation in terms of employment law, equality law, and in terms of childcare, opportunity, the environment and health? Also, looking at voting records of parties and MPs - who votes in favour of women's rights and freedoms?

MPs and PMs are the minority of our country. Their actions affect millions of people in all aspects of their daily life.

What Dawn Butler retweeted is not acceptable to me or representative of the way all/many Labour voters think.

TBF Kemi does know what a woman is at least.

Queensguide · 04/11/2024 10:34

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:28

Big whoop. She has smashed labours glass ceiling to become chancellor, that’s a comparatively low bar for women in policitics in the uk. Doesn’t excuse their record.

The Chancellor glass ceiling wasn't a Labour thing. Reeves is the first Chancellor in 800 years regardless of policy.

I suppose a good question to ask really is, which party does most for women and people of colour across the nation in terms of employment law, equality law, and in terms of childcare, opportunity, the environment and health? Also, looking at voting records of parties and MPs - who votes in favour of women's rights and freedoms?

MPs and PMs are the minority of our country. Their actions affect millions of people in all aspects of their daily life.

What Dawn Butler retweeted is not acceptable to me or representative of the way all/many Labour voters think.

EasternStandard · 04/11/2024 10:34

Womblewife · 04/11/2024 09:28

What an awful comment. She should be sacked immediately.

I agree.

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 10:32

Queensguide · 04/11/2024 10:23

366,000 people are members of the Labour party.
Nearly 10 million people voted Labour at the last election.
There are lots of very good people amongst those groups and many Labour MPs devote their whole careers to working for their communities.

Angela Rayner has to have panic buttons in her family home (she's had death and rape threats) because of the kind of hatred directed towards politicians. This kind of division from either side is harmful to our democracy and gets us nowhere.

I did originally include in my post that this didn't apply to all Labour supporters or indeed all Labour MPs but deleted it for being too long. I will retract that deletion. I fully admit that the Labour movement overall aren't bad people. But Keir Starmer is the current leader of it and all his actions (rather than words) since becoming PM have shown that he has some sort of chip missing. He's making cruel decisions and is favouring one group to the significant detriment of another. He obviously despises certain groups (farmers, pensioners, the middle classes, business owners, young workers, the white working class for example) and has chosen people in his cabinet that share his social world view. This is not a party that rules for the whole country. It is not good for the country.

LizzieSiddal · 04/11/2024 10:31

Dawn Butler isn’t the sharpest tool in the box and her retweet was not advisable.

However as the Tory’s voted for a man who wrote and said many deeply racist comments, to be their leader, and then the country voted for him to be PM, I doubt most people will think Dawns comment is punishable.

KindQuail · 04/11/2024 10:31

Keir didn't care all that much when Angela Rayner called the conservatives racist, homophobic, misogynistic scum so i'm not surprised.

MaidOfAle · 04/11/2024 10:28

Maddy70 · 04/11/2024 10:26

Ridiculous comment. Would you want a job that was given to you because you had tits? I want the role on my merit. We've just has a speach from the first woman Chancellor.

Why not? Millions of mediocre men get jobs because they have dicks. A smaller number of mediocre rich men get jobs because they have dicks and went to the right school.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:28

Big whoop. She has smashed labours glass ceiling to become chancellor, that’s a comparatively low bar for women in policitics in the uk. Doesn’t excuse their record.

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Maddy70 · 04/11/2024 10:26

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:12

This old excuse just highlights that labour have never ever thought that a woman or poc would be the best person for the job. So still hideous.

Ridiculous comment. Would you want a job that was given to you because you had tits? I want the role on my merit. We've just has a speach from the first woman Chancellor.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:26

Aah so you can’t explain it @username7891 Fair enough, it’s really baffling I agree. One might think labour are prejudiced, that’s one possible answer.

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username7891 · 04/11/2024 10:24

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:20

It is not explained via a google search @username7891. You’re not shy about posting here so please can you explain why women or people of colour have never been selected as labour leader. I’ll wait.

I'm not here to satisfy your curiosity or do your research.

Queensguide · 04/11/2024 10:23

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 09:44

Are you trying to run the old lefty whatabouterry tactic? We see through you all now. The fog is starting to lift.

Labour aren't good people.

366,000 people are members of the Labour party.
Nearly 10 million people voted Labour at the last election.
There are lots of very good people amongst those groups and many Labour MPs devote their whole careers to working for their communities.

Angela Rayner has to have panic buttons in her family home (she's had death and rape threats) because of the kind of hatred directed towards politicians. This kind of division from either side is harmful to our democracy and gets us nowhere.

MaidOfAle · 04/11/2024 10:21

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:17

So why do they never ever reach the leadership position then @username7891 - please explain

There's still some trade unions that would not back a female Labour leader. It's not an official refusal, it's not written down, the membership just wouldn't vote for one. Misogyny is rife in certain unions.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:20

It is not explained via a google search @username7891. You’re not shy about posting here so please can you explain why women or people of colour have never been selected as labour leader. I’ll wait.

