Why its common sense not to vote conserative at the next general election

Yes this is exactly how I feel. I think a hung parliament is a real possibility. Lots of voters won't have the nerve to vote labour at the last minute.

Labour will need at least two terms to sort out the absolute mess they're going to inherit from the Tories.

Unfortunately, a significant portion of the British voting population are as thick as pigshit, so when things don't improve overnight the media will be after Starmer's blood, and these very same dullards will be back voting Tory as soon as they can.

It does seem that most people are planning to vote against a party (conservative) rather than for labour because they actually support their policies.
My worst fear would be a hung parliament with some bonkers minority party holding balance of power.

I hate these 'if U vote TORY U R a cvnt' type of threads, but in this instance, I do think anyone who votes for the Conservatives in the next election is absolutely bonkers. The Tories really, truly DO need to go.

Who to vote for though? Politically homeless here. I only know I am NOT voting for the Conservatives! Do I vote LibDem? Will that split the votes if too many vote LibDem, and result in a Conservative win?!

I am really struggling! 😖

Johnson hated us with spirit!

Absolute sociopath of a man. He was rumoured to have said that he didn't care how many people died from Covid as long as we didn't need to have lockdowns.

Go find an alley cat, get it out there for us to vote on and I'll vote for it. Call it
Non of the above, nota for short.

There really is no one to vote for. Not a single party stands out as voteable, which is criminal.

The Tories hate us. They have always hated us, but society has shifted somewhat over the past couple of decades, and from Cameron onwards the curtain was pulled back and the full extent of it gradually became obvious. Johnson hated us with spirit!

It's always been the better choice not to vote Tory, and to be really honest I struggle with who I will vote for because I don't see any great options, but I would never, ever vote Tory out of self respect as much as anything.

How can it all be going on benefits? It certainly isn't imo. The Tories have cut benefits to the bone and there is a benefit cap as well as a two child cap. They also cut local housing allowance so that if you lived in London, or an area where rent was more than 'average' you'd have to move out because they will not pay London housing rates. At the time, people referred to this as 'social cleansing'. There were people who had lived in London all their lives, now having to move away from their families and support networks because they could only now get 20% of their rent paid,

PIP is almost impossible to get without a tribunal. It became harder to get when the Tories got in because it uses a different assessment tool which basically ignores hidden disabilities and refuses to recognise them.

Remember also the bedroom tax?

People have short memories.

Agree
With only 30% of tax payers as a net worth ie paying in more than they take out A lots going on UC and PIP and claims are set to rise exponentially over the coming years…..that’s a fact whether we like it or not
Can labour deal that blow to the electorate, can they reduce benefits if that what’s needed……
If we keep hitting the 30% they’ll go elsewhere…….just like the nomdoms with their businesses and jobs.

Im not sure Labour have the balls at the moment…….

So, someone who voted Tory before who now has aggressive breast cancer which they are having to wait for treatment for may certainly be rethinking their choice this time. Because that's what's happening to people.

Higher rate tax payers may pay more tax but that tax is not being spent on the NHS any more. This is a disaster for the vast majority of us.

You realise that the people who can do this, are the same people who are additional rate taxpayers, and are consequently contributing much more than most to public services?

Yes but there are very few people who put in more than they take out. It's fair enough for people to vote for their own interests if that is you.

But here's the thing, most people who've been voting the Tories in for the last 14 years do use state schools and the NHS and can't afford private health care.

Main problem now is that they seem to be almost all 'career politicians'. Public school, Oxbridge, private secretary, safe seat... No real view of life whatsoever

That’s rude.!

No idea what Labour are offering.

They don’t support womens rights and are in favour of us losing all single sex toilets, rape centres and changing facilities and calling out anyone that questions it. Including bullying their own MPs ….so crap then

Their tax on school fees doesn’t stack up financially and they seem unable to get any figures out to the electorate that proves it will. So far economists are seeing it as a negative money pit…..so crap then.

Im a traditional Labour voter, now a floating voter. I’ll vote for someone that doesn’t give Taxpayers money away out of spite and supports my rights as a women.

You realise that the people who can do this, are the same people who are additional rate taxpayers, and are consequently contributing much more than most to public services?

Well that's reasonable if you don't need to use any public services and can pay for everything privately I suppose.

It's always the labour supporters that are telling us who to vote for.
But giving no reasons why.
You do you and l will continue to vote Conservative .

This is the perfect example of the toxicity of left v right.

You called a party racist - the party who gave us the first non white prime minister.

you talk about tories going to the “right” schools. Starmer went to a selective grammar which turned into a private school for his last few years there. I’d say that’s a “right” school for sure.

don’t you see how toxic and preposterous these arguments are?

I despise politics.

I want to see politics dismantled a bit.

It’s utterly poisonous, this left v right shit. Con did this, Lab did that. In reality, both have done things that have fucked the country hard.

Most people want to be reasonable.

Both parties claim to prioritise the NHS. And yet, the NHS has been getting worse and worse, for decades. The NHS needs a complete divorce from politics.

So do I. Yet the local council is now Libdem controlled and the MP (who is a senior government minister) is shitting himself. Well, not really, as I'm sure he'll be able to console himself with his millions if he gets the boot. It's one of those weird constituencies which is diehard true blue county Tory, but was also very much pro-Remain, and support for the party has just crumbled ever since. If yours is similar I suspect it is going the same way.

@squashyhat well keep on pissing- you might inspire others? Even long standing Tories are disillusioned.

I live in a constituency that has never elected anything other than a Conservative mp with a huge majority. I feel like I'm pissing in the wind

They've got to go.
Liars
Over-privileged
Out of touch
Discompassionate

I'd vote for a donkey to get them out.

@Soigneur try google?

@Chausson really? Look at Jess Phillips quietly battling away for women for donkeys years.