Lib Dems - Why don't they have a chance?

I vote Lib Dem, luckily for me we moved to an area where it is usually a close run thing between them and the conservatives. This time round it looks like a clear cut win for LD, my only concern is that the local racists are trying to stir up support for Reform and being a rural area near the seaside with very low diversity, there are a lot of racists about.

Ed Davey is about to multiply his 8 seats into 50? 70?

Buffoon that.

Same here.

It’s Lib Dem here to get rid of the tories

Pretty much this - Ed Davey is a buffoon.

If you believe in single sex spaces and that women have rights you can't vote Lib Dem. I'm a previously life long Liberal/Lib Dem /SDP voter and the canvases walked away from me saying we don't want people like you voting for us when I asked her to explain her parties stance on Women's Rights

The Lib Dems were progressing well in the 2000s and could have kept building. They had a lot of seats and votes and Lab and Con weren't popular.

They tossed it all away under Clegg and had to start again.

Thanks @FlouncingBabooshka , that's interesting.

OP - your friends who are saying they will vote Labour to get the Tories out have probably checked a website like this one:

https://tactical.vote

You can enter your postcode and at the top of the page it takes you to it will show you your best bet for tactical voting. Under that it shows the results of the 2019 election and then under that it shows all the main polls’ calculations on the winner and runner up in your constituency. If they aren’t showing the LibDems as likely winners then it’s going to be a wasted vote.

Apologies if this has already been posted - I’m not able to RTFT atm.

Policy wise I'm aligned with Lib Dems. But they don't agree with me about what a woman is, so I can't really vote for them. It's both essential and basic.

I think the Tory coalition and the reneging on stopping university fees by Nick Clegg put off an awful lot of people around my age. I'm sure it depends on where you live and your local demographic but everyone I know aged approx 30 to 40 wouldn't ever vote Lib Dem for the above reasons.

It costs a lot and takes a lot of volunteers to run an effective campaign. The Lib Dems cant afford to target everywhere - they are building up from a low number of MPs.

Also some areas just won't vote Lib Dem in high enough numbers - you might personally know a lot of Lib Dem-leaning people, but that doesn't mean the whole constituency is like you. If you are in a very leave-voting area, for example, a Lib Dem candidate with their pro-EU stance is not as likely to win as if you are in a remain-votong seat. How socially conservative are voters in your area - this can have a big impact.

Fingers crossed for your constituency @scissy. My Blue Wall Tory stronghold is also predicted to go Lib Dem

Oh I know, you should have seen the Tory candidate's face at the hustings!!!
Sadly he still won but with a tiny majority. We're one of the seats with an 85% probability Lib Dem gain.

I live in a solid Libdem constituency, won't be voting for them due to their stance on gender. I once asked a Libdem canvasser if he could tell me what a woman was, he said he couldn't answer that. If we had an SDP candidate I would be voting for them, as I did in the mayoral elections. Still dithering......

The ‘coalition’ showed just how much the LIb Dems could be trusted. Not at all.

You could well be right that the roots of this go back to the Labour era. All I know is that the SNP have been in power for a long, long time and have not been competent.

Love it

I think it depends where you are OP. I live in a Lib Dem/Tory swing seat and the Lib Dems are VERY active (and always have been tbf). They have run the local council for over 20 years. It's got to the point that even though officially Labour have to stand, (it's in their constitution apparently) in the last 2 elections the candidate "selected" has basically said "vote Lib Dem" 🤣 and they don't actively campaign at all.

It's all about being tactical and getting the Tories out this time isn't it. I'd vote for whoever I had to to be honest.

Luckily here it's very clearly Lib Dem who are the challengers to the Tories so it's an easy choice.

I like the Lib Dems and for once in my life there's a (slim) chance that they might overturn the humongous Tory majority where I live. They beat Labour into 3rd place at the last election and have gradually grown their local support.

I'd vote for Labour though if they had a better chance of toppling the Tories here.

How many ferries did Labour build back in the early 2000's when the fleet was already overdue for replacement?

Yes, good point. I am an expat Scot with family in Scotland. I regularly visit and play ferry roulette in the hope of getting over to the island where my Mum lives. We should have had a new ferry years and years ago, but it's still a long way off. The SNP are a bunch of incompetents, and that's the kindest form of words I can come up with.

If it helps, the Lib Dems are even worse than Labour on gender stuff, so if the choice is between Labour and Lib Dem and you care about women's rights it's better to vote Labour. It's a horrible choice because they're both woeful on women's rights but the Lib Dems are far worse.

Do any of the current polls show area specific results or are they all general votes?

I just did a vote for policies thing, came out Lib Dem, Green and Labor tie! So I looked at the details, and align more with Lib Dem, plus I recognize the candidate and liked his statement, he is clearly local, knows the issues and has good life experience.

We are a tory strong hold, I doubt we will get them out, I want our representative out as I have had dealings with him over the years and think him diabolical. Last time around Labor and Lib dem got about the same vote. But I don't know what people in my area are thinking this time around.