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What did the Conservatives ever do for us ? AKA lets apportion blame where it is due [smile]

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Dymaxion · 11/07/2024 20:41

After 14 long years of Conservative government, we now have another Party at the helm. I can't help feeling that a lot of what has occurred under the Conservatives will be quickly blamed on the Labour party, who have only been in power for a week, so thought it might be wise to start a thread summarising the Conservatives legacy ?

To start,

  1. Brexit is a fairly obvious one, the way in which this was handled by senior Conservative's was absolutely shocking.
  2. Liz Truss's mini budget, what was your interest rate pre September 2022 and what is it now ?
  3. The NHS, and social care in crisis.
  4. Prison and court systems/probabtion in absolute tatters and fit to burst.

Feel free to add your own Smile

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ApricotPeony · 12/07/2024 14:34

Iffx · 11/07/2024 21:57

Cameron told us to vote remain.
Corbyn said nothing.

I blame Bojo for brexit - a high profile, charismatic campaign from him. To a lesser extent, I also blame Corbyn. He could have stood with Cameron and together they could have united most voters. He just said nothing. He was complicit.

Cameron should have never held that stupid referendum in the first place. The fact that he wanted to Remain makes it even more idiotic that he's accidentally bumbled us out of the single market. All on the Tory watch

molly1995 · 12/07/2024 14:26

Does it matter? People have been posting non stop about how amaaaazinggggg things will be one labour are in. Ok. They're in. Let's look out for these great things to come and stfu about a party who isn't in power anymore?
Every other thread has to be about this- get over it, they're out. Can't change the past. But as usual, people are posting what they DID do and being shot down 😂 why ask?!

Apileofballyhoo · 12/07/2024 13:29

Unlawfully prorogued parliament. Awarded contracts to ferry compamny with no ships because of lack of due diligence... I wonder how many things like this we don't know about.

Zonder · 12/07/2024 13:28

Oldcroneandthreewitches · 12/07/2024 12:06

Well I’ve just this second heard Keir Starmer is considering letting prisoners out early if they have served 40% of their sentence - to ease over population of prisons.

I mean that’s going to be great seeing your rapist walking about even earlier but yay… at least the Tory’s are out…..

Oh dear, you're a bit behind the times with this one. Helpful link up thread from @DuncinToffee about when the Tories announced this.

Hedgeoffressian · 12/07/2024 13:11

upinaballoon · 12/07/2024 12:54

When Rishi Sunak was doing the eat-out-to-help-out-nice-bloke-smiling-at-folk-in-cafes-photo-opportunity do you think that was his very own personal idea or do you think it was Tory advisors' idea. "Rishi, we need some good publicity. We've got an idea for you."

He did more than eat out to help out and you know it. What about furlow for example? Without that many businesses would have gone under and people would have lost everything. But that fact is conveniently lost on people like you. If you think Labour will do better then take a look at what is currently happening in France - that’s what we now have to look forward to. It’s a mess. Give it a few years and people will be embarrassed to admit they voted Labour back into government.

DuncinToffee · 12/07/2024 13:09

upinaballoon · 12/07/2024 12:54

When Rishi Sunak was doing the eat-out-to-help-out-nice-bloke-smiling-at-folk-in-cafes-photo-opportunity do you think that was his very own personal idea or do you think it was Tory advisors' idea. "Rishi, we need some good publicity. We've got an idea for you."

We know Sunak didn't consult the Government's scientific advisers

DuncinToffee · 12/07/2024 13:04

The Conservative government promised to build 9 new prisons in 2015

Bit like the 40 new hospitals they promised

What did the Conservatives ever do for us ? AKA lets apportion blame where it is due [smile]
upinaballoon · 12/07/2024 13:00

I blame no-one for eat out to help out. I got a half-cost scone and tea in Cromer in return for going out with a mask on and up to my eyes in that nasty stuff we all kept having to anoint ourselves with.

When I do a tiny wee at the supermarket Ladies I now wash my hands in every direction and sing 'Happy Birthday' 10 times while I do it, with the Govey Gove in mind. The Tories have made us more attentive to our hand hygiene.

upinaballoon · 12/07/2024 12:54

Narcsisinheritancename · 12/07/2024 11:46

To be fair to him, he did an ok job in difficult circumstances. What he didn’t do was acknowledge and set aside his privilege to really understand the hardship experienced but many. He was too out of touch and it’s only after his loss that I’m seeing any signs of humanity and humility.

