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Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs

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justasking111 · 25/09/2024 14:21

Can't berate Starmer for this but think some parents will be aghast.

"PM suggests £20,000 accommodation donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision' | Evening Standard" https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

PM suggests £20,000 donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision'

Keir Starmer defends his decision to take gifts from Labour peer Lord Alli

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

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justasking111 · 26/09/2024 13:35

No more clothes, so jewellery, watches, new kitchen, furniture, car, you're good to go.

Honestly Tories, labour, two sides of the same coin.

I wasn't going to vote at all after researching my contenders. We're in Wales. Poked into all their social media

Labour - dim as a night light
Tory - invisible, never bothered to move from Suffolk.
Liberal - spun like a weather vane
Green party - Pro farming, pro flood defence. She spoke my language so voted for her.

Labour landslide result. 🤷🤷

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Notaflippinclue · 26/09/2024 13:31

It didn't cost us anything? The Government is in hock to some guy - why - what's he get in return?

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 13:25

caringcarer · 26/09/2024 13:05

Starmer just tried to deceive parliament and the public as to how much he is on the take. It's disgusting and plenty of kids go to the library to study peacefully.

No he didn’t. The whole reason we know about it is because he declared it and it’s all on the Members’ Register website for anyone to see. However much you might argue it’s ethically wrong, no attempt has been made to deceive.

Chersfrozenface · 26/09/2024 13:19

EasternStandard · 26/09/2024 13:08

Damage is done for them but I thought they'd only said no to clothes

The other stuff is still good to go

Per the BBC

"It is not clear whether whether it [the new policy of not accepting donations for clothes] will apply to other donations in kind."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyvpv1lzq6o.amp

Silence on this aspect suggests that other freebies will indeed be good to go.

Oh, and in the BBC story, remarkably sensible words from Bernard Jenkin. Flippin' 'eck, what is the world coming to?

Cranto · 26/09/2024 13:18

It’s just so excessive.

How disruptive/out of control is Starmer’s household that they can’t tell the others living there to keep it down for a short period of time?

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 13:11

LBFseBrom · 26/09/2024 12:55

He has since said he is not going to accept large gifts any more. However they've all done it at times. There definitely should be a cap on the cost of gifts.

It is time to move on from that, it didn't cost us anything and it's over.

I thought he said no more free clothes, can you link? I personally don’t think the issue is the fact he’s had his hand out. For me it’s the lying about it. Boris was crucified for it. Now keir has rolled in and is doing the same shit.

they lied to get elected. They lie every time they put a policy in and blame the tories, they cream off the top and lie. But using your own kid is friggen low.

EasternStandard · 26/09/2024 13:08

LBFseBrom · 26/09/2024 12:55

He has since said he is not going to accept large gifts any more. However they've all done it at times. There definitely should be a cap on the cost of gifts.

It is time to move on from that, it didn't cost us anything and it's over.

Damage is done for them but I thought they'd only said no to clothes

The other stuff is still good to go

caringcarer · 26/09/2024 13:05

Chersfrozenface · 26/09/2024 12:07

All it takes is some research on accomodation sites.

Short term rental for a property like that starts at £700 a night i.e. £4,900 a week, and heads upwards.

The figure Starmer used is the lowest figure for a long term rental.

The approximately six weeks he said the flat was lent for would be a short term rental.

Starmer just tried to deceive parliament and the public as to how much he is on the take. It's disgusting and plenty of kids go to the library to study peacefully.

Chersfrozenface · 26/09/2024 13:04

LBFseBrom · 26/09/2024 12:55

He has since said he is not going to accept large gifts any more. However they've all done it at times. There definitely should be a cap on the cost of gifts.

It is time to move on from that, it didn't cost us anything and it's over.

I hope that applies equally to all politicians of all parties. You know, to be fair.

Nordione1 · 26/09/2024 12:59

LBFseBrom · 26/09/2024 12:55

He has since said he is not going to accept large gifts any more. However they've all done it at times. There definitely should be a cap on the cost of gifts.

It is time to move on from that, it didn't cost us anything and it's over.

Yes move along now. No need to pay attention to what our politicians get up to. We can trust them implicitly.

LBFseBrom · 26/09/2024 12:55

He has since said he is not going to accept large gifts any more. However they've all done it at times. There definitely should be a cap on the cost of gifts.

It is time to move on from that, it didn't cost us anything and it's over.

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justasking111 · 26/09/2024 12:37

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 11:45

Of course she does, she’s a Tory. 😂

Don't be naive. A farmhouse near us hinterlands of North Wales sleeps 11 is £2500 for a week at the end of October. It does have a hot tub though 🤭

Gawd knows what the covent garden place would be on Airbnb

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Londonmummy66 · 26/09/2024 12:29

ElizaMulvil · 26/09/2024 08:27

I think you're remembering many years ago. See opening hours of Tate Library, Lambeth ( an area of deprivation ) and only small area there for study, usually full of adult people using computers etc. Apart from Tuesday when it's open till 8pm, it's not open at all in the evenings, Tuesdays, Sundays.

