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Trump shooting - odd? Staged?

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NChange10 · 20/07/2024 17:17

I haven't seen the footage.
But apparently he threw his fist up and said fight fight fight.

Does it look like a normal reaction? Wouldn't you try and move away fast?

Do people think it's staged? Or is the world so strange now I'm just reading too much into it.

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scalt · 31/07/2024 08:18

Is politics any more insane than it ever was?

We need a new slogan: "Make politics boring again!"

1dayatatime · 23/07/2024 12:31

NChange10 · 23/07/2024 04:48

Apologies for starting this thread.
I didn't look at the footage as politics seems so stressful that I couldn't face it. It's clearly not staged. Politics is just so insane these days nothing makes much sense anymore. I truly fear for the world our kids are growing up in. Since 2016 all I've told my DD is awful things happening in politics.

Can you now see how fake news and conspiracy theories start and how damaging they are.

upinaballoon · 23/07/2024 12:23

NChange10 · 23/07/2024 04:48

Apologies for starting this thread.
I didn't look at the footage as politics seems so stressful that I couldn't face it. It's clearly not staged. Politics is just so insane these days nothing makes much sense anymore. I truly fear for the world our kids are growing up in. Since 2016 all I've told my DD is awful things happening in politics.

Is politics any more insane than it ever was?
I think I was taught that the assassination of Arch-Duke Ferdinand was the act which triggered the War To End All Wars.
What about Hitler's rise to power in the 1920s/30s? Sane?

Tell DD that since 2016 the world had to deal with a pandemic and although many countries made mistakes they also learned from those mistakes and put some energy into finding vaccines and thereby saved lots of lives, too. That's a starter for half-decent things that have happened in politics.

I knew a woman who had a baby in 1942. I wonder what she thought about the world she was bringing her child into.

SpicyKitty · 23/07/2024 09:56

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noblegiraffe · 23/07/2024 09:12

He didn’t attend his funeral.

Linzi2377 · 23/07/2024 08:53

Scarletrunner · 23/07/2024 05:17

I didn’t think the ‘ if I hadn’t turned my head at that moment’ comments were true. He was looking over his right shoulder quite a while before his ear was hurt.
I can’t believe he had nothing to do or say to the family of the poor man who was killed.

Well thats lies..he said at the convention hes spoken daily with them and also raised millions and of course attending his funeral

Scarletrunner · 23/07/2024 05:19

I remember the bombing of the Brighton Hotel when M Thatcher came out and spoke to journalists live on tv -that was impressive.

Scarletrunner · 23/07/2024 05:17

I didn’t think the ‘ if I hadn’t turned my head at that moment’ comments were true. He was looking over his right shoulder quite a while before his ear was hurt.
I can’t believe he had nothing to do or say to the family of the poor man who was killed.

honestyISkind · 23/07/2024 05:02

Just read your update accepting it wasn’t fake.

NChange10 · 23/07/2024 04:48

Apologies for starting this thread.
I didn't look at the footage as politics seems so stressful that I couldn't face it. It's clearly not staged. Politics is just so insane these days nothing makes much sense anymore. I truly fear for the world our kids are growing up in. Since 2016 all I've told my DD is awful things happening in politics.

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NChange10 · 20/07/2024 17:17

I haven't seen the footage.
But apparently he threw his fist up and said fight fight fight.

Does it look like a normal reaction? Wouldn't you try and move away fast?

Do people think it's staged? Or is the world so strange now I'm just reading too much into it.

I think that, first, Trump unfortunately believes he's invulnerable - his whole life has illustrated that. Second, Trump is basically a showman, all about performance.

Mmhmmn · 22/07/2024 23:44

Just watch the footage to better inform opinion. It’ll be on YouTube or news sites. Lots of things are odd. People react differently to abnormal situations and surprises. It’s a funny old world. Doesn’t mean there’s a conspiracy behind it 🤷🏻‍♀️

Notaflippinclue · 22/07/2024 23:40

He may not be a die hard redneck but he is pretty barmy

ElleneAsanto · 21/07/2024 18:36

@Tracevu 🎩Chapeau for top flouncing.

I hope you get a good cut of hay. Good to hear from a US farmer who isn’t a diehard redneck Republican.

