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Reform party seems to be ahead in my area.

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Moier · 20/06/2024 18:55

Any of you voting Reform?
My area was always labour..( I've never voted labour).. but according to what I'm reading.. it's surprisingly gone the other way.
Will have to wait and see.
Did him being in I'm a Celebrity make him more popular..or is the extreme right the way to go?

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Pressstopthengo · 21/06/2024 18:00

Northwest and lots of support here. Window stickers ect.. I’ve noticed friends and friends and families changing their Facebook profile logo to reform - it’s weird as I’ve never seen that before.

I don’t want reform to win as I don’t think they’re be capable. I don’t think they will win either so I think it’s more of a protest vote.

I’ll never vote for Labour and greens as they have been totally captured by trans ideology. I don’t want to vote conservative because they don’t deserve it. Reform won’t win it and are incapable but I might just vote them in protest.

If Kemi Badernoch becomes leader of the Tories tomorrow I would vote Tories.

I think they know they are going to lose and are just waiting for Labour to get in make everything even worse than it is and pull Kemi out the bag for a fresh start

justasking111 · 21/06/2024 18:00

I suspect it's a protest vote against the Tories. I wouldn't expect it to affect any other political parties to any extent.

Anonym00se · 21/06/2024 18:00

LifeGivesYouOranges · 21/06/2024 17:45

@Anonym00se Of course! Stopping the mention of trans ideology in schools is a massive step forward. Any steps towards reclaiming womens rights are welcome. Looking to total reform of the NHS to a more French based system is a superb idea - no amount of money will fix the black hole of our NHS now. Not treating the NHS like some sacred religion and looking to real improvement is refreshing. Plus some lovely little extras like scrapping inheritance tax (a bloody stealth tax if I ever saw one!) and scrapping the BBC licence fee. Even if they can't achieve it there are some fab ideas here.

Thanks for replying!

Can I ask what your views are on Farage’s positive comments about Andrew Tate? I think they’re enough to terrify any woman. Do you think Reform’s plans to scrap the Equalities act and pull out of the ECHR will be hugely detrimental to women’s hard-fought rights and set us back decades? What’s the point of passing a law to ban trans people from changing rooms, when on the other hand we could also lose maternity rights, equal pay, and go back to having no protection from domestic violence because that’s the reality of their plans.

Also, Farage keeps banging on about French-style reform of the NHS but his plans don’t resemble the French system at all. Are you worried about us ending up with a US-style system of healthcare where even insured people end up bankrupted from a cancer diagnosis?

I just believe that he’s coming out with all this stuff, but his words and actions are already proving that he’s extremely disingenuous about the promises in his ‘contract’.

LifeGivesYouOranges · 21/06/2024 17:51

@Anonym00se to add, you say why would I vote for someone with horrible views - Keir Starmer has the most awful view of all - that men can be women. It makes an absolute mockery of women and girls rights. He must really hate us. I cannot vote for this utter denial of basic truth.

LifeGivesYouOranges · 21/06/2024 17:45

@Anonym00se Of course! Stopping the mention of trans ideology in schools is a massive step forward. Any steps towards reclaiming womens rights are welcome. Looking to total reform of the NHS to a more French based system is a superb idea - no amount of money will fix the black hole of our NHS now. Not treating the NHS like some sacred religion and looking to real improvement is refreshing. Plus some lovely little extras like scrapping inheritance tax (a bloody stealth tax if I ever saw one!) and scrapping the BBC licence fee. Even if they can't achieve it there are some fab ideas here.

ilovesooty · 21/06/2024 17:43

Refreshing policies?

RafaistheKingofClay · 21/06/2024 17:41

ilovesooty · 21/06/2024 17:26

Reform policies aren't costed either. Not that it matters to them - they won't have to implement them.

There’s a small part of me that makes me want to see what would happen if they were suddenly forced to implement them.

But mostly from the safe distance of watching from another country…

Anonym00se · 21/06/2024 17:37

LifeGivesYouOranges · 21/06/2024 17:35

I was going to vote Tory (although I didn't want to, it's purely because I didn't want to vote Labour) but Reform have some refreshing policies so I'm going to vote for them.

I am not far right, or racist, or 'thick' or any of the ridiculous insults that have been thrown around recently. (Those who have to sling childish insults at anyone whose opinion differs to their own are not worth listening to). I have no doubt Labour will form the next Government but I certainly will not have voting for them on my conscience!

Can I ask which of their policies are attractive?

Also edited to add that I don’t think that Reform voters are racist or far right. But Reform themselves are, so what is the appeal of voting for people with horrible views like theirs?

LifeGivesYouOranges · 21/06/2024 17:35

I was going to vote Tory (although I didn't want to, it's purely because I didn't want to vote Labour) but Reform have some refreshing policies so I'm going to vote for them.

I am not far right, or racist, or 'thick' or any of the ridiculous insults that have been thrown around recently. (Those who have to sling childish insults at anyone whose opinion differs to their own are not worth listening to). I have no doubt Labour will form the next Government but I certainly will not have voting for them on my conscience!

ilovesooty · 21/06/2024 17:26

Reform policies aren't costed either. Not that it matters to them - they won't have to implement them.

bergamotorange · 21/06/2024 17:19

Moier · 20/06/2024 22:37

I never said l was voting Reform.
Just what I've seen/ heard etc.

