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Lifelong Labour voters: how are you feeling?

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VerlynWebbe · 11/04/2024 17:25

I ask because DH and I were discussing this last night.
He is of the opinion that he'll do anything that gets the Tories out, even if he has to hold his nose a bit.
I can't do it, though. I can't get over their inaction over the genocide in Gaza. Like, I can't imagine walking into a polling booth and setting aside that massive abdication of morals.
But I know things are fucked in Britain as well.
I really find it upsetting and wondered if anyone else feels the same.

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Charlie2121 · 12/04/2024 12:39

I don’t think I could ever vote for Labour. It’s quite possible that none of the parties really represent anything I’d want to support.

Its a fairly moot point though as the Conservatives will win in my constituency anyway regardless of how poorly they perform overall in the election.

Despite moving areas a few times I’ve never lived in one without a Conservative MP going right back to childhood.

Nicebloomers · 12/04/2024 12:37

I have to vote tactically to even stand a chance of getting rid of the Tory MP here. Probably Lib Dem. But I am a bit disillusioned by Labour in general I have to say. The Gaza thing in particular is very depressing. My thoughts align with your DH on this one. I’ll be holding my nose.

HaveANiceFuckingDay · 12/04/2024 12:32

TheFairyCaravan · 11/04/2024 17:43

I’m not risking another term of the Tories. I just can’t do it.

As a voter since i was 18 i can't do It

kirinm · 12/04/2024 12:28

I will vote labour as I always have but I am becoming increasingly concerned about how much pandering to Tory voters is going on. I hope that this is a strategy rather than the planned direction.

I could never vote in a way that risked the Tories getting back in.

Zonder · 12/04/2024 12:20

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Exactly. I'm stunned anyone is still believing this Tory lie.

Zonder · 12/04/2024 12:20

Excellent point @Kneidlach

Kneidlach · 12/04/2024 11:47

I can't do it, though. I can't get over their inaction over the genocide in Gaza.

What’s happening in Gaza is horrendous. There are also unbelievable levels of suffering going on in Haiti, Sudan, and China to name but a few. And the UK govt (and prospective Labour govt) is keen to increase trade and links with China despite their horrific treatment of the Uyghurs for example.

Why would Gaza sway your vote but none of these other conflicts or levels of suffering would? Anyway, the UK is now a relatively small player on the world stage and to a large extent UK Labour’s position on Gaza is irrelevant. No one in Tel Aviv is waiting with bated breath for Keir Starmer’s views.

Motheroffourdragons · 12/04/2024 11:32

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CurlewKate · 12/04/2024 11:25

Well done. Another step towards another Tory government.

MrsFinkelstein · 12/04/2024 10:56

FKAT · 12/04/2024 10:19

I don't get not voting or voting for a party on the basis of a conflict 1000s of miles away that our country is not involved in? Utterly bizarre.

It's like saying "I'm not voting Labour/Tory because of their failure to address the rising murder rate in Mexico City."

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This.
It's a peculiarly selfish notion IMO, clearly from people who are so insulated they haven't been affected by Tory policies.

Why didn't they have as strong feelings for actual ongoing genocides like Syria, Yemen and the Uyghur's in China?

They confidently repeat untrue talking points about a conflict they clearly don't fully understand.

VenetiaHallisWellPosh · 12/04/2024 10:53

As a PP said, I can't vote for Labour as it is now with Starmer in charge, because he disciplined his MPs who joined unions on picket lines during the height of the NR strikes. I find that despicable.

That, and Starmer's fudging of women's rights issues. Oh, and that w@nkbadger Wes Streeting wanting to bring in more private companies into the NHS. And the fookin LEZs in London. And the pay per mile proposal by Sadiq Khan (I'm voting Count Binface in the Mayoral Election). I will think of more.

My MP is Labour and only comes sniffing around when she wants my vote. She can foxtrot Oscar.

