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Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs

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justasking111 · 25/09/2024 14:21

Can't berate Starmer for this but think some parents will be aghast.

"PM suggests £20,000 accommodation donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision' | Evening Standard" https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

PM suggests £20,000 donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision'

Keir Starmer defends his decision to take gifts from Labour peer Lord Alli

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

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EasternStandard · 26/09/2024 16:07

justasking111 · 26/09/2024 16:03

🤭🤭 the famous book case used as a back drop by Starmer during Xmas lockdown

Yeh not bad

The staging was for the video was scuzzy too

Lafondah · 26/09/2024 16:06

nearlylovemyusername · 26/09/2024 16:05

I wonder what GCSE grades Free Gear Junior got 😂

Dad probably had a word with the markers.

nearlylovemyusername · 26/09/2024 16:05

I wonder what GCSE grades Free Gear Junior got 😂

justasking111 · 26/09/2024 16:03

Chersfrozenface · 26/09/2024 14:55

Pictures of the "room" when it was up for sale.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/inside-18-35-million-penthouse-144440550.html

Floral Court, Covent Garden - should you fancy a more modest gaff in the same building, here you go
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/151919855#/?channel=RES_NEW

This one does have a "roof terrace" AKA a rather narrow balcony.
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/140440835#/?channel=RES_BUY

🤭🤭 the famous book case used as a back drop by Starmer during Xmas lockdown

Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs
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Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 16:01

And talking of anti bribery. Wiki gives a succinct overview.

In 2024, The Guardian reported that Alli had donated £500,000 to the party since 2020, as well as giving Starmer personal donations worth over £50,000

In August 2024, The Times reported that Alli had been given unrestricted access to 10 Downing Street, uncommon for anyone not formally employed in the Prime Minister's office, and that he had held a reception for party donors in the Downing Street garden.[37]

He was also reported to have gifted Starmer nearly £16,200 of free clothing, which initially was not properly declared, while Starmer’s wife, Victoria, was given £5,000 of free clothing, which at first was not declared.[38] The Daily Telegraph referred to Alli's loan of a "swanky" apartment to the Starmers, with a value of £20,000, as "donor-gate."[39] The Telegraph also reported that Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner faced an investigation by the parliamentary standards commissioner over the use of Alli's $2.5-million New York apartment.[40]

the whiff of corruption is now a stench.

Waheed Alli, Baron Alli - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waheed_Alli,_Baron_Alli#cite_note-37

EasternStandard · 26/09/2024 15:56

mugglewump · 26/09/2024 15:50

I don't know the full details of this story, but imagine doing your GCSEs whilst your father is campaigning to become PM, while the mainstream press are hounding him and therefore you? The Starmers have worked hard to keep their children out of the public eye - no staged family cinema visits for them! - and they have a right to some privacy. Also, I completely detest this tabloid media finger pointing bigotry.

Why on earth would they hound a teenager doing their GSCE study at home? They wouldn't even be camping outside the front door

This is madness. I can't believe the story is being bought

The dates don't even match up

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 15:54

mugglewump · 26/09/2024 15:50

I don't know the full details of this story, but imagine doing your GCSEs whilst your father is campaigning to become PM, while the mainstream press are hounding him and therefore you? The Starmers have worked hard to keep their children out of the public eye - no staged family cinema visits for them! - and they have a right to some privacy. Also, I completely detest this tabloid media finger pointing bigotry.

What are you on about, no one as hounding the kids, they are never pictured, and the flat was loaded for multiple weeks after the GCSE’s, the dates don’t align.

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 15:53

And when we look at anti bribery laws, it isn’t just money as said, it is anything of high value to the recipient, be it attending a prestige sports event,,like starmers season ticket upgrade, or a holiday, travel in a private jet, clothing etc.

becsude if you accept the gift, then you may need to give something back, effectively it is a bribe, to do something , in this instance politically, or use your power to benefit the giver.

it is illegal. Starmer is a lawyer, he knows it is illegal. He knows why you can’t accept high value gifts due to the perception of corruption.

and yet, him, his wife and raynor started accepting before they even won. And carried on taking after.

nearlylovemyusername · 26/09/2024 15:50

Starmer's son got it cheaply.

Another Labour MP got "interest free loan" of £1.2m
Lord Alli loaned Labour MP £1.2m to buy a house with her dying sister (msn.com)

All for free, out of goodness of Lord Alli's heart

mugglewump · 26/09/2024 15:50

I don't know the full details of this story, but imagine doing your GCSEs whilst your father is campaigning to become PM, while the mainstream press are hounding him and therefore you? The Starmers have worked hard to keep their children out of the public eye - no staged family cinema visits for them! - and they have a right to some privacy. Also, I completely detest this tabloid media finger pointing bigotry.

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 15:48

Happyher · 26/09/2024 15:42

It didn’t cost anyone £20,000. A friend who is a party member and donor offered him the use of a flat. No public money spent. No money changed hands. Just a kind offer from a friend. But Starmer has to declare any gifts/benefit in kind and had to put a value on it. That’s where the £20,000 figure comes from.

Um no money changed hands as it was a freebie, that’s the whole point of the issue.

do you really not understand? Do you not understand why politicians can’t accept gifts of value? Any government officials. Senior people in large companies? Most companies do not allow gifts like this, inc in the uk. Due to anti bribery laws.

anti bribery laws cover both monetary gifts and gifts of high value to the recipient. If the recipient accepts it gives a potential for them to owe something back. Something that favours the giver. Something in this case only a prime minister could push for.

Of course he has to bloody declare it. Just because it wasn’t cash in a brown envelope under the table doesn’t change that. He has to be open due to anti bribery laws and the risk of corruption.

