How dumb are Labour

It was foolish but who is the 'we' in the we will sort housing?

Nope they r not they have bad volunteers in most elections hillary Clinton had them so did Obama it's a thing they stay in democratic activists houses they r not paid for this

It's not new they did it for Clinton they have done in it most elections have a research

It's not new same thing happened with Clinton it's a thing that is done all the time. They do it as volunteers they are not being paid for this trump is just being a twat. Yet donakd trump don't care about farage helping him or Liz truss helping at their conferences. I saw on YouTube this isn't new

Agree with you - behind closed doors Starmer and Co, and any Labour party supporter, can do and say what they like. However, the government of any state should not (and usually does not) openly support any party or candidate in a non-domestic election. It is a total fucking diplomatic nightmare. One we will end up paying for when/if Trump gets in because he can be bloody vindictive, especially when it comes to trade agreement.

It is totally as though the 6th form student debating society is running the country and, more importantly, its diplomatic policy.

This hasn't been organised by the Labour Party.

I'm a Labour voter. My PiL live in PA, which is a swing state. If I went over to visit them I could get involved in a local campaign - door knocking etc. That's allowed and has nothing to do with the Labout Party.

We don’t need to go begging for a trade deal. We aren’t going to get one whoever wins. If we were we’d have it by now.

I don’t recall Trump taking offence at Liz Truss speaking at the Republican Party conference.

Or at Nigel Farage MP being funded (by a company close to Trump) to campaign for him in the US.

Funny how it’s Labour getting the flack isn’t it.

@EasternStandard it was organised by someone who works for the Labour Party yes. That doesn't mean it was organised by the Labour Party - people organise things not in their official capacity. If I helped organise some fundraising for a local charity that wouldn't mean my employer had any involvement or endorsed it, let alone funded or organised it.

The post was foolish, because it made it look official.

Trump/Musk have it in for Starmer and former have far more media control. Starmer & Co need better tactics.

What boils my piss though is that as someone with legal training I see these things coming miles off and so I do wonder how competent Starmer is. So many of the faux pas a smart lawyer would have foreseen? Why is he so out of his depth, he is too slow.

In any event, Musk who plays on Trumps team tried to interfere last summer and undermine our PM. So they deserve it back

or organised by the Labour Party

It was organised by a Labour staffer who made it public via LinkedIn

It's another situation where Labour failed to appreciate the optics of a situation. Which is a common theme so far. While the post on LinkedIn makes it look organised and approved by the Labour Party - the UK government (it refers to Labour party staff, not activists, not supporters).

If trump wins its going to make the US/UK relationship tricky for a while.

You'd have to want to filter a lot to not want legal action reported.

I guess they'll look into who paid for what, it has to be volunteer not paid, and since a staffer was involved someone did organise it

So do you think Labour Party members should be banned from travelling in their own time and using their own money to campaign on a trip that wasn't funded or organised by the Labour Party?

What do you think labour should do - do you think they should be kicked out of the party?

While it's legal for volunteers from other countries to help in an election in America, I agree with the OP that it is a spectacularly stupid own goal for Labour (who are now in government) to get involved in this. It looks really bad. And it's different to Farage campaigning because he is not in power.

How dumb do you have to be to believe this is an issue worth reporting

It isn’t news that Labour and Tory activists to volunteer in US elections - they do it every time

You are right OP. Labour is blatantly interfering in another country's election. I don't like Trump any more than the next sane person but there is no excuse for this.

I don't know who the idiot was who posted on LinkedIn but they clearly know nothing about international law. Labour needs to get a grip.

It isn’t allowed if not volunteers ie no pay. Accommodation has been raised, no idea if travel is the same

Whoever put up the LinkedIn content re organising the trips probably regrets it

It was covered earlier and from what I can tell it comes down to money, and if stuff was paid for (not sure about flights)

Yes it's bad for potential relations if Trump gets in. But he is the one bringing it up and making it an issue.

This is completely normal, were you under the impression that political parties don’t do this?