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Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs

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justasking111 · 25/09/2024 14:21

Can't berate Starmer for this but think some parents will be aghast.

"PM suggests £20,000 accommodation donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision' | Evening Standard" https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

PM suggests £20,000 donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision'

Keir Starmer defends his decision to take gifts from Labour peer Lord Alli

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

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Chersfrozenface · 28/09/2024 14:04

..KS knows full well so why did he think it were okay to take all the stuff from Lotd Alli. Baron Alli. Why not just say - actually I can afford my own clothes - so give the money to that homeless man over there who has no clothes.

Or just get him to make donations to the Labour party as an entity. It is allowed.

Xenia · 28/09/2024 13:51

It reminds me of that time decades ago when the Tories were going on about family values and then it was found a good few who had gone on about it were having affairs. Keir S was head of the CPS which has very strict rules on gifts and he is not like Alison Rayner who probably has not had the same background in terms of training on how it looks if you take gifts, but KS knows full well so why did he think it were okay to take all the stuff from Lotd Alli. Baron Alli. Why not just say - actually I can afford my own clothes - so give the money to that homeless man over there who has no clothes. I just don't understand it.

JRSKSSBH · 28/09/2024 13:15

Apparently there is worse to come. Rumours in Westminster of a super injunction to hide an inappropriate relationship and ultimately Keir resigning. One has to wonder if the foot dragging over the definition of a women, the proposed definition of Islamophobia are examples of someone’s undue influence. The amounts given must surely be buying him a lot of control and soft power. Lord Alli has links to President Assad, by the way.

MichaelandKirk · 28/09/2024 11:25

This doesn’t seem to be going away. The worst thing is that he criticised the Tories and stated scrapping the WFA would kill the oldies and he is doing exactly the same.

Does he really have no idea how this looks, it reminds me somewhat of Abbott and her criticism of private schools until it came to her own son…

I saw the Beth Rigby interview and she was very good with him. He was defensive and came across like entitled prig.

His family don’t seem onboard with him
being PM either. I do wonder how long he will last with sort of do as I say not what I do.

Maurepas · 28/09/2024 08:48

What were his ''boy's'' GCSE's results after all the quiet revising? I can only find one item saying he did not do well at all and his father shouted at him!

iwishihadknownmore · 28/09/2024 08:34

justasking111 · 27/09/2024 14:14

Trump has connections, Kamala doesn't.

Fuckin 'ell its all a conspiracy!

Got anything on microchips and vaccines?

JustSpeechless · 28/09/2024 08:31

Starmer's own biographer, Tom Baldwin writing for the Observer published that he had been with the Starmer family himself on July 4th as "They tried to show they were relaxed in this upmarket house Starmer had borrowed from a friend."

Starmer has tried to spin this house as being borrowed for his 'boy's' GCSEs - but the GCSEs were well over and done by July 4th.

Arafon · 28/09/2024 07:59

I'm wondering what cost so much, he just seems to wear dull suits. Maybe the clothes are all hanging in his wardrobe unworn, with labels on, 'tis very odd.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/09/2024 07:39

TizerorFizz · 28/09/2024 00:38

There’s more! They have just reassigned £30,000 plus from his office expenses to his personal gifts declaration! More clothes! It wasn’t even office expenses. This is just smelling of corruption. Dreadful. It’s just no 10 access in return for money. Utterly hypocritical. Starmer has had well over £130,000.

I’m beginning to think he didn’t have a single thing in his wardrobe.

That’s an awful lot to spend on clothes.

Portalsalways · 28/09/2024 05:25

I think what shocks me is the stupidity or audacity that he had to keep banging on about How corrupt/ sleazy the Tories are whilst doing exactly the same. The Tories are sleazy and corrupt. But the point is so is he and his party.

But is he so arrogant he thought no one would find out OR so stupid he thought it wouldn’t matter if he did it as well.

It’s like the winter fuel allowance. He knows what he and his party said about the Tories getting rid of the winter fuel allowance. He and his party kept talking about how it would kill 4000. Yet is doing exactly that at a time fuel prices are higher. But won’t answer why he thinks it’s acceptable to do it.

So was it bollocks when he said it about the Tories? Did they lie knowing it wasn’t true or do they just not care?

When he banged on about Boris wallpaper, whilst doing the same thing, did he assume he would continue getting away with it? Or that people wouldn’t care cause it was him? Or that it was perfectly acceptable because it was him?

