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Cameron for next Tory leader?

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DearSilverGirl · 05/04/2024 17:50

I keep seeing this discussed and wondered what others think. I'm not a Conservative so wouldn't vote for them either way but it's amazing to me that his name is back in the hat.

I suppose positives are he's not a far right nut, he's reasonably statesman-like, he's associated with an era of relative competence and (unlike a lot of them) he won't lose his seat at the next election because he doesn't have one. Also people have heard of him, which doesn't sound much but it's amazing how low recognition is for a lot of people, even among party members.

But he must be very unpopular with Brexiteers, he's unpopular with Remainers (although are there any left in the Tories?) and can they really get away with a leader on the HoL in 2024?

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ACynicalDad · 07/07/2024 09:20

I liked him, I think making him Foreign Secretary was a great call but he’d need a by election in the next couple of weeks and frankly I think the country needs to move on from the Brexit era. I think the part not behind it can build a better relationship with Europe but still out of the EU and the next Tory government, which may not be for 10+ years needs to have left it in the past.

SerendipityJane · 07/04/2024 11:19

On a serious note, if Cameron were to become an MP, then it should be the final nail in the coffin of the House of Lords as a part of government. No need to abolish it - we all need to see what robes and furs look like "on". But they can fuck off with their power over us.

AnotherOxonResident · 07/04/2024 11:13

Witney constituency would have him back in an instant. He was a good local MP as well as being high profile. Robert Courts is terrible.

SerendipityJane · 07/04/2024 11:09

Hoppinggreen · 07/04/2024 11:02

Cameron was the last Conservative MP I actually voted for BUT then Brexit, which I will forever loathe him for.
I wont be voting Conservative again unless its a completely different party

I actually got to see him give a "Cameron Direct" before the 2010 election at a local school. The video of this one wasn't put up on CCHQ. He was there for about 30 minutes and lost control of the discussion about 10 seconds in.

In his defence it was clear there was "something" going on, as despite everyone who asked a question having a job and a house, they all seemed concerned about people that hadn't got one or the other "because of them". The one time he got to speak about the NHS, an anaesthetist from South Africa asked why they should stay in the UK since we hated foreigners.

I think we know how that ended.

Hoppinggreen · 07/04/2024 11:02

Cameron was the last Conservative MP I actually voted for BUT then Brexit, which I will forever loathe him for.
I wont be voting Conservative again unless its a completely different party

EnjoyingTheSilence · 07/04/2024 10:57

Cameron competent? Are you having a laugh?

Who gave us the referendum? That worked out well. As did austerity

InTheUpsideDownToday · 07/04/2024 10:40

47% of the votes is actually a minority. Think the other parties need to group together strategically first the general election and put forward one candidate.

Justbetweenus · 07/04/2024 10:34

Churchview · 07/04/2024 10:16

George Osborne says that austerity was a mistake.

Does he? I listened to him being interviewed for a podcast a year ago and he was defending it then. Infuriating!!

AlmondNutbutter · 07/04/2024 10:31

The fool who gave us austerity, Brexit, hug-a-hoodie, the Big Society - aka volunteering (who ever knew that already existed!)? If he recommends one course of action, I'll probably plump for the one he discarded.

That's a no from me then.

Churchview · 07/04/2024 10:22

Misthios · 07/04/2024 09:28

is he up for it though? He's been there, done it, got the t-shirt (and the peerage). He might not want to go back into all of that again, however good/bad we think he might be at the job.

This is a man who, in the face of the debacle of his entire career, wrote a book about himself, accepted a peerage and took the role of Foreign Secretary.

His arrogance, sense of entitlement and certainty that his class of boy was born to rule give every indication that, if the chance arose, he'd jump at the chance to be PM again.

Churchview · 07/04/2024 10:16

dubsie · 07/04/2024 09:03

Sorry but Cameron is an absolute idiot and responsible for the mess we have now. I can remember his big society and austerity....decades of decline to look forward to.

