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Lib Dems - Why don't they have a chance?

64 replies

Lionnose · 02/07/2024 14:27

Just that really? I keep talking to people who say 'I don't really want to vote Labour, I'd rather vote Lib Dem but I'm doing it as a tactical vote as the lib dems don't have a chance'

Maybe it's just I'm talking to a small group of people who all live in the same area so thought I'd ask a wider audience. If everyone who wanted to vote lib dem did would this make them have a chance? I'm sure there is a lot more to it than what I know and I'm interested in hearing more about it.

I saw on a previous thread that they don't have a chance of creating a government is that because they don't have enough MP's with experience and they'd not be able to manage it even if they miraculously won?

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thehousewiththesagegreensofa · 02/07/2024 18:54

This is my issue. Of the manifestos, I align most closely with the LibDems. But I really don't want the Tories to remain in power and we are in a Tory stronghold but which stats suggest could actually swing to Labour in this election. For that to happen, everyone who is in my position needs to actually vote Labour. But then I am voting to end single sex spaces.
Aaahhhh!!! Normally, I am exhausted after the election having been up all night watching the results. I am already losing sleep this week as I just can't decide what to do!

fungipie · 02/07/2024 18:42

just the reality of this awful First Past the Post system. Just depends where you live really.

Saschka · 02/07/2024 18:41

I keep talking to people who say 'I don't really want to vote Labour, I'd rather vote Lib Dem but I'm doing it as a tactical vote as the lib dems don't have a chance'

are you sure they don’t mean “in my constituency, the Lib Dems don’t have a chance”? Because that’s what tactical voting is, not voting Labour in a marginal Tory constituency where the LDs are in second place…

Warmfeet · 02/07/2024 18:33

I used to like Lib Dem, but this lot seem like a bunch of clowns and I really can’t take them seriously.

MakeJamNotWar · 02/07/2024 18:31

Where I live we have a chance of voting the Tory Bastard out - by voting LibDem. So I'll hold my nose and vote LibDem. There's a chance they could even form a credible Opposition party.

Chemenger · 02/07/2024 18:26

It depends on your constituency. Many people want to vote for whoever can beat the incumbent Tory. In some places that will be Labour, in others it might be the Lib Dem. Tactical voting increases the chance of beating the Tory. So if the Tories have 40% of the vote, Labour have 30% the Lib Dem’s have 20% and the greens have 10% if half of both the Lib Dem and Green voters swap to Labour the Tory is beaten. If everyone votes according to their true allegiance then the Tory wins.

APurpleSquirrel · 02/07/2024 18:17

See, I don't get this idea that one decision made by the Lib Dem's 14 years ago; when the majority of those MPs who formed that coalition etc are now no longer MPs/in government / running this time means you'd never ever vote for them again?

GrimDamnFanjo · 02/07/2024 18:05

Shame Labour didnt commit to a LibDem coalition when asked...

Cheesecake53 · 02/07/2024 17:57

fuckthetories2 · 02/07/2024 17:29

For me I'm old enough to remember the 2010 vote and coalition. For me a vote for the Lib Dem's is a vote for the Tories, after the joined forces then, then brexit and increased retirement age followed as a result, which then resulted in 14 years of Tories and the decimation of public services

This.

mightymam · 02/07/2024 17:48

fuckthetories2 · 02/07/2024 17:29

For me I'm old enough to remember the 2010 vote and coalition. For me a vote for the Lib Dem's is a vote for the Tories, after the joined forces then, then brexit and increased retirement age followed as a result, which then resulted in 14 years of Tories and the decimation of public services

Same here. I'll never forgive the LDs for joining forces with the bastard Tories back then. They'll never have my vote again as I don't trust them to do the same again.

ginasevern · 02/07/2024 17:39

The Liberal party (as they used to be known) were pushed to the sidelines once the new Labour party had found its feet in the 1920's and it never really recovered. Then in the 1980's they went through some rather bizarre incarnations, which didn't particularly help their cause.

In 2010 when they finally had a chance of some real power, they jumped into bed with the Tories which was such an unpopular move that they were nearly annihilated. A lot of people still despise them, or at least don't trust them, for that reason.

fuckthetories2 · 02/07/2024 17:29

For me I'm old enough to remember the 2010 vote and coalition. For me a vote for the Lib Dem's is a vote for the Tories, after the joined forces then, then brexit and increased retirement age followed as a result, which then resulted in 14 years of Tories and the decimation of public services

Endofthebeginning · 02/07/2024 17:26

I found I was most aligned with Lib Dem on the vote for policies website so I'm going to vote for them. I don't like Labour at the moment as they have shown they haven't been a great opposition and I would not ever vote for the Tories with everything they have shown themselves to be.

Againname · 02/07/2024 17:23

I've heard some people aren't impressed because of Ed Davey's role in the postmaster scandal (although really Labour, under Blair, and the Conservatives also share the blame for that).

That's an aside though. I think to answer your question it seems like this election is largely people voting Against rather than For.