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Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs

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justasking111 · 25/09/2024 14:21

Can't berate Starmer for this but think some parents will be aghast.

"PM suggests £20,000 accommodation donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision' | Evening Standard" https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

PM suggests £20,000 donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision'

Keir Starmer defends his decision to take gifts from Labour peer Lord Alli

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

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Seasaltlady · 26/09/2024 18:18

loulouljh · 25/09/2024 15:51

And meanwhile other kids will be leaving their private schools due to the VAT....

Exactly this!! The hypocrisy is unbelievable! He bashes parents sending their children to private school as giving them an “unfair advantage” and slams them with higher fees than many can’t afford, meanwhile he gives his own son a hugely unfair advantage, when many other students all over the country do not have this luxury, some living in over crowded housing, lots of noise etc etc. His behaviour has been nothing short of awful since he became PM. Such a disappointment.

Cedricsmum · 26/09/2024 18:13

JRSKSSBH · 26/09/2024 18:10

But also utterly oblivious to how rapacious he has been. He seems to see himself as some sort of saint and therefore anything he does as this heavenly higher being is beyond reproach. Instead his snout has been firmly in the trough for years and all the while he was lambasting the tories for corruption.

Absolutely spot on. Couldn’t agree more.

JRSKSSBH · 26/09/2024 18:13

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 13:25

No he didn’t. The whole reason we know about it is because he declared it and it’s all on the Members’ Register website for anyone to see. However much you might argue it’s ethically wrong, no attempt has been made to deceive.

I think you'll find that the descriptions attached to items on the register are designed to be opaque. So either Rayner or Reeves described cash for access .. sorry ... I mean cash for parties and clothes as being to support their parliamentary duties.

JRSKSSBH · 26/09/2024 18:10

Cedricsmum · 25/09/2024 19:48

Isn’t he the gift that just keeps on giving? Vile, arrogant and grabby.

But also utterly oblivious to how rapacious he has been. He seems to see himself as some sort of saint and therefore anything he does as this heavenly higher being is beyond reproach. Instead his snout has been firmly in the trough for years and all the while he was lambasting the tories for corruption.

caringcarer · 26/09/2024 17:25

iwishihadknownmore · 26/09/2024 14:07

Tories shut down all the libraries.

In London there are loads of libraries open.

caringcarer · 26/09/2024 17:23

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 13:25

No he didn’t. The whole reason we know about it is because he declared it and it’s all on the Members’ Register website for anyone to see. However much you might argue it’s ethically wrong, no attempt has been made to deceive.

He deceived parliament and by default the public as to the true value of accommodation. If you accept a gift work £40k and list it as £20k how is that not deception?

EasternStandard · 26/09/2024 16:31

Happyher · 26/09/2024 16:21

He’s declared it as per the rules as should do all MPs. He hasn’t tried to hide it. So he’s done nothing wrong. In view of many other declarations from MPs of all parties it’s a non story unless you highlight everything declared by everyone else. Sorry but these attempts by the right wing media trying to make out Starmer is as bad as the Tories who used our tax payments as their personal bank account are getting ridiculous and boring now

Nice try but it won't help him much

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 16:30

justasking111 · 26/09/2024 16:21

She could have paid them a winter fuel allowance instead 🤭

Yes, good point,,,😀

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 16:30

nearlylovemyusername · 26/09/2024 16:26

@@Josephinesnapoleon

Leave it, it's zealotry based on (as always) lack of education and poor comprehension. You have no chance to win, no matter how factual you are.

Yes you’re right but bloody hell. It’s mind boggling.

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 16:29

Happyher · 26/09/2024 16:21

He’s declared it as per the rules as should do all MPs. He hasn’t tried to hide it. So he’s done nothing wrong. In view of many other declarations from MPs of all parties it’s a non story unless you highlight everything declared by everyone else. Sorry but these attempts by the right wing media trying to make out Starmer is as bad as the Tories who used our tax payments as their personal bank account are getting ridiculous and boring now

Confused
BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 16:26

MoneyNeverSleeps · 26/09/2024 16:22

Find a quiet place to bone up.

On what?

nearlylovemyusername · 26/09/2024 16:26

@@Josephinesnapoleon

Leave it, it's zealotry based on (as always) lack of education and poor comprehension. You have no chance to win, no matter how factual you are.

justasking111 · 26/09/2024 16:23

MoneyNeverSleeps · 26/09/2024 16:22

Find a quiet place to bone up.

There's a place in Covent Garden going spare

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MoneyNeverSleeps · 26/09/2024 16:22

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 16:19

The principle is precisely the same. I don’t need educating, thank you.