When Rishi Sunak was doing the eat-out-to-help-out-nice-bloke-smiling-at-folk-in-cafes-photo-opportunity do you think that was his very own personal idea or do you think it was Tory advisors' idea. "Rishi, we need some good publicity. We've got an idea for you."

upinaballoon · 12/07/2024 12:40

dontcallmelen · 12/07/2024 12:18

Prisoners being released early was all over the news weeks ago whilst the Tories were still the government,mainly because the prisons are at bursting point this is not something Labour has just decided to do.

My understanding is that the Tories were looking to do it, too. I heard Rory Stewart on radio this morning - interesting.

dontcallmelen · 12/07/2024 12:18

Oldcroneandthreewitches · 12/07/2024 12:06

Well I’ve just this second heard Keir Starmer is considering letting prisoners out early if they have served 40% of their sentence - to ease over population of prisons.

I mean that’s going to be great seeing your rapist walking about even earlier but yay… at least the Tory’s are out…..

Prisoners being released early was all over the news weeks ago whilst the Tories were still the government,mainly because the prisons are at bursting point this is not something Labour has just decided to do.

Oldcroneandthreewitches · 12/07/2024 12:06

Well I’ve just this second heard Keir Starmer is considering letting prisoners out early if they have served 40% of their sentence - to ease over population of prisons.

I mean that’s going to be great seeing your rapist walking about even earlier but yay… at least the Tory’s are out…..

ajandjjmum · 12/07/2024 12:05

Furlough - although I didn't benefit, it helped many through a global pandemic.

ThePerkyDuck · 12/07/2024 12:01

Year by year huge cuts everywhere: police, NHS, education, social services. I doubt even with a very competent government all of the above will ever be completely restored as it was pre Tory government.

Narcsisinheritancename · 12/07/2024 11:46

upinaballoon · 11/07/2024 23:02

Could it be argued that the Chancellor Rishi Sunak didn't do too badly trying to manage the financial situation at the time of lockdown, when many people weren't going to work. I don't suppose it was perfect but it wasn't all regarded as rubbish at the time.

To be fair to him, he did an ok job in difficult circumstances. What he didn’t do was acknowledge and set aside his privilege to really understand the hardship experienced but many. He was too out of touch and it’s only after his loss that I’m seeing any signs of humanity and humility.

Narcsisinheritancename · 12/07/2024 11:44

Meadowtrees · 11/07/2024 23:13

Gay marriage.
covid vaccine

Gay marriage? Beginning to end? Genuine question. Or did they just sign off the hard work of others? I can’t remember.

Narcsisinheritancename · 12/07/2024 11:42

upinaballoon · 11/07/2024 22:45

They got a Covid vaccine sorted out faster than other countries and probably others parties here.

That was one nationally positive thing (globally not so sure) and that was really down to researchers and the NHS, but the rest of the response was a shit show.

verdantverdure · 12/07/2024 09:03

upinaballoon · 11/07/2024 22:45

They got a Covid vaccine sorted out faster than other countries and probably others parties here.

They made a big show of the first vaccine in an arm in December 2020. But when did most of us get ours? July?

Most European countries had a better vaccinated population than us by December 2021.

KnittedCardi · 11/07/2024 23:21

Liz Truss gate is an interesting one. No-one has yet explained how that budget managed to impact all developed economies in the same way. Everyone else's rates increased at the same time and at the same rate too. Was it just a case of bad timing?

Meadowtrees · 11/07/2024 23:13

Gay marriage.
covid vaccine

BettyBoobles · 11/07/2024 23:06

Iffx · 11/07/2024 21:58

Education was also well fucked before 2010. Teachers being attacked, on ADs etc (I know them).

I've been teaching since 2007. I cannot even begin to describe how much worse things are in schools under a Tory government. It's been a complete shambles.

upinaballoon · 11/07/2024 23:02

Could it be argued that the Chancellor Rishi Sunak didn't do too badly trying to manage the financial situation at the time of lockdown, when many people weren't going to work. I don't suppose it was perfect but it wasn't all regarded as rubbish at the time.

upinaballoon · 11/07/2024 22:58

In the last year interest rates for savers definitely improved. I blame no-one. Maybe the Tories had a hand in that improvement. Perhaps it was the Bank of England wot dunnit.

upinaballoon · 11/07/2024 22:55

Conservative Mrs. May had something in her initial 2017 manifesto about care for the elderly. She had the guts not to run away from the topic. There was such a fuss about it. I think it was called 'the granny tax' or something like that. It was taken out of the manifesto. Blame goes to other members of her party, the bastard press who wittered on and on about it and the pratting sheep in this country who baaed what the pratting press told them to.