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Reform are getting a shitload of voters

737 replies

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 04/07/2024 23:27

I have not voted
Reform and live in a safe tory seat But I voted
Lib dem tactical vote

I said ages Ago on here the reform would do really well and was shouted down.

Same as brexit, no one will admit voting for reform but
They still do it in droves it seems.

I'm Willing to bet they
Might win an election in four years at this rate!!

Scary
Times

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DurhamDurham · 05/07/2024 08:01

This thread is showing exactly why people have voted Reform - there's a nasty implication of stupid, working class, northern idiots. Don't worry, the sensible southerners will show them how they should have voted

This - no one learned a thing from Brexit it seems

Absolute this.

I detest Reform with a passion but you will never get people onside by feeling them that they're stupid, ignorant, or God forbid, Northern Hmm

Sloejelly · 05/07/2024 08:01

AhBiscuits · 05/07/2024 07:54

I think a lot of the Reform votes are disgruntled Tories making a protest vote.
In general young people aren't voting for Reform. In 4 years we'll have another 4 years of young people of voting age.

In 4 years you will have the same number of young people of voting age. The current young people will have grown up.

Chersfrozenface · 05/07/2024 08:01

AhBiscuits · 05/07/2024 07:54

I think a lot of the Reform votes are disgruntled Tories making a protest vote.
In general young people aren't voting for Reform. In 4 years we'll have another 4 years of young people of voting age.

Don't be too sure.

Young people's votes were very much a factor in the success of right wing and far right parties in the European Parliament elections.

And read the thread on here about school mock elections. Not all those schoolkids were voting Reform to wind up the teachers. They'll be voting at 18 - or 16 if Labour change the voting age as they've said they would.

Bellsandthistle · 05/07/2024 07:59

DodoTired · 05/07/2024 07:54

Yeah because from previous generations they are used to just be handed whats they perceive is their due, job security, family, automatic respect - turns out one has to work for an opportunity to get these. Just like women and not white men have to.

What? Working class men have never particularly had power or respect. They don’t expect to be handed anything, either, as they are…you know…working.

radiatorbed · 05/07/2024 07:59

Melonportal · 04/07/2024 23:48

This thread is showing exactly why people have voted Reform - there's a nasty implication of stupid, working class, northern idiots. Don't worry, the sensible southerners will show them how they should have voted.

This - no one learned a thing from Brexit it seems.

Hedgeoffressian · 05/07/2024 07:58

Grantshappsotherusrnames · 05/07/2024 07:39

The TV in front of me says that Labour have 410 seats out of 650.
Labour are a centre left party.
Previously the largest party was a right to far right party.

How is that a shift to the right?

What a load of rubbish…

OneForTheToad · 05/07/2024 07:58

Sloejelly · 05/07/2024 07:57

Hand power to a tiny minority party made up of individuals no one actually voted for? Yeah, that worked well in Scotland.

Look to Europe.

OneForTheToad · 05/07/2024 07:57

Hedgeoffressian · 05/07/2024 07:56

But they got more votes than the greens.

Which goes to show that climate change is not the massive topic people bleat on about when it comes to the crunch.

Sloejelly · 05/07/2024 07:57

OneForTheToad · 05/07/2024 07:52

Unless people wake up and vote in any party that will implement Proportional Representation then the UK will forever have two cheeks of the same arse in charge.

Hand power to a tiny minority party made up of individuals no one actually voted for? Yeah, that worked well in Scotland.

socks1107 · 05/07/2024 07:56

AhBiscuits · 05/07/2024 07:54

I think a lot of the Reform votes are disgruntled Tories making a protest vote.
In general young people aren't voting for Reform. In 4 years we'll have another 4 years of young people of voting age.

Not the case for my teens or their friends. All voted reform yesterday, all read the manifesto's and all made their own decisions.

Hedgeoffressian · 05/07/2024 07:56

midgetastic · 05/07/2024 07:46

Reform got fewer seats than they hoped and many expected and didn't get any more than the greens

But they got more votes than the greens.

Devonbabs · 05/07/2024 07:54

paperrocksiscissors · 05/07/2024 07:51

Starmer wins the biggest majority EVER

But he's going to be gone in a year? OK @Devonbabs 😂

Yep. He will be replaced as leader. Labour didn’t win because of Starmer, they won because the conservatives lost. Bet you the vast majority of people who voted labour couldn’t name a single policy (let’s face it Starmer struggled). It wasn’t a vote for Labour it was a vote against the Tories.

You’re naive, to say the least if you don’t understand the people lurking waiting for a 5 year term to make a leadership bid.

