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Dawn Butler racism just fine according to Labour

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Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 08:44

Well, didn’t take long for labour ministers to show their real beliefs did it. According to Dawn Butler, Kemi Badenoch is “a white supremacist in blackface” (with apologies to all for re-typing her massively offensive words). According to the lovely KS this is all just fine, nothing to see here, move along.

One rule for labour, one rule for everybody else. Again. Last time it was failure to declare gifts. This time it is blatant racism. How hideous this government is and what rank hypocrites.

Dawn Butler must have the whip withdrawn otherwise I don’t want to hear one more word from this racist government.

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Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 12:17

Clarification for you above @username7891

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Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 12:16

No, I’m talking about Dawn Butler’s tweet. Dawn Butler. Offensive tweet. I think she should have the whip removed. Is that clear enough? D.A.W.N B.U.T.L.E.R.

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quantumbutterfly · 04/11/2024 12:16

BotanicalGreen · 04/11/2024 12:10

Or maybe live and sell out

It's said that the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing but expect a different result.

It makes more sense to learn from your mistakes and stop making them, even better is to learn from other peoples' mistakes, even better is to not make mistakes at all, though very unlikely.

username7891 · 04/11/2024 12:14

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 12:11

Please please please can we talk about Dawn Butler. That is what I am banding on about. Dawn Butler MP.

This thread is about Dawn Butler. And her offensive tweet (for the avoidance of doubt).

I'm simply responding to your comments.

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 12:12

username7891 · 04/11/2024 12:08

People are asking for evidence of the progressive party you're banging on about. You're talking about Labour prejudice while Johnson won a landslide. It's laughable.

The phrase "labouring the point" could have been invented for you in both senses!! 🤣

EasternStandard · 04/11/2024 12:12

username7891 · 04/11/2024 12:08

People are asking for evidence of the progressive party you're banging on about. You're talking about Labour prejudice while Johnson won a landslide. It's laughable.

The op isn't 'banging' on about that. She's talking about Dawn Butler's tweet.

It seems you are more interested in that topic

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 12:11

username7891 · 04/11/2024 12:08

People are asking for evidence of the progressive party you're banging on about. You're talking about Labour prejudice while Johnson won a landslide. It's laughable.

Please please please can we talk about Dawn Butler. That is what I am banding on about. Dawn Butler MP.

This thread is about Dawn Butler. And her offensive tweet (for the avoidance of doubt).

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BotanicalGreen · 04/11/2024 12:10

quantumbutterfly · 04/11/2024 12:05

I prefer live and learn.

Or maybe live and sell out

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 12:08

leli · 04/11/2024 12:05

Is it awful though? Why should farmers die tax free. No-one else does.

There are extremely important reasons why, particularly for the benefit of the country. The news has covered this extensively so it's easy to bone up on the issue.

username7891 · 04/11/2024 12:08

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 12:01

No, I’m the one highlighting DB’s offensive retweet and KS’s inaction @username7891. That’s what I want to discuss.

I don’t understand why people keep banging on about BJ or demanding 14 years worth of Tory policy as evidence before admitting that what she re-tweeted was vile. Why can’t you just admit what she retweeted was horrible?

People are asking for evidence of the progressive party you're banging on about. You're talking about Labour prejudice while Johnson won a landslide. It's laughable.

quantumbutterfly · 04/11/2024 12:05

BotanicalGreen · 04/11/2024 12:00

"never progressed past" could be substituted with "held true to their values and didn't change their politics out of self interest, sometimes even just for one policy". How does that 'chime'?

I prefer live and learn.

leli · 04/11/2024 12:05

TheNuthatch · 04/11/2024 09:24

Good lord. I hadn't heard about that comment from RR. How awful.

Is it awful though? Why should farmers die tax free. No-one else does.

quantumbutterfly · 04/11/2024 12:03

TwigletsAndRadishes · 04/11/2024 11:57

Intellectually speaking, throwing Dawn Butler at Kemi Badenoch in a head to head debate would be like throwing a Chihuahua into the pit with a hungry wolf.

I'm all for it though. I hate Chihuahuas. Rather partial to wolves.

I've never been a fan of blood sports.

Dobest · 04/11/2024 12:02

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 09:24

They are certainly doing a splendid job of re-enacting Animal Farm

Good comment!

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 12:01

No, I’m the one highlighting DB’s offensive retweet and KS’s inaction @username7891. That’s what I want to discuss.

I don’t understand why people keep banging on about BJ or demanding 14 years worth of Tory policy as evidence before admitting that what she re-tweeted was vile. Why can’t you just admit what she retweeted was horrible?

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BotanicalGreen · 04/11/2024 12:00

twistyizzy · 04/11/2024 11:20

I read an interesting statement. Most adults on the right can understand the left because they started out there. Most adults on the left can't understand the right because they've never progressed past the politics of their youth.
I'm not being partisan here, just chimed with me.

"never progressed past" could be substituted with "held true to their values and didn't change their politics out of self interest, sometimes even just for one policy". How does that 'chime'?

