Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs

I think it's just a mixed conversation covering the flat during the pandemic which funnily enough is still his interpretation of reality

Many thanks

Sorry, I thought the thread topic was Starmer and his interpretation of reality?

Silly me.

True. So this freebie flat for those not in power?

He wasn’t during the pandemic.

I'll ask again, what does the existence of these consortiums have to do with the Labour party? Where have you read / what evidence do you have that they intend to sell off the NHS to them???

I addressed those issues because they were the ones that were raised.

Non of them should have done if they didn’t need to.

But going to your constituency is a work reason. It’s one of his places of work.

I have no idea why Boris was at chequers. And I have no idea if they were doing this at times we were told not to travel at all. But if they were, they shouldn’t have been doing it either.

But staying in your mates flat for no reason (KS doesn’t live far from it) whilst telling people to stay at home and pretending you are at home is dishonest.

And my point was he was dishonest then and he is being dishonest about why he had use of the flat now.

I can’t see anyone suggesting the Tories aren’t dishonest and self serving. But so is KS. They are the same.

For the nth time.

Starmer is in power.

Exactly the same applies to Sunak and Boris, as it does Starmer.

What possible business reason did any of them have? they ALL told us to stay at home, they ALL did the opposite.

Downing street is perfectly capable of being suitable to run the Govt from, not a pad in Yorkshire.

I'm critical of all of them, on this but you and others, only Starmer.

Yes they did.

Rishi moved from Yorkshire where his constituency was to London and back.

Boris moved between chequers and Downing Street. Both places he was working.

I can’t stand the Tories. But what business reason was he moving between his house and the flat?

You don’t think telling people to stay at home while pretending to be in your own home, but actually in a mates flat, for no good reason, isn’t dishonest?

Don’t worry - Rayners mates in the unions, the media, the markets, the rebels and labours own capacity to fuck things up themselves, will
keep things spicy.

We are patient.

It would appear that the left is in favour of obfuscating freedom of speech, both from its own advisors, electorate, unions and of course the public? Frightening times. Starmer is a dangerous monster in my eyes and I didn't have a kind word to say about the Tories.

As if anyone needs to make anything up, Labour is running this circus perfectly well on their own. The media are merely doing their job and publicising the shocking behaviour - as they should do. Bizarre that anyone who is a fan of left-leaning politics would want to silence the media or any other conflicting opinions (based on fact), highly irregular and frankly not very liberal.

I think you will find Labour is doing a perfectly good job of that on their own. They also have form for privatising and selling off public services to private Tory donors, like the many failing schools they sold to Lord Harris.

All political leaders during CV moved about, Sunak from London to Yorkshire & back, Boris to/fro Chequers and Starmer too.

There is plenty to have a go at Labour about without making stuff up.

40,000 teachers left the profession in 2023, 24% of these left teaching within 3 years of starting.
A shocking way to run state education, don't you think?

Getting 6700 to return to teaching, isn't an impossibility, together with changing TC's to try and increase retention.

Ideology? the only party with an engrained ideology were the Tories and Austerity, needed for 3 or 4 years but carried on for 14years, with disastrous results.

Hence why they/you are in opposition, though i use that word loosely, with just 121 MPs & i'm sure a few more will defect at some point soon.

They still haven't realised why they were rejected so roundly, as this thread proves.

@80smonster

"deltabluesandpinks
I don't really understand your post. Are you saying that Labour is planning on selling the NHS off to one of these consortiums because one of their aims is to digitise it? If you are saying that, how did you come to that conclusion?

How do you suppose the NHS will be fixed? Glue, string and ideological policy? I think not."

The point of my post is that the person who posted about the consortiums has absolutely no evidence that Labour will do this. It's just yet another post designed to put fear into people and turn them against Labour.

I think it's quite good people are seeing Labour without the nonsense toolmaker arrogance and other pre GE rubbish, outside pro Labour on mn of course.

Polling came back with Liar as top, not great. And that was before the latest on 'my boy'

And finally some realisation policies are duds.

Yes Eat out to help out, VIP lanes for PPE and Covid support loans, of which £11 billion will never be repaid.

Furlough was far too generous, and used fraudulently.

He signed all of this off, plus he used £8m of Tax payers money to fund a helicopter for himself, even Boris used a train!!!

Talking of advice given, Sunak ignored any given to him, as the Covid inquiry has been told.

The wider point is, that if the Tories were so competent, we'd have lower public debt & better public services, so France and Germany have seen public debt fall since Covid, France by 10%, more to do of course but ours is going up as are taxes and thats the Tory projection!

The country is in a mess, after 14 years of the Tories, which is why your policies were widely rejected.

Its sweet to see Tories on here soooooo incensed at being out of power for at least 5 years, lol!!!

I am absolutely with you on that.

Wasn't there a whole hoo ha about people traveling to their holiday homes?

What gives with this

And then he sets up the scene. Numpty

Now I think of it there was a whole issue around cake, so was this setting up a flat to look like his now house when we were told to stay at home better or worse