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Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs

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justasking111 · 25/09/2024 14:21

Can't berate Starmer for this but think some parents will be aghast.

"PM suggests £20,000 accommodation donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision' | Evening Standard" https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

PM suggests £20,000 donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision'

Keir Starmer defends his decision to take gifts from Labour peer Lord Alli

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

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80smonster · 25/09/2024 18:46

TwigTheWonderKid · 25/09/2024 18:40

I wasn't rude, I was factual.

I will step away.But my indignation isn't "mock", just born from frustration. I have terminal cancer and only a few months to live so I do tend to get a bit upset when stuff like this is latched on to when there are so many more important issues people could get worked up about and it makes me sad that people are so entrenched in their opinions that they cannot see any other side. But that's my problem, not yours.

I too have been factual. I’m pleased you have firmly grasped what is being said by others. We do not have to agree. Again, respectfully, your cancer treatment doesn’t have much to do with this thread and could be seen as trying to occupy moral high ground. I wish you well with your treatment.

Londonmummy66 · 25/09/2024 18:44

My daughters went to a school where there were a lot of girls living in overcrowded accommodation with lots of younger siblings. They all used to go to their local public library to revise in peace and quiet. Believe it or not Keir you can find quite a lot of free and quiet pubic libraries to study in in London.

usernother · 25/09/2024 18:42

I'm no fan of Starmer but I think this is fine, given his job.

TwigTheWonderKid · 25/09/2024 18:40

80smonster · 25/09/2024 18:28

You were relatively rude to another poster. Labour supporters aren’t very comfortable unless they feel they occupy the moral high ground, which isn’t looking very plausible. Respectfully, I think your mock indignation is laughable.

I wasn't rude, I was factual.

I will step away.But my indignation isn't "mock", just born from frustration. I have terminal cancer and only a few months to live so I do tend to get a bit upset when stuff like this is latched on to when there are so many more important issues people could get worked up about and it makes me sad that people are so entrenched in their opinions that they cannot see any other side. But that's my problem, not yours.

caringcarer · 25/09/2024 18:39

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 25/09/2024 17:16

Why can't his son study at home?

Many kids study in local libraries.

EasternStandard · 25/09/2024 18:38

caringcarer · 25/09/2024 18:38

He could have rented a cottage somewhere for his family but he prefers luxury penthouses. I can't believe he tries to blame his son for having his own snout in the trough. I wonder if he'll blame his daughter next?

Every time he's questioned he sounds so petulant and put upon

Blaming someone else

caringcarer · 25/09/2024 18:38

He could have rented a cottage somewhere for his family but he prefers luxury penthouses. I can't believe he tries to blame his son for having his own snout in the trough. I wonder if he'll blame his daughter next?

TizerorFizz · 25/09/2024 18:37

He was leader of the opposition making over £400,000 a year. Most consider that a reasonable “perk”.

Plus he’s now got Chequers, free cars, free lunches, free flat in central London, massive pension and exit payment, no heating bills, no council tax and still people think he needs more? The PMs salary is a fraction of what he gets. It is totally misjudging the feelings of the nation to take more and more when he spoke out about others doing exactly this.

TheUniversalsHere · 25/09/2024 18:36

I think the one media snippet that 'got' me in the last few days was Starmer apparently saying some months ago he was affected by rising mortgage rates as he had just come off a fixed rate like many of us, and he spoke of Sunak's lack of understanding for those struggling to meet higher payments last year, yet according to a media report has paid off said mortgage in full on his £2m London house come September 2024. I just don't like the pretence to be a man of the people when he clearly is minted and doesn't have the same struggles or live a life anything like that of the majority. But a lot - if not all - politicians do this. His son being able to access a quieter place to study and a notional value attached... I am a little (more) meh. I think this stuff will tarnish his image if it carries on though?

EasternStandard · 25/09/2024 18:31

PortiasBiscuit · 25/09/2024 18:30

There’s got to be some perks to the shittiest job in the Kingdom.

If only that had been said earlier they'd be less likely to be hoisted by their own petard

80smonster · 25/09/2024 18:31

potionsmaster · 25/09/2024 18:28

The hypocrisy of this, in the context of VAT on school fees, is staggering. When parents of kids with SEN have raised the point that their child really struggled in a state school and has only been able to thrive in private, Labour's response has been 'well, what about all the kids with SEN who don't have the luxury of that choice?' The exact same is true here. There are thousands of kids in this country who don't have a quiet space to revise, because of unsuitable housing or difficult family circumstances - they don't all have a millionaire pal to lend them a spare room to revise in. How very DARE Starmer lecture private school parents about using their privilege to gain a better education for their children when he is doing precisely the same thing.