Surely he knew he was being a hypocrite and carried on anyway? Surely he knew that if he ever got into Number 10 this would all blow up in his face?

justasking111 · 28/09/2024 00:41

TizerorFizz · 28/09/2024 00:38

There’s more! They have just reassigned £30,000 plus from his office expenses to his personal gifts declaration! More clothes! It wasn’t even office expenses. This is just smelling of corruption. Dreadful. It’s just no 10 access in return for money. Utterly hypocritical. Starmer has had well over £130,000.

Gawd it's a slurry pit at Westminster.

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TizerorFizz · 28/09/2024 00:38

There’s more! They have just reassigned £30,000 plus from his office expenses to his personal gifts declaration! More clothes! It wasn’t even office expenses. This is just smelling of corruption. Dreadful. It’s just no 10 access in return for money. Utterly hypocritical. Starmer has had well over £130,000.

justasking111 · 28/09/2024 00:33

Novaavon · 27/09/2024 22:51

I just feel so disappointed with it all. I just wanted decency, honesty and transparency. And it's not happening.

My new MP is Sue Gray's son. He received donations from Lord Alli during his campaign and since being elected. At no point during the campaign, or in his literature, did he say who his mother was. I don't care who his mother is. But I feel duped. I just want to feel it's all fair and it's so far from it.

Ugh. The sleaze is relentless.

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Novaavon · 27/09/2024 22:51

I just feel so disappointed with it all. I just wanted decency, honesty and transparency. And it's not happening.

My new MP is Sue Gray's son. He received donations from Lord Alli during his campaign and since being elected. At no point during the campaign, or in his literature, did he say who his mother was. I don't care who his mother is. But I feel duped. I just want to feel it's all fair and it's so far from it.

TizerorFizz · 27/09/2024 21:57

There’s going to be strike after strike in the NHS. Plenty more want their slice of the cakes. Nurses will be striking again soon. Uni lecturers got half what teachers got. None of this and the bloated public sector is sustainable, and that’s before the pensions no one else gets. Of course they planned cutting WFP. The whole barrel load of excuses is dishonest. They knew the Cons were going to find it difficult and would have to rein in spending. Half the alleged black hole is NHS wages increases. Just wait until the budget to find out all the rest of it.

MichaelandKirk · 27/09/2024 21:53

The non dom issue was obvious. They will just move from the UK. With them goes their spending in the UK too.

Idiots

MichaelandKirk · 27/09/2024 21:45

He is a massive hypocrite and seems pissed off that he is being asked to explain. The worrying thing is that he doesn’t seem to get it.

MN is left wing generally and there seems to be excuse after excuse for his sanctimonious behaviour. He comes across as a prig. He caved into the unions and I believe it was always planned to get rid of WFA. They didn’t just think of it over the last few weeks

Thatmakesperfectsense · 27/09/2024 21:15

I wondered what other people think of editor Isabel Oakeshott's comment on Talk, she discusses other possible reasons why Kier was not living at his own house during lockdown?

https://x.com/TalkTV/status/1839568189186793838

TizerorFizz · 27/09/2024 19:58

I don’t have an issue with the PM having a car and driver and taking a helicopter. They do deserve to be able to do the job properly and it’s a hell of a job! What is not right is any politician taking £100,000 plus of extra free perks. They were not part of the job. All politicians know the risks. They can seek to reduce them without having a central London flat!

MoneyNeverSleeps · 27/09/2024 19:07

upinaballoon · 27/09/2024 17:27

I'm not looking to deflect particularly, but I was picking up on what one person had said, putting a line of Tories in the bin, as if there aren't any nuances and as if everyone is wholly right or wrong.
This thread is not about the policies of the current government. It's about Keir Starmer having another place for his son to have privacy to revise.

If you want me to address a policy or two, I might have time.
Policies:
1.WFP I didn't read the Labour manifesto but as I understand it, the removal of the Winter Fuel Payment from many pensioners wasn't mentioned in it. However, it was done early on. I don't know whether Rachel Reeves knew very well that she was going to do it and kept quiet, or whether she discussed it with Keir Starmer before the election and they both decided they'd do it but not mention it. If it had been in the manifesto it might have have cost them the election. I don't know what the people in her department say to one another at meetings, so I don't know whether she had to change the WFP as an urgent move, or not. Whether she intended to do it or not, they all made sure and still make sure, that they keep trotting out the cliche that she had to do something because they found a hole et cetera, and it's time they stopped going on about it, because even if it's true it's boring and it's had it's day.

