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Why isn’t there a political party who sit in the middle

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UpcomingElection2024 · 28/06/2024 14:07

I’ve been following all the political news recently and watching the live debates and can’t help but think why isn’t there a political party that represent the majority of what I would call hard working normal people want. I’m aware that this means different things to different people but surely there are some policies that people in both labour and Tory camps would agree on such as:

proper control of migration:

  1. allow in skilled workers to plug the gaps in labour, we should welcome people who add value to our country and want to contribute the society and allow them to apply for residency / dual citizenship after x years.
  2. allow safe routes and channels into the country for those fleeing persecution in their own countries, but not when they have travelled through other safe countries to get here. I’m genuinely curious why they come to UK after they have arrived in France when they could stop there - what is the draw?
  3. hard stop on illegal immigration, surely options 1 & 2 above are the correct viable options. If investment is needed in 1 & 2 then we should put it in place.
  4. stop any type of benefits for group 1 above, they haven’t paid into the country to qualify and should work to fund being here.

proper investment in healthcare:

  1. properly fund clinical staff in healthcare, overhaul managerial roles and invest in up to date IT systems to streamline services
  2. Add in more frontline clinical staff to improve quality of care basically have a more sensible ratio of clinical to admin/managerial roles (more Indians less chiefs)
  3. give PIP benefits to those who truely need it and ensure they can have a proper quality of life and support for families, the Kate Garaway documentary was heartbreaking.
  4. reduce ambiguous PIP payments for hidden disabilities that can’t be properly proven. Why does ADHD need paying for? (Genuinely curious) it never existed before and people made adjustments to their lives to accommodate any needs.

Education:

  1. make teaching an attractive profession again and support teachers to be able to teach and not be tied up with targets etc
  2. stop school fines - it’s just a money making ploy

Councils:

  1. hold them to account on their spending
  2. invest more in public services, local swimming pools, maintaining public areas, the councils should work for the people who live in their communities and reflect their needs not be run like businesses

Energy companies:

  1. again hold them to account and cap the profits they are allowed to make.
  2. enforce them to reinvest in xx% beck into infrastructure

welfare/ benefits

  1. It shouldn’t be an option to choose not to work because someone is better off on benefits, this baffles me that it’s a viable option for some.
  2. why should workers fund those who choose not to work ( not those who physically can’t)
  3. cap how long someone can be on benefits like in other countries. It shouldnt be there as an option to help short term to help get people back into work and shouldn’t be used as an alternative to working

I suppose my point is surely there’s a mid point in some of these topics that both Tory and labour voters would buy into that would make society a fairer and more united place.

once we get the country back on track we can then move forward but to me it feels like we’re in a sinking boat trying to get the water out with a teaspoon.

it’s frustrating to agree with certain policies from each party but none that truly take in the views of the majority. (Again maybe I’m disillusioned on what this is) surely there’s topics that the majority of the country agree on!

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/06/2024 14:18

reduce ambiguous PIP payments for hidden disabilities that can’t be properly proven. Why does ADHD need paying for? (Genuinely curious) it never existed before and people made adjustments to their lives to accommodate any needs

My Dd gets PIP for ADHD. Shes too anxious to go on public transport. Shes too anxious to talk to people. She’s in severe ND burnout and is too exhausted to do anything. It also pays for private medication as our city made 17 adult assessments last year. There’s about 4000 people on the waiting list.

Does that fucking shut you up?!

Or should she spend it on gin and cigarettes?

UpcomingElection2024 · 28/06/2024 14:16

@Sometimesnot sorry I don’t mean it never existed I’m sure it did as we’re convinced my uncle had it. What I suppose I meant was mild ADHD that didn’t prevent him working.

i agree that in severe cases (like my friend and her son) proper support and care should be provided by the government but not for milder cases. Again maybe this is the current rules

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zzplex · 28/06/2024 14:16

There is a party between Labour and the Conservatives: the Liberal Democrats.

Sometimesnot · 28/06/2024 14:14

You lost me when you said adhd never existed before. Of course it did. Those people were just lisbled with stuff like bpd or left to struggle.

Also people on skilled worker visas already aren’t allowed benefits and already have to leave the country if they lose their jobs. Due to the nhs surcharge they also pay more into the system than us. It’s very stressful having a loved one in the country for that reason.

UpcomingElection2024 · 28/06/2024 14:14

@Bromptotoo yes to both:

my niece has ADHD and my sister has never claimed a penny. I also agree that some have severe ADHD and this should qualify for PIP. I also know a parent who tells their daughter to act on it so they continue to get their payment

secondly i know someone who is on benefits, goes on multiple holidays smokes goes out all the time and seems to live a better life than me! Not sure how

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Bromptotoo · 28/06/2024 14:10

Couple of thoughts:

Choosing not to work and being better off just doesn't happen

Have you ever met somebody with ADHD?