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Reform are getting a shitload of voters

737 replies

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 04/07/2024 23:27

I have not voted
Reform and live in a safe tory seat But I voted
Lib dem tactical vote

I said ages Ago on here the reform would do really well and was shouted down.

Same as brexit, no one will admit voting for reform but
They still do it in droves it seems.

I'm Willing to bet they
Might win an election in four years at this rate!!

Scary
Times

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LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 05:59

People who do not vote have no right to an opinion

Calm down. She said she voted.

But not for reform.

HarrietTheSpyglass · 05/07/2024 05:59

Reform are only getting votes because they’re the only party that want to close our borders. We should be like Australia so I get it! At the moment we let anyone in, speak English? No? Oh well, come on in, here’s a house and benefits. Stay as long as you like. Have a British passport, it’s on us!

good on them for taking a hard line. Most people only voted labour because they didn’t want the tories in again. It’ll be just as ju has a shit show. Our entire government is absolute shite and it’ll never get better

Sloejelly · 05/07/2024 05:57

How is that extra £3,500,000,000 a week for the NHS working out for you?

Let’s argue on facts. You added an extra zero there. The promise was £350 million extra per week. The NHS is currently receiving more than double that amount in extra funding since the Brexit referendum. It is a myth that throwing money at the NHS will solve its problems. It is a money pit.

Reform is doing well because the Tories moved to the centre and failed to address disenfranchised voters on the right. Just look at their complete failure to address immigration.

I am not a Reform voter, I am a centrist who thinks a change of government was needed, but am concerned that Labour landslide will mean the new government will not be not be able to be held effectively to account.

Sondheimisademigod · 05/07/2024 05:54

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 04/07/2024 23:27

I have not voted
Reform and live in a safe tory seat But I voted
Lib dem tactical vote

I said ages Ago on here the reform would do really well and was shouted down.

Same as brexit, no one will admit voting for reform but
They still do it in droves it seems.

I'm Willing to bet they
Might win an election in four years at this rate!!

Scary
Times

People who do not vote have no right to an opinion.

hattie43 · 05/07/2024 05:51

Reform will get stronger and stronger , they've only been ' live ' for a few weeks .

whyhavetheygotsomany · 05/07/2024 05:48

I wanted them to win

whyhavetheygotsomany · 05/07/2024 05:46

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 04/07/2024 23:27

I have not voted
Reform and live in a safe tory seat But I voted
Lib dem tactical vote

I said ages Ago on here the reform would do really well and was shouted down.

Same as brexit, no one will admit voting for reform but
They still do it in droves it seems.

I'm Willing to bet they
Might win an election in four years at this rate!!

Scary
Times

In four years there will be more migrants than us so I very much doubt they will vote reform

Maybe2024 · 05/07/2024 05:45

Bjorkdidit · 05/07/2024 04:57

Reform may only get 13 seats, however they are coming second to Labour in MANY constituencies, suggesting millions must have voted for them. Reform have decimated the Tory vote everywhere, for those who are not paying attention. Had it not been for FPTP, we would be looking at Reform being far more influential on a national scale

This. Reform have nearly 15% of the vote overall, that's a huge amount. More than the Lib Dems on 11% and not that far behind the Conservatives on 22%. If it wasn't for the FPTP system they'd have dozens of MPs. Terrifying.

Yes, it is terrifying.

First time that I have been grateful for FPTP.

NotJinxingAnything · 05/07/2024 05:37

Gettingbysomehow · 05/07/2024 05:00

Prime ministers question time will be a riot with Nigel Farage as an MP. If the European Parliament was anything to go by.

If he's as lazy as he was in Europe, Farage will be a very easy target.

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 05:25

caringcarer · 05/07/2024 05:14

Almost 6 million votes but sadly only 4 seats for RUK.

The last figure I saw for share of the popular vote said Reform had 16% so far. That's one in six. It's a significant share of the vote. From nowhere.

I think they're a bad thing. You seem to think they're a good thing. But that's not a vote share any of us can ignore.

It doesn't translate into many seats under FPTP, but that's a good safety mechanism against sudden populist movements.

caringcarer · 05/07/2024 05:14

Almost 6 million votes but sadly only 4 seats for RUK.

Gettingbysomehow · 05/07/2024 05:00

Prime ministers question time will be a riot with Nigel Farage as an MP. If the European Parliament was anything to go by.

Bjorkdidit · 05/07/2024 04:57

Reform may only get 13 seats, however they are coming second to Labour in MANY constituencies, suggesting millions must have voted for them. Reform have decimated the Tory vote everywhere, for those who are not paying attention. Had it not been for FPTP, we would be looking at Reform being far more influential on a national scale

This. Reform have nearly 15% of the vote overall, that's a huge amount. More than the Lib Dems on 11% and not that far behind the Conservatives on 22%. If it wasn't for the FPTP system they'd have dozens of MPs. Terrifying.

spuddy4 · 05/07/2024 04:50

Afloatingvoter · 05/07/2024 04:28

Given that Plaid have won as many seats as Reform, can we expect that they will get equal amounts of coverage?

No one cares in Wales about Plaid so it's unrealistic for the rest of the country to be interested in them.

sashh · 05/07/2024 04:39

Sunak on stage

Afloatingvoter · 05/07/2024 04:28

Given that Plaid have won as many seats as Reform, can we expect that they will get equal amounts of coverage?

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 04:14

Revised exit poll says that Reform now know who all their MPs are.