2.Cancel the Rwanda plan. Yes, I've no grumbles about cancelling that. I notice that the slogan is now 'Smash the gangs'. We can all go around saying 'Smash the gangs' twenty-seven thousand times a week, but that won't necessarily smash the gangs. By Christmas 2024 or by July 2025 how many gangs will have been smashed? Well, somewhere in a remote corner of Radio 4 there might be a bod who will give the best analysis of that next July.

Sorry. I don't have more time to address the policies, albeit on the wrong thread, but I would just like to say that if my body had to keep going to conferences and then getting in aeroplanes and having dinner with Trumple Dumple when I should have been asleep for several hours, my bowels wouldn't know if they were coming or going, so if the Leader or the Lammy are looking ever so serious today I'll know why.
Upinaballoon, have you always been flippant? No, I have moments of seriosity.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I now owe you a reply and will do so.

Have a great evening.

Clavinova · 27/09/2024 18:41

iwishihadknownmore
Sunak used £8m of Tax payers money to fund a helicopter for himself

The helicopter contract was first set up in 2006 - under Labour. It was used for 'high priority military personnel, ministers and government officials within the UK and near Europe'...

https://bidstats.uk/tenders/2024/W07/816709824

Although the contract has gone though various tenders and renewals over the 17 years it has been run, Sloane Helicopters has been the chosen operator throughout.

The MoD is also not providing any details on how they will fulfil this role going forward...

https://www.helihub.com/2023/08/18/british-government-stops-vip-helicopter-contract/

upinaballoon · 27/09/2024 17:27

MoneyNeverSleeps · 27/09/2024 10:28

Are any of you able to address the policies of the current Labour government rather than continually looking to deflect?

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I'm not looking to deflect particularly, but I was picking up on what one person had said, putting a line of Tories in the bin, as if there aren't any nuances and as if everyone is wholly right or wrong.
This thread is not about the policies of the current government. It's about Keir Starmer having another place for his son to have privacy to revise.

If you want me to address a policy or two, I might have time.
Policies:
1.WFP I didn't read the Labour manifesto but as I understand it, the removal of the Winter Fuel Payment from many pensioners wasn't mentioned in it. However, it was done early on. I don't know whether Rachel Reeves knew very well that she was going to do it and kept quiet, or whether she discussed it with Keir Starmer before the election and they both decided they'd do it but not mention it. If it had been in the manifesto it might have have cost them the election. I don't know what the people in her department say to one another at meetings, so I don't know whether she had to change the WFP as an urgent move, or not. Whether she intended to do it or not, they all made sure and still make sure, that they keep trotting out the cliche that she had to do something because they found a hole et cetera, and it's time they stopped going on about it, because even if it's true it's boring and it's had it's day.

2.Cancel the Rwanda plan. Yes, I've no grumbles about cancelling that. I notice that the slogan is now 'Smash the gangs'. We can all go around saying 'Smash the gangs' twenty-seven thousand times a week, but that won't necessarily smash the gangs. By Christmas 2024 or by July 2025 how many gangs will have been smashed? Well, somewhere in a remote corner of Radio 4 there might be a bod who will give the best analysis of that next July.

Sorry. I don't have more time to address the policies, albeit on the wrong thread, but I would just like to say that if my body had to keep going to conferences and then getting in aeroplanes and having dinner with Trumple Dumple when I should have been asleep for several hours, my bowels wouldn't know if they were coming or going, so if the Leader or the Lammy are looking ever so serious today I'll know why.
Upinaballoon, have you always been flippant? No, I have moments of seriosity.

nearlylovemyusername · 27/09/2024 15:34

EasternStandard · 27/09/2024 15:12

More education on economics, behavioural studies and the media would be good. For both

You're touching raw nerve here...

Those aspiring middle classes can't go to the schools which do it best anymore

MoneyNeverSleeps · 27/09/2024 15:13

EasternStandard · 27/09/2024 15:12

More education on economics, behavioural studies and the media would be good. For both

Integrity, proper DD on ‘friends’…

EasternStandard · 27/09/2024 15:12

nearlylovemyusername · 27/09/2024 15:05

Just musing about some exams / IQ tests for aspiring politicians...

and for electorate for that matter

More education on economics, behavioural studies and the media would be good. For both

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