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Trump Trial Time - banish all memories of Mueller.

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Spandauer · 19/04/2024 16:29

Is this #132?
Still trying to rid the world of this troublesome twat.

Old thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4912378-trump-gets-gagged-mccarthy-gets-booted-whats-next-in-trumpworld

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SerendipityJane · 14/07/2024 10:17

PerkingFaintly · 14/07/2024 10:13

Problem is, assassinating people is also a danger to democracy.

Trump's both an unpleasant individual, and personally a danger to democracy.

His incitement of the insurrection, and his eagerness to be king of the non-democratic state he and his sponsors were trying in 2021 to create, and are currently trying to create with Project 2025, leaves no doubt about that.

But removal of politicians by assassination or even threat of assassination is also damaging to democracies. And I want democracy to survive.

I don't think this is going to ever be a open and shut case.

PerkingFaintly · 14/07/2024 10:13

Problem is, assassinating people is also a danger to democracy.

Trump's both an unpleasant individual, and personally a danger to democracy.

His incitement of the insurrection, and his eagerness to be king of the non-democratic state he and his sponsors were trying in 2021 to create, and are currently trying to create with Project 2025, leaves no doubt about that.

But removal of politicians by assassination or even threat of assassination is also damaging to democracies. And I want democracy to survive.

SerendipityJane · 14/07/2024 10:13

Afternoon film for y'all - worth it for Alan Rickman, but an interesting plot line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Roberts

Bob Roberts - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Roberts

Spandauer · 14/07/2024 09:38

Is this where Alex Jones gets involved and declares that they're obviously all actors and nobody was really shot?

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BruceAndNosh · 14/07/2024 09:15

I've never been one for conspiracy theories but I'm getting sucked in...

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 14/07/2024 08:40

prettybird · 14/07/2024 08:31

It's very convenient that the shooter was killed so we will never truly know his motivation Hmm or if he was put up to it Hmm

Such a young man and a Republican at that ShockConfused

A serious assassination attempt from a roof nearby would involved the sniper being there and ready hours (if not a day) in advance, not "crawling across the roof" just beforehand Hmm and wouldn't have missed Confused

Completely agree with all that, @prettybird. Maybe we're both nutcases to believe that, even of Trump and his associates?

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 14/07/2024 08:38

BruceAndNosh · 14/07/2024 08:27

I guess he was shocked and angry, but Trump pumping his fist shouting "FIGHT" at least three times as they bundled him off stage was quite chilling

Not just that, but fuels the fire of my conspiracy theory that he was expecting it.

prettybird · 14/07/2024 08:31

It's very convenient that the shooter was killed so we will never truly know his motivation Hmm or if he was put up to it Hmm

Such a young man and a Republican at that ShockConfused

A serious assassination attempt from a roof nearby would involved the sniper being there and ready hours (if not a day) in advance, not "crawling across the roof" just beforehand Hmm and wouldn't have missed Confused

BruceAndNosh · 14/07/2024 08:27

I guess he was shocked and angry, but Trump pumping his fist shouting "FIGHT" at least three times as they bundled him off stage was quite chilling

BruceAndNosh · 14/07/2024 08:25

The same base that thought it was OK to storm the Capitol will take this incident as justification for taking a pot at Biden

BruceAndNosh · 14/07/2024 08:23

Some photographer has practically recreated Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima.
Trump will be selling t shirts with this on by lunchtime (doubtless without paying royalties)

Trump Trial Time - banish all memories of Mueller.
borntobequiet · 14/07/2024 08:11

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 14/07/2024 06:21

I'll be joining you there.
Also, not usually one for conspiracy theories, but my first thought was that Trump set it up himself.

Me too.

Spandauer · 14/07/2024 07:59

Oh he's going to claim the FBI and Democrats are behind this, isn't he. A dastardly plot by Dark Brandon.

I think he'll also claim "sainthood" even though he's (unfortunately) still breathing.

ugh! what a effing mess.

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Spandauer · 14/07/2024 07:47

oh Lordy! And I'm with you all on the "needed more target practice " thoughts. I'm actually surprised it's taken this long for someone to have a go.

He's going to be very shaken by this so it will be interesting to see if he continues with his rallies.

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 14/07/2024 07:26

As it is, Biden is now done for. As are the Democrats, even if Biden were to be replaced last minute. What a disaster for everyone except Trump and his supporters.

Eyesopenwideawake · 14/07/2024 07:15

I was only saying to my DP recently that I hoped every day to wake to this news, only more final.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 14/07/2024 06:23

Wallaw · 14/07/2024 02:39

I'm clearly a terrible person, but I'm just disappointed. If that shooter was willing to die for it, wish he'd had a clean hit. My heart goes out to the civilians killed and injured however.

Thoughts and prayers to all, as the Republicans are so fond of saying when schoolchildren are slaughtered at their desks.

I'm definitely a terrible person, I had the same reaction. The only thing is, Trump would have been elevated to sainthood had he been killed and then where would the USA be?

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 14/07/2024 06:21

AcrossthePond55 · 14/07/2024 00:41

OK, I know I'm going to hell for that.

I'll be joining you there.
Also, not usually one for conspiracy theories, but my first thought was that Trump set it up himself.

Wallaw · 14/07/2024 02:39

I'm clearly a terrible person, but I'm just disappointed. If that shooter was willing to die for it, wish he'd had a clean hit. My heart goes out to the civilians killed and injured however.

Thoughts and prayers to all, as the Republicans are so fond of saying when schoolchildren are slaughtered at their desks.

BruceAndNosh · 14/07/2024 02:38

I don't think I can politely comment on this. 😎

AcrossthePond55 · 14/07/2024 01:39

tobee · 14/07/2024 00:57

We don't get that lucky.

Hoping Trump will be freaked out by it but probably clutching at straws

I had that brief hope too, but it only lasted a second. He's going to be even more convinced of his innate superiority after this.

tobee · 14/07/2024 00:57

AcrossthePond55 · 14/07/2024 00:40

Well, someone's a terrible shot.

We don't get that lucky.

Hoping Trump will be freaked out by it but probably clutching at straws

tobee · 14/07/2024 00:56

He looks like he was batting something away from his ear though rather than lectern?

tobee · 14/07/2024 00:54

Not great security

AcrossthePond55 · 14/07/2024 00:44

FWIW, shooter and one spectator dead. Another spectator in serious condition.

From the video I don't think Trump was hit. I think he hit his ear on the podium on the way down when he hit the ground.

This is a scary, scary thing. He's going to play this for everything he can and his base will be riled up beyond belief. If it causes any disaffected to come back to his side out of sympathy or outrage, I'm afraid the election is lost.

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