Happyher · 26/09/2024 15:42

It didn’t cost anyone £20,000. A friend who is a party member and donor offered him the use of a flat. No public money spent. No money changed hands. Just a kind offer from a friend. But Starmer has to declare any gifts/benefit in kind and had to put a value on it. That’s where the £20,000 figure comes from.

TizerorFizz · 26/09/2024 15:40

@Lafondah The true working class voted Reform. All those slightly left people are middle class. The right is the working class.

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 15:39

upinaballoon · 26/09/2024 15:35

On the Beeb news a few days ago, it showed Angela Rayner walking along in a red dress and then Rachel Reeves walking along in a suit. The commentary was about these gifts. Was that red dress one of the 'gift' dresses or was it just any old dress, for the TV just to have a pic of her?

youd need to picture the dress, as she’s several red dresses. It’s the me and em ones I think and she’s even got suits free as well. They’ve taken thousands of pounds worth of clothing. Thousands.

Lafondah · 26/09/2024 15:37

upinaballoon · 26/09/2024 15:31

Angela Rayner is to Keir Starmer what (two Jags) John Prescott was to Tony Blair - the bit of rough that was supposed to keep everyone thinking that the party was heavily into the working class. Hardly anyone dares utter the words working-class nowadays. They saying 'working people' and I think that includes everyone except a small number of members of the upper classes.

I think Keir said nice things about looking after working people, somewhere in the sausage speech. Goodo, I was working hard in the garden this morning.

Blair/Starmer also didnt want a 2nd in command to upstage them, which would obvs never happen with Prescott/Rayner. Prescott even got away with punching a protestor square in the face in the famous egg incident and nobody reallly cared.

The joke is the delusions of grandeur and the immediate shunning of the working classes that voted for them.

upinaballoon · 26/09/2024 15:35

On the Beeb news a few days ago, it showed Angela Rayner walking along in a red dress and then Rachel Reeves walking along in a suit. The commentary was about these gifts. Was that red dress one of the 'gift' dresses or was it just any old dress, for the TV just to have a pic of her?

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 15:32

MoneyNeverSleeps · 26/09/2024 15:16

Rayner is a self-confessed gob, a diversity hire, and a union patsy.

Her Tory ‘scum’ comment says it all.

She’s basically a union hire and starmer can’t get rid, she’s earning well into six figures and swanning about in expensive freebie clothes with her hands out.

they know they are fucking it, can’t get over their luck of getting in, and are going to milk it for five years.

upinaballoon · 26/09/2024 15:31

Angela Rayner is to Keir Starmer what (two Jags) John Prescott was to Tony Blair - the bit of rough that was supposed to keep everyone thinking that the party was heavily into the working class. Hardly anyone dares utter the words working-class nowadays. They saying 'working people' and I think that includes everyone except a small number of members of the upper classes.

I think Keir said nice things about looking after working people, somewhere in the sausage speech. Goodo, I was working hard in the garden this morning.

Nordione1 · 26/09/2024 15:29

LBFseBrom · 26/09/2024 13:36

I agree, Blossom.

This issue (& others), was thoroughly aired in last week's Question Time. If you didn't see it, it's worth watching. I was particularly impressed by Tim Farron.

Your last sentence is not something you read very often!

MoneyNeverSleeps · 26/09/2024 15:16

Lafondah · 26/09/2024 15:14

The man is a slimy slippery toad and Rayner is no different. Pleading poverty then grabbing all the luxury lifestyle options as soon as offered. Same as working class Prescott playing croquet with millionnaires as soon as the chance arose. Champagne socialists the lot of them.

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Rayner is a self-confessed gob, a diversity hire, and a union patsy.

Her Tory ‘scum’ comment says it all.

Lafondah · 26/09/2024 15:14

The man is a slimy slippery toad and Rayner is no different. Pleading poverty then grabbing all the luxury lifestyle options as soon as offered. Same as working class Prescott playing croquet with millionnaires as soon as the chance arose. Champagne socialists the lot of them.

Portalsalways · 26/09/2024 15:12

BaconMassive · 26/09/2024 14:40

Seems like a witch hunt.

Isn't there any better news than child uses room to revise?

I understand that otherwise renting that room may have cost £20,000 but was that put to Starmer at the time?

That’s not the story at all though is it.

And pretending ‘child uses room to revise’ is the actual story, doesn’t make people think that’s the story.

The story is more KS pretending he accepted something to benefit his son because he thinks that’s ok and people are stupid and will shut up and believe him.

That’s like saying the whole Tories having a party during lockdowns was just ‘work colleagues getting to getter and having cake and a drink’.

MoneyNeverSleeps · 26/09/2024 15:08

The thing that really grates about Starmer, is that he has this most unfortunate holier-than-thou attitude. He is right, and you are not to question him (eg Sue Grays salary).

This imperial attitude does nothing to endear him to people - many of whom voted for him.

Its a really unlikeable character trait.

Chersfrozenface · 26/09/2024 14:55

Pictures of the "room" when it was up for sale.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/inside-18-35-million-penthouse-144440550.html

Floral Court, Covent Garden - should you fancy a more modest gaff in the same building, here you go
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/151919855#/?channel=RES_NEW

This one does have a "roof terrace" AKA a rather narrow balcony.
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/140440835#/?channel=RES_BUY

EasternStandard · 26/09/2024 14:42

Getonwitit · 26/09/2024 14:40

Keir and children didn't live in a 2 bed on the 10th floor of a tower block before they moved to NO10. Pretty sure they would have had a room at home their son could study in.

I know right. What is the supposed noise anyway

No one is camping outside Keir's door. He did actually do campaigning, press could just turn up to that. So bogus

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