Opening times
Venue opening times
Monday
1pm to 6pm
Tuesday
Closed
Wednesday
10am to 6pm
Thursday
10am to 8pm
Friday
10am to 6pm
Saturday
9am to 5pm
Sundays
Closed
Bank Holidays
Closed

No I'm not and that was one of the libraries they used! Also some community centres around that offer quiet spaces for study and homework.

It also wouldn't have been beyond the wit of Keir's team to have asked somewhere like Senate House to allow his son in to study - mine bought a day pass there at one point around A levels.

justasking111 · 26/09/2024 12:21

iwishihadknownmore · 26/09/2024 10:22

Oh people are twisting things for their own political ends.

No outrage with VIP lanes handing out billions of tax payer money for personal gain... or 14000 people dying each year because of poor AE care... but take a suit etc and declare it on the register of members interests, all within the rules and its all Corrupt and immoral.

Argue for changes in the rules but to pretend this is a moral issue is beyond belief.

what could be immoral that 14000 who would otherwise live, dying? Labour was elected to improve this but you lot don't care so go after the trivial.

You don't know much about claiming expenses do you? Benefit in kind? The tax we have to pay on it. Whereas MPs don't.

Try remembering to fill in your mileage sheets when you use your own car. Employees who get a bit of private health care. It's all taxed.

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Chersfrozenface · 26/09/2024 12:07

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 11:45

Of course she does, she’s a Tory. 😂

All it takes is some research on accomodation sites.

Short term rental for a property like that starts at £700 a night i.e. £4,900 a week, and heads upwards.

The figure Starmer used is the lowest figure for a long term rental.

The approximately six weeks he said the flat was lent for would be a short term rental.

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 11:45

caringcarer · 26/09/2024 11:43

Kirsty Alstop thinks the value of a penthouse in Covent garden is far higher than the £3500 per week Starmer claimed it to be.

Of course she does, she’s a Tory. 😂

caringcarer · 26/09/2024 11:43

Kirsty Alstop thinks the value of a penthouse in Covent garden is far higher than the £3500 per week Starmer claimed it to be.

NoWordForFluffy · 26/09/2024 11:36

Nordione1 · 26/09/2024 10:04

I did clock that error, completely knew what she meant as it was so close to the election which was a forgone conclusion but assumed that someone would not be able to resist making a big deal. Clearly he was about to be PM so the point stands that he was being given a benefit due to his imminent position that he would not have otherwise received.

It's not as if you don't make factual mistakes yourself @Blossomtoes Or is it a different rule for other people maybe.

And still failing to appreciate that ALL of the freebies are hypocritical, whether she 'approves' of them or not.

80smonster · 26/09/2024 11:31

EasternStandard · 26/09/2024 11:04

They're all over the shop with their excuses

I couldn't say no to my child or whatever was also a farce

Laboursplaining. Same as mansplaining but vastly more patronising.

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 11:30

Nordione1 · 26/09/2024 11:27

Also that did make me laugh about why the door gets opened without anyone having to knock. As if the gates and the police at the entrance to Downing Street didn't exist.

How do you know about the door opening system anyway, @Blossomtoes

I can’t remember. I think someone mentioned it in a podcast once. Can you remember how you discovered everything you know?

The police at the gates obviously have the same list as the one at the door.

Zonder · 26/09/2024 11:30

Portalsalways · 26/09/2024 08:30

And is that family friend a peer?

Were either of your parents in the running to be prime minister?

Weird question. Of course not. Does that make a difference? I went to a family friend. If my family mixed in different circles the family friend might have been quite a different person. I don't suppose the current PM is mates with my mum's old friend.

Chersfrozenface · 26/09/2024 11:27

There’s a long list of people admitted to No 10, that’s how the door gets opened without anyone having to knock. Alli’s a Labour peer, ie a politician. I imagine James Timpson is on the list too.

Yes, there will be a list of those expected that day - who don't have a pass, that's why they have to be on the list.

James Timpson is Minister of State for Prisons, Parole and Probation, a member of the government, and will legitimately hold a pass.

Nordione1 · 26/09/2024 11:27

Nordione1 · 26/09/2024 11:23

The whole point is why did he have the pass in the first place when he does not work at Number 10. Was it because he had bought his way in. That's the whole issue.

Same problem if he didn't have a physical pass but was just nodded in at the door.

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Also that did make me laugh about why the door gets opened without anyone having to knock. As if the gates and the police at the entrance to Downing Street didn't exist.

How do you know about the door opening system anyway, @Blossomtoes

Nordione1 · 26/09/2024 11:23

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 11:13

The Labour party said that it had been returned weeks before the story appeared in the media.

How does that work? The only way you could possibly have known about its existence is via the media.

There’s a long list of people admitted to No 10, that’s how the door gets opened without anyone having to knock. Alli’s a Labour peer, ie a politician. I imagine James Timpson is on the list too.

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The whole point is why did he have the pass in the first place when he does not work at Number 10. Was it because he had bought his way in. That's the whole issue.

Same problem if he didn't have a physical pass but was just nodded in at the door.