Nordione1 · 04/11/2024 11:59

Gummybear23 · 04/11/2024 11:54

I know this is not the point but I find Kemi's portrayal of her background seems misleading and designed to craft a particular narrative. In countries like Nigeria and other parts of Asia, having a driver or domestic staff is common among the middle class due to lower labor costs. It’s not an indicator of wealth or high status as it would be in the UK. Claiming such experiences to present an image of privilege and affluence feels disingenuous if she didn’t grow up with similar circumstances in the UK.
It appears that this narrative is aimed at appealing to a specific voter base by projecting an image of success and connection to elite lifestyles. However, this approach falls flat for two main reasons. First, her views are often seen as extreme or divisive, alienating potential supporters. Second, the reality of British society means that a black woman running for leadership might still face significant resistance, regardless of her attempts to align with wealth or status. Overall, her strategy seems unlikely to win over those she’s trying to attract.

Who do you think she is trying to attract by this and why do you think her ethnic origin is relevant to those people.

HonestPayforHonestWork · 04/11/2024 11:59

TwigletsAndRadishes · 04/11/2024 11:57

Intellectually speaking, throwing Dawn Butler at Kemi Badenoch in a head to head debate would be like throwing a Chihuahua into the pit with a hungry wolf.

I'm all for it though. I hate Chihuahuas. Rather partial to wolves.

Madame how very well dare you.

QuickMember · 04/11/2024 11:59

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 08:44

Well, didn’t take long for labour ministers to show their real beliefs did it. According to Dawn Butler, Kemi Badenoch is “a white supremacist in blackface” (with apologies to all for re-typing her massively offensive words). According to the lovely KS this is all just fine, nothing to see here, move along.

One rule for labour, one rule for everybody else. Again. Last time it was failure to declare gifts. This time it is blatant racism. How hideous this government is and what rank hypocrites.

Dawn Butler must have the whip withdrawn otherwise I don’t want to hear one more word from this racist government.

I absolutely agree.

username7891 · 04/11/2024 11:57

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/11/2024 11:53

We are talking about Dawn Butler’s comment @username7891. Feel free to start your own thread about whether the tories are a progressive party. I’m not a Tory, but I am still enormously offended by what DB retweeted.

You're the one saying how progressive the Tories are because of their leadership. You're the one talking about how how racist Labour are.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 04/11/2024 11:57

quantumbutterfly · 04/11/2024 11:51

And this is the kind of intra & inter community division that Kemi said was so destructive to Nigerian society when she lived there.

This country needs to work, it will never be perfect but it feels like we're fighting over deckchairs on the Titanic.

Dawn Butler does not seem as capable at politics as Kemi, it would be interesting to see them chatting but watching a debate between them would titillate the same people who like watching women mud wrestle. We're stronger together and need to find compromise to move forward.

Intellectually speaking, throwing Dawn Butler at Kemi Badenoch in a head to head debate would be like throwing a Chihuahua into the pit with a hungry wolf.

I'm all for it though. I hate Chihuahuas. Rather partial to wolves.

Gummybear23 · 04/11/2024 11:57

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 04/11/2024 11:56

Ok, thanks.

And now back to Dawn Butler….

She is allowed her opinion.

HonestPayforHonestWork · 04/11/2024 11:57

I’m really disappointed in Labour. I’m politically homeless, like a fair few I imagine.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 04/11/2024 11:56

Gummybear23 · 04/11/2024 11:54

I know this is not the point but I find Kemi's portrayal of her background seems misleading and designed to craft a particular narrative. In countries like Nigeria and other parts of Asia, having a driver or domestic staff is common among the middle class due to lower labor costs. It’s not an indicator of wealth or high status as it would be in the UK. Claiming such experiences to present an image of privilege and affluence feels disingenuous if she didn’t grow up with similar circumstances in the UK.
It appears that this narrative is aimed at appealing to a specific voter base by projecting an image of success and connection to elite lifestyles. However, this approach falls flat for two main reasons. First, her views are often seen as extreme or divisive, alienating potential supporters. Second, the reality of British society means that a black woman running for leadership might still face significant resistance, regardless of her attempts to align with wealth or status. Overall, her strategy seems unlikely to win over those she’s trying to attract.

Ok, thanks.

And now back to Dawn Butler….

Gummybear23 · 04/11/2024 11:54

I know this is not the point but I find Kemi's portrayal of her background seems misleading and designed to craft a particular narrative. In countries like Nigeria and other parts of Asia, having a driver or domestic staff is common among the middle class due to lower labor costs. It’s not an indicator of wealth or high status as it would be in the UK. Claiming such experiences to present an image of privilege and affluence feels disingenuous if she didn’t grow up with similar circumstances in the UK.
It appears that this narrative is aimed at appealing to a specific voter base by projecting an image of success and connection to elite lifestyles. However, this approach falls flat for two main reasons. First, her views are often seen as extreme or divisive, alienating potential supporters. Second, the reality of British society means that a black woman running for leadership might still face significant resistance, regardless of her attempts to align with wealth or status. Overall, her strategy seems unlikely to win over those she’s trying to attract.

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