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Considering spoiling my ballot

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Itisallgoingtobeok · 21/04/2024 10:35

It makes me really sad to say this, but for the first time in my voting life I'm considering spoiling my ballot. I don't always vote the same way, but I've just looked at who is standing in the May elections and I can't bring myself to vote for any of them.

Even the "least worst" doesn't represent me... I feel if I vote for them I'm endorsing them, and I am definitely not, they are just marginally better than the others.

I was hoping for a decent independent candidate, but sadly no luck there.

Any others in the same boat? What will you do?

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Glamorous24 · 21/04/2024 12:08

But spoiling your ballot is wasting your vote! (that those suffragettes risked their lives to secure for us)

I can’t understand why anyone would spoil their ballot.

Voting is one of the most effective forms of protest that we as general public have.

I’m not convinced by the argument that spoiling your paper is an equal form of protest.

I would always vote tactically to try to keep the worst candidates (Tories for me) out, at the very least.

MigGirl · 21/04/2024 12:06

I wish our voting system was the same as Australia. Its compulsory to vote but you can tick a box that says non of the above.

twistyizzy · 21/04/2024 11:59

Completely agree OP. For the first time I ever there isn't any political party that I feel aligned to or that offers anything substantively better. I can't vote Tory but as a lifelong Labour voter I can't vote for them either.
Thoroughly disillusioned..

Itisallgoingtobeok · 21/04/2024 11:56

titchy · 21/04/2024 11:26

There was a brief mention on R4 this morning about a petition to add 'None of the above' as an option to all ballot papers. Could be interesting if it gains traction.

That sounds interesting. The fact it's even being raised suggests that perhaps there are a lot more people who have nobody to vote for than perhaps the main parties think.

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BoudiccaOfSuburbia · 21/04/2024 11:51

I will vote for the least worst lest the most worst get in.

Spoiling your ballot is pointless.

titchy · 21/04/2024 11:26

There was a brief mention on R4 this morning about a petition to add 'None of the above' as an option to all ballot papers. Could be interesting if it gains traction.

sashh · 21/04/2024 11:22

I did that with my last council vote.

I filled the ballot with things like, "respect my sex if you want my X' in alternate lines of purple and green.

I got my postal vote a couple of days ago and there is a Party of Women candidate. Her flyer has things like, "No woman has a penis" so she has got my vote.

@ForensicFlossy

Spoiled ballots are counted. Also where a vote is unclear the candidates get to see them in order to see if they can establish whether the voter intended to vote for a candidate.

https://votingcounts.org.uk/spoilt-ballot

What is spoiling your ballot, and how do you do it? - Voting Counts

However what happens if you don't agree with any of the candidates available to you? Spoiling your ballot is one way to show your dissatisfaction.

https://votingcounts.org.uk/spoilt-ballot

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 21/04/2024 11:16

Yes but however you vote, someone is going to get in. Find other ways to protest.

ivs · 21/04/2024 11:14

ForensicFlossy · 21/04/2024 10:47

Spoiling your paper is a complete waste of time. No one will give it a second glance.

No you're wrong.

Spoiled paper is a protest vote.

makeanddo · 21/04/2024 11:11

It's better to go and spoil your ballot than not vote. Spoiled ballots are counted and you're making it clear there was no one for you to vote but you want to vote, not voting could be for a variety of reasons.

Smallyeti · 21/04/2024 11:08

Itisallgoingtobeok
It’s like choosing whether you’d rather have Ebola or the Bubonic Plague.

Labour have f’d up just about everything, the Tory’s will do the same given the chance and the others sound vague, clueless and hopeless (so exactly like the big 2, but with no chance of getting elected.)

Anewuser · 21/04/2024 11:05

Like you, I feel politically homeless.

I want to vote, for all the reasons above, but wanted to see an independent that I thought would be like minded.

Tories will still get in here and I can’t abide that. So I spoilt my vote in the hope that many others will and hopefully they’ll be counted (that we’re all unhappy).

LadyIrony · 21/04/2024 11:04

I've spoiled many polling cards in my time. I often write 'no suitable candidate or policy' across the paper. The fact people take the time to turn up and deliberately ruin their vote matters. I cared enough to plan my day around turning up. I'm also a swing voter and my vote is up for grabs if anyone appeals to me. It's a form of protest, and protesting is valid and worthy. Don;t let anyone say otherwise.