Oh? That's quite a few.

I hope this will lead to some constructive navel gazing from the grown ups, and not just reflexive "their voters are all racist".

We need to address this. It's been the elephant in the room since the first Trump election and Brexit.

Frogpole · 05/07/2024 04:13

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 04/07/2024 23:27

I have not voted
Reform and live in a safe tory seat But I voted
Lib dem tactical vote

I said ages Ago on here the reform would do really well and was shouted down.

Same as brexit, no one will admit voting for reform but
They still do it in droves it seems.

I'm Willing to bet they
Might win an election in four years at this rate!!

Scary
Times

Jesus H. Christ on a stolen unicycle... OP, do you want to know a secret? Do you want to know how I knew as a statement of fact that you'd be a sycophant for the National Socialist Inn-Gurrr-Lish Worker's Party just from reading your first sentence paragraph wait a minute... is that a haiku? Whatever it's meant to be, don't be surprised when your 'Enter' key files a restraining order against you.

Let ol' Froggie here help you out a little bit.

I have not voted
Reform and live in a safe tory seat But I voted
Lib dem tactical vote
Either you don't comprehend or someone has lied to you about what "tactical voting" means. If you genuinely understood the words you're parroting you'd understand why "tactical voting" in a FPTP/WTA electoral system - especially in a safe seat - is like having a thirty year financial plan of "hope someone buys me a winning lotto ticket ennit lol".

I said ages Ago on here the reform would do really well and was shouted down.
Hmm, I wonder why on Earth that could be? It's certainly not because just like the British Nationalist Party, the National Front, Combat-18, and the British Union of Fascists (a contradiction in terms that makes me physically sick just to type) the "Reform" party aren't actually politicians at all, but rather a group of racist, religiously intolerant, hateful bigots, that's simply not possible...

Same as brexit, no one will admit voting for reform but
They still do it in droves it seems.
Ok... let's have this right, shall we?

No one will "admit" to voting 'leave' because it was an unmitigated fcuking disaster that our grandchildren's children will still be trying to clear up the mess from. I'm assuming you did, so let me ask you this...
How is that extra £3,500,000,000 a week for the NHS working out for you? Not like the whole thing is coming apart at the seams, people calling 999 to have QRF crisis response teams rescue them from the hospitals, right? Or that everyone's fcuking dead because there's no money to treat them with?
How's these new borders that are more secure than the giant security walls to keep the posh, rich, white folks at Glastonbury safe from the unwashed masses going? Has it "stopped da lorry's an dat ennit"? Or is the Tetley's company studying the UKBF trying to make a teabag with even more fcuking holes in it?

I'm Willing to bet they
Might win an election in four years at this rate!!
I'm willing to bet my second biggest tortoise 'might' win an election in four years at this rate - she's quite friendly after all, and has infinitely better dental hygiene than that Farage individual, despite her only having a beak.

If you meant "will" rather than "might", then I'll see you for that bet. I'll put up my 'mortgage free' house, the cars and vehicles, my MOD final salary pension that's already paying out, my salary, valuables, every last thing of value I have ever or will ever own to say that "No, Reform Ltd. are not to to win the next election".

Demonhunter · 05/07/2024 04:11

Where's all the derision for the Reform seats being won people, or is that only reserved for the Northerners who ,"nearly" voted them and not for the Southerners who actually did?

sashh · 05/07/2024 04:10

Portsmouth North, it is the mayor reading out the results in full regalia, but no hat.

Starseeking · 05/07/2024 04:08

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 04:01

13 looks like an over-estimate of their number of seats, but time will tell.

The modelling goes a bit wonky for the smaller parties. It might only be a handful.

Fingers crossed. I misread myself, and thought it was the actual vote, rather than prediction based on exit polls.

That said, Reform voters cannot be dismissed as cranks, protest votes etc; there are too many of them for people not to recognise and acknowledge the significance of the shift.

Reform may only get 13 seats, however they are coming second to Labour in MANY constituencies, suggesting millions must have voted for them. Reform have decimated the Tory vote everywhere, for those who are not paying attention. Had it not been for FPTP, we would be looking at Reform being far more influential on a national scale.

Thingscanonlygetsunk · 05/07/2024 04:03

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 04:01

13 looks like an over-estimate of their number of seats, but time will tell.

The modelling goes a bit wonky for the smaller parties. It might only be a handful.

Revised exit poll says that Reform now know who all their MPs are.

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 04:01

13 looks like an over-estimate of their number of seats, but time will tell.

The modelling goes a bit wonky for the smaller parties. It might only be a handful.

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 04:00

Well he's just been boasting about how he threw his campaign together in a month, powered by elastic bands and bits of twig. I think we are supposed to be awed and inspired and not asking awkward questions about policy.

Thingscanonlygetsunk · 05/07/2024 03:59

Starseeking · 05/07/2024 03:48

Of course they have, nobody should be surprised by the results for Reform other than those who haven't been listening to the disenfranchised of this country.

Nigel Farage has done a very effective job of selling his ideas through sound bites, AND pulling in a younger crowd. Apparently he has a very big following on TikTok.

The only shock for me is that they've only got 13 MP's; I'd have expected more. It's a critical mass of more than enough to make trouble in Parliament. It's perhaps the wake-up call both Labour and the Tories need to seriously engage with all parts of the country.

*No, I didn't vote for Reform; never even voted Conservative!

13 looks like an over-estimate of their number of seats, but time will tell.

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