Find a quiet place to bone up.

Happyher · 26/09/2024 16:21

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 15:48

Um no money changed hands as it was a freebie, that’s the whole point of the issue.

do you really not understand? Do you not understand why politicians can’t accept gifts of value? Any government officials. Senior people in large companies? Most companies do not allow gifts like this, inc in the uk. Due to anti bribery laws.

anti bribery laws cover both monetary gifts and gifts of high value to the recipient. If the recipient accepts it gives a potential for them to owe something back. Something that favours the giver. Something in this case only a prime minister could push for.

Of course he has to bloody declare it. Just because it wasn’t cash in a brown envelope under the table doesn’t change that. He has to be open due to anti bribery laws and the risk of corruption.

He’s declared it as per the rules as should do all MPs. He hasn’t tried to hide it. So he’s done nothing wrong. In view of many other declarations from MPs of all parties it’s a non story unless you highlight everything declared by everyone else. Sorry but these attempts by the right wing media trying to make out Starmer is as bad as the Tories who used our tax payments as their personal bank account are getting ridiculous and boring now

justasking111 · 26/09/2024 16:21

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 16:14

Yeah and 50k a year on stationary and postage. With 70k constituents. So she spent on average 700 quid a per person year writing ro each and ever one of them. Which is what, 2 letters a day? Every single day…she sent every single constituent two written letters.

Anyone buying?

She could have paid them a winter fuel allowance instead 🤭

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MoneyNeverSleeps · 26/09/2024 16:20

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 16:18

I’m sorry but none of us are here to educate you. Please spend time reading up. Individual donations are not the same. Far from it.

Spot on Josephine….

24hoursfromtulsa · 26/09/2024 16:20

Eh? £50k divided between 70,000 is 70p per constituent, not £700!

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 16:19

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 16:18

I’m sorry but none of us are here to educate you. Please spend time reading up. Individual donations are not the same. Far from it.

The principle is precisely the same. I don’t need educating, thank you.

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 16:18

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 16:16

I’m not in the least confused. The principle is precisely the same.

I’m sorry but none of us are here to educate you. Please spend time reading up. Individual donations are not the same. Far from it.

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 16:16

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 16:15

You do understand ww are talking about individual donations and not party ones? As you appear confused.

I’m not in the least confused. The principle is precisely the same.

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 16:15

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 16:12

it is illegal. Starmer is a lawyer, he knows it is illegal.

It isn’t illegal. It’s the way political parties are funded in the UK, if you want it made illegal we’ll have to make the political system taxpayer funded.

This what one donor has given the Conservative Party. What do you suppose he’s got in return? All those millions, what would those buy?

https://amp.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/06/frank-hester-donated-further-5m-to-tories-in-january-figures-show

You do understand ww are talking about individual donations and not party ones? As you appear confused.

Josephinesnapoleon · 26/09/2024 16:14

justasking111 · 26/09/2024 16:07

Don't know how she would have repaid a loan of that size

"Siobhain McDonagh - Wikipedia" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siobhain_McDonagh

Yeah and 50k a year on stationary and postage. With 70k constituents. So she spent on average 700 quid a per person year writing ro each and ever one of them. Which is what, 2 letters a day? Every single day…she sent every single constituent two written letters.

Anyone buying?

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2024 16:12

it is illegal. Starmer is a lawyer, he knows it is illegal.

It isn’t illegal. It’s the way political parties are funded in the UK, if you want it made illegal we’ll have to make the political system taxpayer funded.

This what one donor has given the Conservative Party. What do you suppose he’s got in return? All those millions, what would those buy?

https://amp.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/06/frank-hester-donated-further-5m-to-tories-in-january-figures-show

Frank Hester donated further £5m to Tories in January, figures show | Frank Hester | The Guardian

Data also shows party accepted £150,000 from Hester days after comments about Diane Abbott were revealed

https://amp.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/06/frank-hester-donated-further-5m-to-tories-in-january-figures-show

justasking111 · 26/09/2024 16:07

nearlylovemyusername · 26/09/2024 15:50

Starmer's son got it cheaply.

Another Labour MP got "interest free loan" of £1.2m
Lord Alli loaned Labour MP £1.2m to buy a house with her dying sister (msn.com)

All for free, out of goodness of Lord Alli's heart

Don't know how she would have repaid a loan of that size

"Siobhain McDonagh - Wikipedia" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siobhain_McDonagh

Siobhain McDonagh - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siobhain_McDonagh

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