Worse than staggering- it reaffirms the one rule for us and another for the povvos.

PortiasBiscuit · 25/09/2024 18:30

There’s got to be some perks to the shittiest job in the Kingdom.

80smonster · 25/09/2024 18:30

Freysimo · 25/09/2024 18:25

Maybe Lady Starmer AND the kids decamped there?

Yes I expect they are all in a tent on Hampstead Heath singing ‘Ging Gang Goolie’.

Bitethehandthatfeeds · 25/09/2024 18:29

My DC sat GCSEs this year and often went to the school or public library to study in peace. Just saying.

potionsmaster · 25/09/2024 18:28

The hypocrisy of this, in the context of VAT on school fees, is staggering. When parents of kids with SEN have raised the point that their child really struggled in a state school and has only been able to thrive in private, Labour's response has been 'well, what about all the kids with SEN who don't have the luxury of that choice?' The exact same is true here. There are thousands of kids in this country who don't have a quiet space to revise, because of unsuitable housing or difficult family circumstances - they don't all have a millionaire pal to lend them a spare room to revise in. How very DARE Starmer lecture private school parents about using their privilege to gain a better education for their children when he is doing precisely the same thing.

80smonster · 25/09/2024 18:28

NoWordForFluffy · 25/09/2024 18:25

The Labour fans are twisting themselves into pretzels to try to explain this away. I'm sure they'd be just as understanding had it been a Tory who'd done this. 🤔😬

Grasping at straws more like.

80smonster · 25/09/2024 18:28

TwigTheWonderKid · 25/09/2024 18:24

Well yes, it is when you say it like that. It's clear we all have very different opinions on this situation but we can surely still be respectful?

You were relatively rude to another poster. Labour supporters aren’t very comfortable unless they feel they occupy the moral high ground, which isn’t looking very plausible. Respectfully, I think your mock indignation is laughable.

Josephinesnapoleon · 25/09/2024 18:28

TwigTheWonderKid · 25/09/2024 18:21

No, I'm not asking why he declared it. That's obvious.

If you were in a situation where you needed to temporarily leave your house, for whatever reason, and a friend offered to put you up would you turn them down?

It wasn’t just a friend putting him up, if it was, it wouldn’t be declared. What do you think he was in the spare room ? 😂

Chipsintheair · 25/09/2024 18:27

And yes there are libraries still open nearby. Belsize Park and Highgate as well as Kentish Town. The British Library is free to use and is a short bus ride away from the school.

Seriously, why doesn't the school provide after-school revision periods, anyway, considering so many pupils won't have internet access or space to work at home?

NoWordForFluffy · 25/09/2024 18:25

Viewfrommyhouse · 25/09/2024 18:04

The flat was 'borrowed' from 29th May to 13th July this year. GSCE exams started on 9th May, and the last exam was sat on 19th June. Honestly, anyone swallowing this whole 'it was for my son' shite is either genuinely thick, or about to get a massive headache due to the cognitive dissonance they're experiencing. The fucking hypocrisy is unreal.

The Labour fans are twisting themselves into pretzels to try to explain this away. I'm sure they'd be just as understanding had it been a Tory who'd done this. 🤔😬

Freysimo · 25/09/2024 18:25

EasternStandard · 25/09/2024 18:19

I expect so. It's a fib isn't it, the dates don't even match

Maybe Lady Starmer AND the kids decamped there?

TwigTheWonderKid · 25/09/2024 18:24

80smonster · 25/09/2024 18:19

Is it rude to check the person commenting understands what is being said? You appeared to be suggesting others were misunderstanding/misinformed - when that plainly isn’t the case.

Well yes, it is when you say it like that. It's clear we all have very different opinions on this situation but we can surely still be respectful?

80smonster · 25/09/2024 18:23

ViciousCurrentBun · 25/09/2024 17:29

Labour are supposed to be for the people the Conservatives don’t even pretend to be do they and that why it seems so bad, the hypocrisy.

Except they aren’t, just ideological blaggers by the looks of things.

TizerorFizz · 25/09/2024 18:23

@80smonster Id go for all of them!

TwigTheWonderKid · 25/09/2024 18:21

Josephinesnapoleon · 25/09/2024 18:12

You can’t be serious. Are you asking why he declared it?? This was a freebie. And an expensive one at that. To a man who should be above sticking his hand out. And who could easily afford somewhere for his son. Or him.

No, I'm not asking why he declared it. That's obvious.

If you were in a situation where you needed to temporarily leave your house, for whatever reason, and a friend offered to put you up would you turn them down?