SabreIsMyFave · 21/04/2024 11:03

Itisallgoingtobeok · 21/04/2024 10:59

@AmandaHoldensLips - agree on the vote for women aspect, that's why I will do something, I will show up and vote.

Yes! Smile

Itisallgoingtobeok · 21/04/2024 11:01

@Smallyeti - it really is a struggle isn't it? I have the same issue but it's the Tories rather than Labour.

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Smallyeti · 21/04/2024 10:59

I’m in an area where Labour all have the majority and have been wrecking our city for donkeys years, The waste of money, the corruption and unpleasant candidates for both councillors and MPs - there’s not a right one among them. I’m trying to find the least obnoxious and least worst in terms of what they say they are going to do, but bloody hell, I’m struggling. I don’t think spoiling your ballot paper will achieve anything other than providing an outlet for your anger. But if you want to do that, I’d totally understand .

Itisallgoingtobeok · 21/04/2024 10:59

@AmandaHoldensLips - agree on the vote for women aspect, that's why I will do something, I will show up and vote.

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SabreIsMyFave · 21/04/2024 10:59

Itisallgoingtobeok · 21/04/2024 10:55

That's interesting. I was reading about spoiled ballots and the government website said they count them and report them as spoiled so treated differently to not voting at all. A no show is seen as "I don't care, not interested" whereas a spoiled ballot is "I care, but there is nobody I want to vote for". Ultimately I know it will make little difference unless a large section of the public do the same.

Correct @Itisallgoingtobeok As I said, a spoiled vote is a much better idea than just not being faffed to show! Voting for someone is better of course, but not if you are not happy with ANY of the candidates/parties.

I can't believe someone who works at a polling station told you to just not go! Gobsmacked! Shock

Itisallgoingtobeok · 21/04/2024 10:58

MaggieFS · 21/04/2024 10:54

I fully understand what you mean, but I think when it comes to local elections - the results of which often have FAR MORE impact on daily life than a GE - it's possible to look at the track record and separate it from the shit show of Westminster politics. Who has the best ideas for where you live? Have the incumbents done what they said they'd do, or do you need a change?

Don't waste your vote by spoiling it.

I've been looking from this aspect too. The local records are as bad as the national ones. Badly thought through plans, no proposals for fixing things that are broken, just mud slinging at each other.

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AmandaHoldensLips · 21/04/2024 10:55

@Oblomov24 to my mind, it means that yes I can be bothered to turn up to the polling station, but that there is no-one on the ballot who deserves my vote.

I can't ignore that women died fighting for the right to vote, so turning up is important to me.

SabreIsMyFave · 21/04/2024 10:55

FrannieGallops · 21/04/2024 10:49

Why bother doing it at all? Just don’t vote 🥴

I work as a policing station inspector and no one gives a hoot about spoilt papers - it’s exactly as meaningless as not voting.

If you work at a polling station, (I am assuming you meant that and not policing station!) then you should know that what you have said is a load of tripe. Spoiling your vote is NOT pointless. It's much better than staying at home and not going! (Obviously voting is better than spoiling, but spoiling is better than nothing!)

What is spoiling your ballot, and how do you do it? - Voting Counts

What is spoiling your ballot, and how do you do it? - Voting Counts

However what happens if you don't agree with any of the candidates available to you? Spoiling your ballot is one way to show your dissatisfaction.

https://votingcounts.org.uk/spoilt-ballot

Itisallgoingtobeok · 21/04/2024 10:55

FrannieGallops · 21/04/2024 10:49

Why bother doing it at all? Just don’t vote 🥴

I work as a policing station inspector and no one gives a hoot about spoilt papers - it’s exactly as meaningless as not voting.

That's interesting. I was reading about spoiled ballots and the government website said they count them and report them as spoiled so treated differently to not voting at all. A no show is seen as "I don't care, not interested" whereas a spoiled ballot is "I care, but there is nobody I want to vote for". Ultimately I know it will make little difference unless a large section of the public do the same.

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HaveANiceFuckingDay · 21/04/2024 10:55

Just don't vote that's what I'm doing .

MaggieFS · 21/04/2024 10:54

I fully understand what you mean, but I think when it comes to local elections - the results of which often have FAR MORE impact on daily life than a GE - it's possible to look at the track record and separate it from the shit show of Westminster politics. Who has the best ideas for where you live? Have the incumbents done what they said they'd do, or do you need a change?

Don't waste your vote by spoiling it.

LizTruss · 21/04/2024 10:54

I know what you mean, I think I might just scribble all over mine with my crayons.

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