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Reeve an unstoppable force or a puppet?

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justasking111 · 13/10/2024 13:20

I honestly can't decide if she's ploughing her own furrow regardless of the views of other MPs, Starmer can't interfere because of other turmoil.

Or whether Starmer is settling her up for a fall.

It's really perplexing.

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MotiRoller · 14/10/2024 07:46

justasking111 · 14/10/2024 00:09

Why sadly. I think getting the economy set right is the most important responsibility a government has

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Because the budget should be a government consensus led by the party leader not a rogue actor acting with impunity alone.

username3678 · 14/10/2024 00:26

justasking111 · 14/10/2024 00:23

Not the Guardian I read

"How Labour promises have left Rachel Reeves with a giant budget headache | Budget | The Guardian" https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/13/how-labour-promises-have-left-rachel-reeves-with-a-giant-budget-headache

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That's a speculative piece on the upcoming budget. I didn't say that the Guardian hadn't written about her.

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justasking111 · 14/10/2024 00:23

username3678 · 13/10/2024 23:43

What stance? I just did a search through the Guardian and can't see what you're talking about. The scaremongering is coming from the right wing press frothing about Labour 'stealing' money.

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Not the Guardian I read

"How Labour promises have left Rachel Reeves with a giant budget headache | Budget | The Guardian" https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/13/how-labour-promises-have-left-rachel-reeves-with-a-giant-budget-headache

How Labour promises have left Rachel Reeves with a giant budget headache

Frustration grows with chancellor locked away in Treasury and facing competing challenges for her historic speech

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/13/how-labour-promises-have-left-rachel-reeves-with-a-giant-budget-headache

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justasking111 · 14/10/2024 00:09

MotiRoller · 13/10/2024 23:46

The leaks are coming from Reeves’ own people. They’re testing the water because they don’t want a repeat of the Trusss budget fuck up. Much better to leak some of their plans now and see what the reaction is. And yes sadly chancellors, thanks to the precedent set by Gordon Brown, effectively run the country.

Why sadly. I think getting the economy set right is the most important responsibility a government has

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MotiRoller · 13/10/2024 23:46

The leaks are coming from Reeves’ own people. They’re testing the water because they don’t want a repeat of the Trusss budget fuck up. Much better to leak some of their plans now and see what the reaction is. And yes sadly chancellors, thanks to the precedent set by Gordon Brown, effectively run the country.

username3678 · 13/10/2024 23:43

justasking111 · 13/10/2024 23:34

I understand that papers all have their own outlook. But was surprised to see the Guardian taking this stance.

PP said they were all repeating lies, which is depressing.

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What stance? I just did a search through the Guardian and can't see what you're talking about. The scaremongering is coming from the right wing press frothing about Labour 'stealing' money.

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justasking111 · 13/10/2024 23:34

username3678 · 13/10/2024 22:49

We don't have an independent press in the UK which is why Labour are getting ripped to shreds. Rich people don't like paying tax.

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I understand that papers all have their own outlook. But was surprised to see the Guardian taking this stance.

PP said they were all repeating lies, which is depressing.

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username3678 · 13/10/2024 22:49

justasking111 · 13/10/2024 22:08

Is the scare mongering working though?

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We don't have an independent press in the UK which is why Labour are getting ripped to shreds. Rich people don't like paying tax.

Zonder · 13/10/2024 22:43

justasking111 · 13/10/2024 22:08

Is the scare mongering working though?

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Are you scared? It all seems to have left you with a negative view. She's damned whatever she does.

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justasking111 · 13/10/2024 22:08

BIossomtoes · 13/10/2024 19:44

They’re not leaks, it’s all scaremongering made up by the media.

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Is the scare mongering working though?

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Zonder · 13/10/2024 22:05

BIossomtoes · 13/10/2024 19:44

They’re not leaks, it’s all scaremongering made up by the media.

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This. It's not her failing to keep things under her hat. What a pointless thread.

BIossomtoes · 13/10/2024 19:44

justasking111 · 13/10/2024 19:30

Other chancellors keep much more under their hat pre budget day. She would do well to follow that pattern. Rather than be shredded by the media in advance. The leaks are coming from somewhere.

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They’re not leaks, it’s all scaremongering made up by the media.

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justasking111 · 13/10/2024 19:30

Bromptotoo · 13/10/2024 18:24

Her surname is Reeves not Reeve.

Is what she's doing any different from how Chancellors have behaved throughuot the modern era?

Other chancellors keep much more under their hat pre budget day. She would do well to follow that pattern. Rather than be shredded by the media in advance. The leaks are coming from somewhere.

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Hatfullofwillow · 13/10/2024 18:34

She's a Labour Together pick.

Labour Together was first incorporated on 9 June 2015 as Common Good Labour by John Clarke, the former director of Blue Labour, the left conservative group

Bromptotoo · 13/10/2024 18:24

Her surname is Reeves not Reeve.

Is what she's doing any different from how Chancellors have behaved throughuot the modern era?

BIossomtoes · 13/10/2024 14:34

Zonder · 13/10/2024 14:16

So are the number of anti labour threads. Quite perplexing 🤔

I keep hoping they’ll get tired of them soon.

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justasking111 · 13/10/2024 14:34

Zonder · 13/10/2024 14:16

So are the number of anti labour threads. Quite perplexing 🤔

I hadn't noticed that. I'm just puzzled as to why they're not all singing from the same hymn sheet. Don't they discuss decisions beforehand re the economy. They agreed on cutting the WFA before hand I thought, there was no dissent there

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Zonder · 13/10/2024 14:16

So are the number of anti labour threads. Quite perplexing 🤔

Swipe left for the next trending thread