DodoTired · 05/07/2024 07:54

Yalta · 05/07/2024 07:47

And what is going to be done for White working class men to make them choose Labour or Conservative in the next election

Probably nothing because being white and a man is seen as a privilege
and yet these people don’t feel privileged.

Yeah because from previous generations they are used to just be handed whats they perceive is their due, job security, family, automatic respect - turns out one has to work for an opportunity to get these. Just like women and not white men have to.

AhBiscuits · 05/07/2024 07:54

I think a lot of the Reform votes are disgruntled Tories making a protest vote.
In general young people aren't voting for Reform. In 4 years we'll have another 4 years of young people of voting age.

Starseeking · 05/07/2024 07:53

Labour have only got 1.7% more of the vote than they did at the last election; while they have won on FPTP, this is not a huge success story for them.

Tory vote collapsed and split between Reform and smaller parties.

At 4m votes for Reform so far, Reform have leapfrogged Lib Dems and are now the third party of the UK. Despite them only having taken 4 seats so far, it's a stunning victory for them.

Reform are getting a shitload of  voters
Reform are getting a shitload of  voters
Reform are getting a shitload of  voters
OneForTheToad · 05/07/2024 07:52

Sloejelly · 05/07/2024 07:46

Because the right vote split and we have a FPTP system.

Unless people wake up and vote in any party that will implement Proportional Representation then the UK will forever have two cheeks of the same arse in charge.

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 07:52

I might have muddled you up with someone else @OneForTheToad - sorry if so.

I don't even trust myself to go back and try to unravel it. I'm so tired. I should just accept I'm too old for this all-nighter stuff.

paperrocksiscissors · 05/07/2024 07:51

Devonbabs · 05/07/2024 07:47

Reform are a lot less scary than the bunch of misogynists who have very few policies we now have in power! Our woman hating new local MP will be making life hard for women and girls in the eork place, in sports and socially. He is keen to cut out freedom of speech. Give me Reform any day. I’m glad Farage won a seat, I’m sad there aren’t more Reform MPs.

The only saving grace is that after 5 years people will undoubtedly know how they screwed up this time. Hopefully Reform will be in a much stronger position to reverse the damage Labour will cause.

Off to the bookies to bet on Starmer being gone within a year.

Starmer wins the biggest majority EVER

But he's going to be gone in a year? OK @Devonbabs 😂

Devonbabs · 05/07/2024 07:51

Farting · 05/07/2024 07:48

No, they won’t think carefully at all. In fact they won’t think, they’ll just do it.

And the bulk of you suckers have no clue, and deserve it.

Yep, all I’ve heard is “We need a change”.

it’s like living in a house where the roof needs replacing. Rather than save for a new roof, we’ve burned down the house and are now living in a soon to be reposted car thinking, well at least the roof doesn’t need fixing!

OneForTheToad · 05/07/2024 07:50

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 06:50

Wanting stricter immigration control does not mean you are a racist.

So it's single issue for you? Reform because immigration?

Who said I support Reform?

DodoTired · 05/07/2024 07:48

It’s actually better that Reform voters stop masquerading as conservatives and just show who they are. Better for everyone in politics to see what’s actually going on.

Farting · 05/07/2024 07:48

Hedgeoffressian · 05/07/2024 07:45

Reform did far better than most were expecting. I certainly didn’t think they would get any seats. Labour need to think very carefully if they are planning massive tax rises for working families who are already struggling with the cost of living and a raid on people’s pensions and savings then people will end up feeling disaffected and they they could be in for a shock at the next election. Look at what’s happening in France at the moment.

No, they won’t think carefully at all. In fact they won’t think, they’ll just do it.

And the bulk of you suckers have no clue, and deserve it.

Devonbabs · 05/07/2024 07:47

Reform are a lot less scary than the bunch of misogynists who have very few policies we now have in power! Our woman hating new local MP will be making life hard for women and girls in the eork place, in sports and socially. He is keen to cut out freedom of speech. Give me Reform any day. I’m glad Farage won a seat, I’m sad there aren’t more Reform MPs.

The only saving grace is that after 5 years people will undoubtedly know how they screwed up this time. Hopefully Reform will be in a much stronger position to reverse the damage Labour will cause.

Off to the bookies to bet on Starmer being gone within a year.

Yalta · 05/07/2024 07:47

Sloejelly · 05/07/2024 07:43

The areas with Reform MPs are all pretty deprived and represent areas with the lowest achieving group in the UK - white working class men.

And what is going to be done for White working class men to make them choose Labour or Conservative in the next election

Probably nothing because being white and a man is seen as a privilege
and yet these people don’t feel privileged.

midgetastic · 05/07/2024 07:46

Reform got fewer seats than they hoped and many expected and didn't get any more than the greens