Tracevu · 21/07/2024 17:17

Thanks for letting me know where this formerly unknown (to me) forum exists. A quick search reveals that what was once a useful information sharing forum for "mums" is now a reich wing, transphobic echo chamber. We have enough of those on our side of the pond for me to want to import any more of that homophobic, Know Nothing tripe. See all y'all, bye.

79Helene · 21/07/2024 17:14

@Tracevu
I have hayfields to irrigate so I need to leave this apologia circle jerk behind.
Everything aside, that is one of the best flounces I've ever seen on MN.

noblegiraffe · 21/07/2024 16:58

Do you know that this is a mainly British website?

Tracevu · 21/07/2024 16:55

To be very clear, I clearly do not believe Trump was hit by anything. The fact that the story changed from him being hit by an AR-15 round to him being hit by shards of plastic was reported by two separate news outlets (one of them Newsmax) at the scene though it is certainly being challenged online now. Whoever is shepherding this story could not keep up the conceit that he had been hit by an AR-15 round as too many retired military sharpshooters/snipers (including two I consulted with) have insisted that the resultant wound would likely have removed most if not all of Trump's ear and likely damaged his face also. Since Trump is no longer wearing a Maxipad on his ear and no wound is visible, that clearly did not happen.

My hayfields await. Continue apologizing for an amoral accomplice to murder who's happy to sacrifice anyone (including his own supporters) to fit his agenda. Since everyone here who has responded is an apologist for tail-wagging (which statistically is getting more implausible by the response), I'm beginning to doubt that any time spent here is worthwhile. Surely hope that the one in eight Trump supporters who believe the event was staged are now former Trump supporters. They should be.

FuzzyStripes · 21/07/2024 16:46

helpfulperson · 21/07/2024 09:50

I must admit when I saw the footage my first thought was that it looked very staged. The audience was just so calm. But I can't believe even Trump would do that.

People usually are calm when shootings begin because they are prepared for it or expecting it, with their attention elsewhere. It takes a while to realise what the sound is, to realise what is happening and for the panic to set in.

dottiehens · 21/07/2024 16:41

So funny that the lefties are willing to embarrass themselves with conspiracy theories in desperation. Something they always say is for lower intellect people. Which is what they are when talking this type of nonsense.

Tracevu · 21/07/2024 16:40

Except no photo shows his hand "covered with blood", no photo shows any blood on his white shirt and no photo shows a damaged and still profusely bleeding ear wound. Because there is no "there" there. He might have gotten some of that pro wrestling fake blood on his hand but it is scarcely visible and entirely invisible in the photo I initially posted.

I have hayfields to irrigate so I need to leave this apologia circle jerk behind. Y'all carry on. As for Trump keeping anything private like a medical report or an attending physicians' press conference that would have benefitted him politically, you folks seem to be dipping into Trump's inexhaustible crushed Adderall supply.

Remember: speed kills and not just innocent bystanders.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 21/07/2024 16:38

Callalllaaammma · 21/07/2024 14:58

This is just conspiricy bullshit - he was shot in the ear, a bystander was shot, two wounded and the gunman was shot dead. Any other explination is pure fantasy.

Yes, this.

People mistakenly think that US security must be water-tight and totally on the ball at all times, when the reality is they are human beings, prone to screw-ups and incompetence like everyone else. Trump can't hold rallies indoors because nowhere will deal with him because he never pays his bills, so he's left doing these things in the open air, which makes security all the more awkward.

A version of Hanlon's Razor - "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence"

All this stuff about being hit by glass shards is nonsense. Neither teleprompter shows any sign of damage. Both were 100% intact while he's being ushered off stage. People in the crowd were hit, one man was killed, the gunman was shot dead. Are people seriously suggesting the gunman was set-up as a patsy rather than just being a fairly poor shot, using a weapon that isn't a precision sniper rifle, and either miscalculating, being too much of a bag of nerves to shoot accurately, or possibly even just using a weapon with poorly calibrated and dialled-in sighting?

He's an amateur, and made an amateurish attempt at assassinating an amateurish politician, aided and abetted by amateurish security.

Linzi2377 · 21/07/2024 16:38

You went from “not a drop of blood” to hardy any 😂 bore off..it wasnt staged

noblegiraffe · 21/07/2024 16:30

neither Trump's hand nor his white shirt have a drop of blood on them

Except the photo posted where he clearly has blood on his hand.

But don't let that stop you.