Even Boris was brave enough to accept that austerity caused more harm than it solved

George Osborne says that austerity was a mistake.

Misthios · 07/04/2024 09:28

is he up for it though? He's been there, done it, got the t-shirt (and the peerage). He might not want to go back into all of that again, however good/bad we think he might be at the job.

Zonder · 07/04/2024 09:22

Not even an actual constituency. And the one they're in is predicted to comfortably switch to labour in the GE.

dubsie · 07/04/2024 09:03

DearSilverGirl · 05/04/2024 17:50

I keep seeing this discussed and wondered what others think. I'm not a Conservative so wouldn't vote for them either way but it's amazing to me that his name is back in the hat.

I suppose positives are he's not a far right nut, he's reasonably statesman-like, he's associated with an era of relative competence and (unlike a lot of them) he won't lose his seat at the next election because he doesn't have one. Also people have heard of him, which doesn't sound much but it's amazing how low recognition is for a lot of people, even among party members.

But he must be very unpopular with Brexiteers, he's unpopular with Remainers (although are there any left in the Tories?) and can they really get away with a leader on the HoL in 2024?

Sorry but Cameron is an absolute idiot and responsible for the mess we have now. I can remember his big society and austerity....decades of decline to look forward to.

Even Boris was brave enough to accept that austerity caused more harm than it solved

CheerfulBunny · 05/04/2024 21:37

As long as it's not fucking Boris Johnson, I don't really care. Honestly, what is the deal with politics these days? It's just a constant rotation of the same sodding morons who refuse to go away. Are there no energetic, thrusting, young leaders rising through the ranks?
Don't even get me started on the US presidential elections - they've REALLY got problems..

Hoplittlebunnyhophophopandstop · 05/04/2024 21:14

SerendipityJane · 05/04/2024 18:14

Well, only if the Tories lose the next election - and that is a pretty big if right now.

It’s a very small if right now. Labour are on track for a bigger land slide than Tony Blair had when he became PM.

CaterhamReconstituted · 05/04/2024 21:12

Bromptotoo · 05/04/2024 18:11

A PM (or leader of the opposition) in the lords wasn't acceptable 60 years ago, hence Alec Douglas-Home renouncing the peerage and being found a safe seat after Macmillan fell.

I don't know whether a Life Peer like Cameron can renounce but the safe seat bit would be. to say the least, challenging.

It’s technically possible, but practically difficult. He could be parachuted into a safe seat though.

Churchview · 05/04/2024 21:04

The article is pretty damning about the Tory's chances in the next election.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 05/04/2024 20:59

That's a Council election in a Tory heartland. Completely irrelevant with regard to a UK-wide General Election.

Churchview · 05/04/2024 19:46

If Cameron becomes PM that will mean that since September 2022. under the Tories, we've had three Prime Ministers -

Liz Truss - who wasn't voted in as PM
Rishi Sunak - who wasn't voted in a PM
David Cameron - who wasn't even voted in as an MP.

Also, during that time we've had three Chancellors of the Exchequer.

These have included the shortest serving PM and the shortest serving Chancellor (exluding a previous chancellor who died in office).

Thank goodness we have the strong and stable Tories in power otherwise things might be a right embarrassing shambles.

Autumn1990 · 05/04/2024 19:31

I think they’ll probably have to recycle a past PM or leader as they’re running out of options

ILoveLegDay · 05/04/2024 19:25

There are new reasons every day... 🤳🍆

@SerendipityJane

Zonder · 05/04/2024 19:14

SerendipityJane · 05/04/2024 19:11

Is there any reason why they shouldn't ?

Maybe because so many of the electorate don't want to vote for them?

Is there any reason why you think they could win?

SerendipityJane · 05/04/2024 19:11

ILoveLegDay · 05/04/2024 18:17

You think the Conservative and Unionist party will win? @SerendipityJane

Edited

Is there any reason why they shouldn't ?

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