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Reform are getting a shitload of voters

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HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 04/07/2024 23:27

I have not voted
Reform and live in a safe tory seat But I voted
Lib dem tactical vote

I said ages Ago on here the reform would do really well and was shouted down.

Same as brexit, no one will admit voting for reform but
They still do it in droves it seems.

I'm Willing to bet they
Might win an election in four years at this rate!!

Scary
Times

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ForestForever · 05/07/2024 03:01

BBKP · 05/07/2024 02:56

Reform have only won one seat. You start this by saying you haven't voted… then you say you have voted?

I think the way it’s written is a bit confusing. I read the same as you at first but re read it and believe the OP is saying that they didn’t vote reform and live in a Tory stronghold area but they voted Lib Dem themselves.

BBKP · 05/07/2024 02:56

Reform have only won one seat. You start this by saying you haven't voted… then you say you have voted?

BabyFedUp445 · 05/07/2024 02:51

My rich retired FIL voted for both Brexit and Reform. He didn't go to uni, had a job that isn't stressful or long hours, nowadays is extremely poorly paid, but he bought a house at 22 and retired on an absolutely enormous pension at 55.

Instead of voting with some thought for his own kids and grandchildren's future, given how privileged he is, he voted Reform because he doesn't want higher taxes and wants immigrants to leave. Selfish and racist. Those are the Reform voters.

As an immigrant myself and mother of his grandchild, I have no words. Neither does DP. We just never bring up the topic of politics. I'm probably the only immigrant he's ever even had a conversation with but I guess my kind are just scum. I make 4 times my English DP's salary, pay a ton of taxes but somehow my lot is lazy and cheat the system...sure.

Myneighboursnorlax · 05/07/2024 02:48

sashh · 05/07/2024 02:28

I'm watching BBC News.

They have a graph showing %gains and losses, they have a % for reform.

How does that work?

Reform are effectively the renamed Brexit Party, so any % gains are compared to their results last time.

nomoretoriesforme · 05/07/2024 02:47

crumblingschools · 05/07/2024 02:22

@nomoretoriesforme and why is that good news? What are their policies?

You can find what they stand for on their website. Good news because the political landscape is changing, finally

babyproblems · 05/07/2024 02:45

SkyeB86 · 04/07/2024 23:29

Farage tries and tries, never gets far. I wouldn't worry, he's unlikely to improve with time.

dont assume this AT ALL. We live in France- let Le Pen be a warning to you..

Infact a problem with the demise of the Toroes is that once we have burnt through labour in a few years time, what centre options will you have left in the UK when the time comes to vote?? This vacuum of the centre means after that is over you will be left with extremes to choose from. That is what has happened here. A shocking truth that I will share with you and hope you don’t forget is that we see here in the latest election is that people are more afraid of the left than they are of the right.

I am v v happy for a Labour victory though and think starmer is a very measured man!

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/07/2024 02:44

But why is Farage's wife in frozen costume ?

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 02:42

sashh · 05/07/2024 02:28

I'm watching BBC News.

They have a graph showing %gains and losses, they have a % for reform.

How does that work?

The share of the overall vote one?

TempestTost · 05/07/2024 02:39

Those do seem to be the places they concentrated on most, which makes sense.

Whoooois · 05/07/2024 02:39

TuckingFerrible · 04/07/2024 23:40

Reform 👏💪

Yes!!! I also voted reform👏

Grantshappsotherusrnames · 05/07/2024 02:37

TempestTost · 05/07/2024 02:35

If you are analyzing the voting patterns you rather do need to look at the % of the vote.

Labour can gain many more seats with a split vote, without necessarily gaining many more votes.

This is basic stuff political parties want to know. Who voted for them, wo didn't, and why.

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It would appear that the Labour party strategists have played a blinder in securing the biggest swings in the seats where they needed the biggest swings.

The swing in Telford was the biggest ever from Con to Lab, I say was, because that is old news now as there at least 2 seats declared since that have had biggest swings.

TempestTost · 05/07/2024 02:37

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 05/07/2024 02:23

You and your mission to use every racial slur you can are quite transparent.

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I transparently am tired of the racist shit that gets pushed on people who are not white by those who think they are more enlightened and can tell them how they should vote and what they can think.

TempestTost · 05/07/2024 02:35

Grantshappsotherusrnames · 05/07/2024 02:27

The UK electoral system is first past the post, so the share of the vote is irrelevant, all that matters is the number of seats won.

Now one could make an arguement as the lib dems have done for many years for an alternative voting system, indeed we had a referendum on such an idea not so many years ago.

FPTP was shown to be the will of the people.

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If you are analyzing the voting patterns you rather do need to look at the % of the vote.

Labour can gain many more seats with a split vote, without necessarily gaining many more votes.

This is basic stuff political parties want to know. Who voted for them, wo didn't, and why.

sashh · 05/07/2024 02:28

I'm watching BBC News.

They have a graph showing %gains and losses, they have a % for reform.

How does that work?

Grantshappsotherusrnames · 05/07/2024 02:27

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 05/07/2024 02:23

You and your mission to use every racial slur you can are quite transparent.

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This thread is about reform.

Grantshappsotherusrnames · 05/07/2024 02:27

TempestTost · 05/07/2024 02:20

I am looking at % of vote. How many people changed their votes, and who. Not the number of seats.

I may be behind the results at this point though, I'm not watching any more.

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The UK electoral system is first past the post, so the share of the vote is irrelevant, all that matters is the number of seats won.

Now one could make an arguement as the lib dems have done for many years for an alternative voting system, indeed we had a referendum on such an idea not so many years ago.

FPTP was shown to be the will of the people.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 05/07/2024 02:23

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You and your mission to use every racial slur you can are quite transparent.

crumblingschools · 05/07/2024 02:22

@nomoretoriesforme and why is that good news? What are their policies?

nomoretoriesforme · 05/07/2024 02:20

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/07/2024 02:18

and Reform have their first seat

YESSS

TempestTost · 05/07/2024 02:20

Grantshappsotherusrnames · 05/07/2024 02:07

Labour may yet end up with their biggest ever majority.

The Tories will certainly have fewer MPs than in anyone whose alive's lifetime.
I am not sure how you reached your conclusion.

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I am looking at % of vote. How many people changed their votes, and who. Not the number of seats.

I may be behind the results at this point though, I'm not watching any more.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/07/2024 02:18

and Reform have their first seat

TempestTost · 05/07/2024 02:16

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Grantshappsotherusrnames · 05/07/2024 02:12

2 of Reform's 13 seats projected by the exit poll were Barnsley N and S.
They weren't particularly close in the end.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 05/07/2024 02:09

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Educate yourself on why some people from ethnic minority backgrounds might behave in a way which is anti ethnic minorities.

Grantshappsotherusrnames · 05/07/2024 02:07

TempestTost · 05/07/2024 02:05

I mean - the numbers, to me, look like Labour hasn't really gained much. So, maybe a lot of the same voters they had last time.

What's changed is people who voted Tory last time, and are pissed off at them, clearly did not feel like Labour was a better bet. So they've gone for a protest vote, either Reform or Lib Dem mainly.

It looks to me like a big FU to Labour and the Tories.

Labour may yet end up with their biggest ever majority.

The Tories will certainly have fewer MPs than in anyone whose alive's lifetime.
I am not sure how you reached your conclusion.