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MadameMassiveSalad · 29/06/2024 07:44

Why?

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MadameMassiveSalad · 30/06/2024 11:30

Agreed @bozzabollix

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MadameMassiveSalad · 30/06/2024 11:30

@HappiestSleeping isn't it better to vote for a party/manifesto than one person?

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HappiestSleeping · 29/06/2024 09:25

bozzabollix · 29/06/2024 09:15

Surely your main problem looking at the above is with the piss poor Conservative record of government. So vote tactically to get them out.

Yes, absolutely. But the question was asking if you are undecided. I know I don't want Conservative, but who then? It isn't a question of choosing the best these days, more like the least worst. Or even the quote from a woman my wife heard on the radio who said something along the lines of "I'm going to vote for x. It will probably still be shit, but at least it will be different."

I've said before on other threads, this election feels like choosing between syphilis or gonorrhoea. Neither is appealing.

TheHorneSection · 29/06/2024 09:21

None of the opposition parties quite appeals to me, so I’m not feeling a burning desire towards one party of another.

I’m voting to get our incumbent Tory MP out and up until a few years ago that would have been a clear Lib Dem vote, but our new Labour candidate is doing really well in the canvassing and polling. Which means there feels like a split vote between the two and I don’t know which one to go for.

I’m not a natural Labour voter but they’re going to win this election whatever I do, so it feels a bit… meh

bozzabollix · 29/06/2024 09:15

HappiestSleeping · 29/06/2024 09:12

Easy. There is no party who stands out as being capable, or clear (and trustworthy) about their intentions.

Conservatives
Left the EU. Not only that but with a very bad deal (not that there was a better deal than the one we had as members).
Have had 14 years to implement some of the things they are promising now.
Have managed the economy badly (and then the Trussterfuck).
Have no clear leadership, and no heavy hitters in the wings.

Labour
Have no clear leadership or heavy hitters in the wings.
Starmer is very woolly. I don't really have a clue about who he is, or what he stands for. He is a typical lawyer in that he objects a lot, but doesn't really say what he would do. The manifesto makes a lot of promises, but is light on the detail of how those promises would be delivered.

Lib-Dem
Don't really have a chance of forming a government, but may be a good strategic vote to oust my local Conservative MP.

Reform
Not really worth dignifying with a comment.

I know that leaving the EU has caused economic problems that will take decades to solve, but there is no ownership of it within the Conservative Party. Couple that with the response to the pandemic, which was laughable, and we have a fairly dire situation with no plan from either party.

That's why.

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Surely your main problem looking at the above is with the piss poor Conservative record of government. So vote tactically to get them out.

HappiestSleeping · 29/06/2024 09:12

Easy. There is no party who stands out as being capable, or clear (and trustworthy) about their intentions.

Conservatives
Left the EU. Not only that but with a very bad deal (not that there was a better deal than the one we had as members).
Have had 14 years to implement some of the things they are promising now.
Have managed the economy badly (and then the Trussterfuck).
Have no clear leadership, and no heavy hitters in the wings.

Labour
Have no clear leadership or heavy hitters in the wings.
Starmer is very woolly. I don't really have a clue about who he is, or what he stands for. He is a typical lawyer in that he objects a lot, but doesn't really say what he would do. The manifesto makes a lot of promises, but is light on the detail of how those promises would be delivered.

Lib-Dem
Don't really have a chance of forming a government, but may be a good strategic vote to oust my local Conservative MP.

Reform
Not really worth dignifying with a comment.

I know that leaving the EU has caused economic problems that will take decades to solve, but there is no ownership of it within the Conservative Party. Couple that with the response to the pandemic, which was laughable, and we have a fairly dire situation with no plan from either party.

That's why.

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