Seen/heard where?

bergamotorange · 21/06/2024 17:16

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 21/06/2024 16:46

I think re from will do really well. I believe a lot of people wont admit to voting for them

Look what happened with brexit. Anyone who voted yes was attacked verbally so people stopped admitting it. The same is happening.

The Brexit polls were accurate, nothing was hidden.

bergamotorange · 21/06/2024 17:15

Moier · 20/06/2024 18:55

Any of you voting Reform?
My area was always labour..( I've never voted labour).. but according to what I'm reading.. it's surprisingly gone the other way.
Will have to wait and see.
Did him being in I'm a Celebrity make him more popular..or is the extreme right the way to go?

What exactly are you reading?

If an official poll, pay attention. If just bollocks on FB, take with a pinch of salt.

RafaistheKingofClay · 21/06/2024 17:11

blackcherryconserve · 21/06/2024 16:53

That's my fear - another Brexit situation.

The referendum results within the margin of error for polling leading up to it IIRC. And it was a narrow win on a yes/no referendum. That’s very different to getting seats in a FPTP election.

The Brexit party vote is extremely inefficient. They’ll need to take some pointers from the lib dems if they want to translate their vote share into seats. Or the Green Party in the last local elections.

Sweden99 · 21/06/2024 17:00

Blackcats7 · 21/06/2024 15:42

Actually I read a piece in the Guardian with comments from someone who had been at school with Garbage, sorry I mean Farage and apparently he used to say Hitler had the right idea about the jews and would mutter “gas ‘em” at a jewish pupil.
He also think Andrew Tate is a good influence on young boys.
We saw photos of him dancing with Priti Patel at the last tory party conference when he actually wouldn’t piss on a brown person if they were on fire but was happy to use her if it suited him.

I know someone who went to school with Farage. He was not particularly objectionable to him, other than being very racist and pro Nazi.

lostoldname · 21/06/2024 16:55

So I vote for the party lead by the man who is an apologist for Andrew Tate, loves Donald Trump and has a candidate who is a twice convicted paedophile.

Anonym00se · 21/06/2024 16:55

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 21/06/2024 16:46

I think re from will do really well. I believe a lot of people wont admit to voting for them

Look what happened with brexit. Anyone who voted yes was attacked verbally so people stopped admitting it. The same is happening.

Yes it is the same. People listened to Farage’s lies, cast their votes and shafted the country. And not content with the part they played (“Yes, it was a mistake. We were lied to!”) they’re now going to do exactly the same thing all over again. You couldn’t make it up. Isn’t it a case of “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”?

Sillystrumpet · 21/06/2024 16:53

blackcherryconserve · 21/06/2024 16:53

That's my fear - another Brexit situation.

Mine too.

blackcherryconserve · 21/06/2024 16:53

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 21/06/2024 16:46

I think re from will do really well. I believe a lot of people wont admit to voting for them

Look what happened with brexit. Anyone who voted yes was attacked verbally so people stopped admitting it. The same is happening.

That's my fear - another Brexit situation.

Blackcats7 · 21/06/2024 16:51

Not everyone who votes Reform is a racist but every racist votes for them.
The only people I know irl who plan to vote reform are indeed racists. They are gleeful at the prospect of Nigel Garbage leaving black and brown people to drown in the channel which is apparently part of Reform’s plan with their floating wall without handholds. Staff on the wall will be told that anyone in the water on the french side are the sole responsibility of the french coast guard and not to offer assistance.
I wonder what sort of people will be applying for a job watching people drown?

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 21/06/2024 16:46

I think re from will do really well. I believe a lot of people wont admit to voting for them

Look what happened with brexit. Anyone who voted yes was attacked verbally so people stopped admitting it. The same is happening.

blackcherryconserve · 21/06/2024 16:36

SnapdragonToadflax · 21/06/2024 12:33

Reform aren't 'new'. They're the BNP in a suit.

I agree. Sadly far too many people are either uninformed (or only know what they think they know through SM) or have their fingers in their ears saying 'lalala I'm not listening to you' as DD1 used to do when she was a teenager.

Singersong · 21/06/2024 16:07

I'm voting reform.

They're the only people I trust to stop the thousands of dangerous illegal men coming into our country and attacking women and girls.

Blackcats7 · 21/06/2024 15:56

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 21/06/2024 15:52

Far age is 60 years old, so this was maybe 45 years ago. Have none of your views changed since you were at school? Are you really, really proud of everything you said and did as a teenager?

if so…😇 ( or maybe😵‍💫)

Well I never supported Hitler at any age. Did you?
It’s a bit more fundamental than dying your hair purple and being obsessed with Depeche Mode. Morally I am the same person I have always been.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 21/06/2024 15:52

Blackcats7 · 21/06/2024 15:42

Actually I read a piece in the Guardian with comments from someone who had been at school with Garbage, sorry I mean Farage and apparently he used to say Hitler had the right idea about the jews and would mutter “gas ‘em” at a jewish pupil.
He also think Andrew Tate is a good influence on young boys.
We saw photos of him dancing with Priti Patel at the last tory party conference when he actually wouldn’t piss on a brown person if they were on fire but was happy to use her if it suited him.

Far age is 60 years old, so this was maybe 45 years ago. Have none of your views changed since you were at school? Are you really, really proud of everything you said and did as a teenager?

if so…😇 ( or maybe😵‍💫)

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