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username7891 · 04/11/2024 10:19

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:17

So why do they never ever reach the leadership position then @username7891 - please explain

Google it.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:17

So why do they never ever reach the leadership position then @username7891 - please explain

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username7891 · 04/11/2024 10:16

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:10

They are certainly making it look that way. Best park your ambitions at the door if joining the Labour Party as a woman or person of colour - there is an immovable glass ceiling for you (before anyone jumps in to cheer about RR being chancellor - big whoop. That is small fry compared to conservatives actually walking the walk time and again in their leadership selection, whether you like them or not).

You are quite right - labour hates Kemi’s selection so much because it highlights their woeful record when it counts.

Labour leadership congratulated Badenoch on her win. Badenoch responded by trying to humiliate and belittle Rachel Reeves.

As you're aware, the Labour government has more women in the cabinet than any other government, has more female MPs and more people from ethnic minorities than the Tories. Rachel Reeves is the first female chancellor in 800 years.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:12

Maddy70 · 04/11/2024 09:58

Do you think someone should be leader because of the colour of their skin or their sex? Personally, I want the best for the job whoever they may be

This old excuse just highlights that labour have never ever thought that a woman or poc would be the best person for the job. So still hideous.

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Noisylass · 04/11/2024 10:11

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:10

They are certainly making it look that way. Best park your ambitions at the door if joining the Labour Party as a woman or person of colour - there is an immovable glass ceiling for you (before anyone jumps in to cheer about RR being chancellor - big whoop. That is small fry compared to conservatives actually walking the walk time and again in their leadership selection, whether you like them or not).

You are quite right - labour hates Kemi’s selection so much because it highlights their woeful record when it counts.

What are you on? That's not true they don't hate her for that they hate her for her voting review her opinions I mean the other day saying we should all get over Boris party gate saying it's nothing . So that's the tories not learning from their mistakes is it

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 10:10

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 09:55

It's obvious why Dawn and Labour are hitting back at Kemi Badenoch being leader. They will be furious. Labour - the party of woke have not had non white leader (Conservatives have had two) or a permanent female leader (Conservatives have had four). You might think that Labour, despite their self-marketing as being woke, are actually fairly bigoted.

They are certainly making it look that way. Best park your ambitions at the door if joining the Labour Party as a woman or person of colour - there is an immovable glass ceiling for you (before anyone jumps in to cheer about RR being chancellor - big whoop. That is small fry compared to conservatives actually walking the walk time and again in their leadership selection, whether you like them or not).

You are quite right - labour hates Kemi’s selection so much because it highlights their woeful record when it counts.

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Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 04/11/2024 10:10

TinkerTiger · 04/11/2024 10:01

I've just googled Dawn Butler fully expecting to see a white woman. She is a black woman.

As a black woman myself this is different coming from another black woman, we are allowed to call out behaviour that we see as harmful to people of our own race. There are terms within black and other ethnic minority cultures to describe people of our own race who we feel are acting in the best interests of the majority race.

@TinkerTiger , don’t you think that in the interest of equality which I hope we are all striving for, that all ‘rules’ should apply to all equally?
By the way if you don’t know who Ms Butler is I would guess that you’re not very politically engaged, it’s important to understand what this shameless shower represents before considering voting for them.

MaidOfAle · 04/11/2024 10:09

This is just another way to call a Black woman "coconut" or "Oreo" for not toeing the Labour/Democrat (delete according to nation) party line. Isn't it racist to assume that all people of a particular colour or background will want the same thing and think the same way?

Noisylass · 04/11/2024 10:07

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 10:05

What are you saying? Do you think Kemi is getting above herself as she's leader of the opposition and also black? Do you "see that as harmful to people of our own race"? That's well down the madness of identity politics!!

No that's not what that person means kemi says that there isn't racism in the uk there is but kemi didn't grow up in the uk if she sis she would have found that wasn't true. Guido harris Boris Johnson old advisor stated on lbc other day that kemi can say what other white people can't so maybe as this fellow poster was saying kemi doesn't have best interest for fellow black folk

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 10:05

TinkerTiger · 04/11/2024 10:01

I've just googled Dawn Butler fully expecting to see a white woman. She is a black woman.

As a black woman myself this is different coming from another black woman, we are allowed to call out behaviour that we see as harmful to people of our own race. There are terms within black and other ethnic minority cultures to describe people of our own race who we feel are acting in the best interests of the majority race.

What are you saying? Do you think Kemi is getting above herself as she's leader of the opposition and also black? Do you "see that as harmful to people of our own race"? That's well down the madness of identity politics!!

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 10:03

Maddy70 · 04/11/2024 09:58

Do you think someone should be leader because of the colour of their skin or their sex? Personally, I want the best for the job whoever they may be

Well obviously I agree. But I'm not left wing and into performative politics. The left generally see someone's skin colour or sex before they see the character. We all know this.