I should be a moderate Labour voter. I am a union member, I'm working class, I believe in the fairer distribution of wealth and opportunities for all...but no amount of nose-holding is gonna persuade me to put an X next to them.

In the GE I'm voting for the most obscure candidate or spoiling the ballot.

FKAT · 12/04/2024 10:19

I don't get not voting or voting for a party on the basis of a conflict 1000s of miles away that our country is not involved in? Utterly bizarre.

It's like saying "I'm not voting Labour/Tory because of their failure to address the rising murder rate in Mexico City."

GirlFromMarsBars · 12/04/2024 09:46

For some of us, the Labour party response to the genocide in Gaza is the straw that broke the camel's back. I've already been accepting much about Labour that no longer aligns with my values, because they're better than the Tories and we need to get the Tories out.

It seems I may have come to my hard stop. I'm lucky that my vote won't result in a Tory being elected where I live as Labour always get in. So I'm voting Green, as they are now the closest I can get to 'lefty' values

Zonder · 12/04/2024 09:44

Alexandra2001 · 12/04/2024 07:28

You aren't looking at the recent history... had Starmer called for a one sided ceasefire, stop arms sales etc the press would have turned on him with accusations of anti semitism, this could then lead to Labour losing the next GE, ensuring another 5 years of the Conservatives, is that what you want?

On Gaza/Israel he is walking a tightrope and of course has zero influence on the Israelis or Hamas - only the USA has that.

This is an important post for people still saying they can't vote Labour because of Gaza.

Motheroffourdragons · 12/04/2024 09:43

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MermaidEyes · 12/04/2024 09:42

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Agree with this. What's happening in other parts of the world is terrible but I'm sorry, selfish or not, what affects me and my family directly is what's going to swing my vote.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 12/04/2024 09:27

Voting for the less shit option wishing that the party I've always voted for was something better than it is. I know lifelong Labour voters who've gone Green.

Howsoon23 · 12/04/2024 09:13

I am long term labour voter and member - left party for a bit over antisemitism and thought corbyn was useless in lots of ways - if had different leader might well have not had brexit for instance- rejoined when it was clear Kier was going to deal with the antisemitism properly. I really rate Wes streeting - please with his comments on the Cass report this week and Rachel Reeves - and other shadow cabinet members. It's not a bad team they have built. I do wish Keir was a bit more clear about the direction sometimes - eg green stuff - but altogether I think they are doing what they need to do to win.

itsgettingweird · 12/04/2024 09:00

I can't get over their inaction over the genocide in Gaza

You've been following this? Because if you have you wouldn't be spouting RW press words and would know that that isn't the truth.

A) they aren't in power
B) they called for an immediate ceasefire
C) there was a whole furore because of this call for a ceasefire and their amendments being "given priority"

No one knows what a woman is. Or rather they all do but the debate has become so toxic and black and white no one ever really listens or talks. The gender debate and self ID is more than just "know what a woman is" and the recent report has shown how this has become a toxic culture war and all the males in woman's spaces stuff that's happen the past decade and a half have been under the Tory's.

I'm not a hard score Labour voter. I was never a Corbynite.

But there's not a cats chance in hell I'll be voting for the current Tory and so will vote Labour in next GE

Motheroffourdragons · 12/04/2024 08:59

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Blackcats7 · 12/04/2024 08:56

I am feeling highly delighted and full of anticipation to see the tories annihilated as they so richly deserve.

BunniesRUs · 12/04/2024 08:54

No I cant vote Labour. Keir on Gaza has been abhorrent and so has my local MP.

BIossomtoes · 12/04/2024 08:51

I don’t feel any excitement. This is very different from 1997. The relief of being free from the Tories will be like having a boil lanced.

lorien9 · 12/04/2024 08:36

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 11/04/2024 17:33

I'm feeling good. After many years Labour has finally got its act together and is electable instead of fannying around playing at lefty ideology.

This!

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 12/04/2024 08:31

I agree about the genocide. I'm not happy about Labours foreign policy all over, where war is concerned.