Is Keir Starmer too boring to be prime minister?

Boring isn't the problem. I don't know what he stands for or if the Labour party know what biological sex is. Can't vote for a party who presided over decades and decades and decades of deprivation in some of our biggest cities.

”know what a woman is”

That phrase is about as relevant as “moral panic” “culture wars” or whatever shite TRA aligned posters use. Including Labour in that, as a way to deflect and ‘not talk about it’.

It’s sex based rights for women that some of us care about.

Both Keir and Rishi are interesting in that they've risen from fairly normal backgrounds via good educations, and in Rishi's case an exceptional marriage, to positions of national and international prominence. You may not like either of them but they've clearly got more oomph than the vast majority of people. Yes Rishi's parents were well paid professionals who managed to send him to public school, but it's a long way from there to where he's reached.

I guess you could see Rishi as the Kate Middleton of politics, which is interesting by anyone's standards.

I'd say that stability, efficiency, the rule of law and direction will be the the difference Labour will campaign on. The Tories would be very silly to campaign on opposing the trans shitshow they've been responsible for.

I mean they can try, but most people have copped on to the CCHQ lie "at least the Tories know what a woman is".

I don't know anything about sports? Okay, I defer to Sharon Davies and her concern for grassroot sports where mediocre athletes are stealing women's stepping stones to professional recognition.

You can refer me to what you like.

Shall I refer you to British swimmings policies on transgender athletes? Or swim England across all aquatics sports?

Just because there has been issues and governments have ignored them and athletes have spoken out doesn't mean that nothing has been done.

Sports have made changes and as you've specifically referred to Sharon Davies I'm happy to discuss swimming with you.

Tell me about how your swimmers has experienced problems with trans in sport and I'll tell you about what my ds has faced and the policies he swims under

But he's a man of the people! He buys mince pies.

Is Rishi interesting? I'd say he's boring and a complete spoon....the guy doesn't live on planet earth

What are the Tories' policies for the next five years other than Rwanda? They keep u-turning or gormlessly uttering slogans and vague non-specifics. Although they are planning to make the lives of the disabled harder.

Anyway, let's wait a few weeks for the election manifestos and we'll see more clearly who stands for what.

Still waiting for an answer to:

Can you name one Tory MP boo-ing from the sidelines when a female MP of any ilk spoke about the importance of codifying woman as a sex and not a series of stereotypes? Or one female Tory MP who was told not to attend a party conference for heretical opinions on gender?

So far I have had Cleverly is mean and Mordaunt is a moron - happy to agree with both statements but neither address the question. It's almost like if you keep flinging shit you expect the original question will be lost

So far Starmer is ok to stay silent, someone might steal his ideas after all

Beyond that a caring look in his eyes* but no extra funding

Something about off shore processing ‘working’ ie a process for rising numbers

All wrapped in gender ideology and no challenge, or like Duffield you’re out

At least he’s boring so that’s good

*unless you want sex based rights then ‘no one is talking about that’

Probably, he was an arse as well.

Isn't that a David Cameron quote?

It might work

How are you defining ‘work’?

If you mean rapidly rising numbers then yes it’ll do that for sure.

It’s not a deterrent so people will have to choose. Off shore then increasing numbers processed and arriving or something more like Aus which works

I don't know anything about sports? Okay, I defer to Sharon Davies and her concern for grassroot sports where mediocre athletes are stealing women's stepping stones to professional recognition.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sharron-davies-mediocre-trans-athletes-steal-medals-from-women-hxg2xng0l

The Tories did. Remember Penny Mordaunt giving out at the Despatch Box that TWAW and TMAM? She was talking about the Maternity Bill!

It might work though. Remind me how many people (apart from Home Secretaries) have been sent to Rwanda.

Off shore processing isn’t cheap either

Even Starmer has woken up to the problem. The solution will cost a huge amount though as numbers will continue to rise, just somewhere else instead

Try again - women as a biology, women as a sex class, women in health services, women in sport, children in school, free speech, safeguarding....you'd throw all this away because you are too dim or reluctant to see the issue at play.

You clearly don't know anything about sport etc. they have moved very recently to sex classes and it's now female and male/open to include transgender athletes and those who identify as a different gender.

Only female sex born athletes can compete in the female category.

It doesn't need a government to make these decisions.

Extra funding isn’t necessary, reallocating existing funding will do nicely. How many millions has the Rwanda fiasco cost to date? And that’s just one example of Tory profligacy.

Boring as he might be it won’t provide extra funding or make incoming issues go away. He’ll get as tangled as he always does in interviews

Would you like Braverman? I'll happily donate her 😂

Indeed. If ever there was a time for unity it’s now - with Labour 20 points ahead in the polls for over a year. I personally think they’ve given up.

The tories are a broad church and know when to come together. They clearly do not know when to come together or they would be doing it now!

The Spectator (biased much lol)

I WOULD KILL FOR BORING.
Bring it on

He can't be any worse than what we've had recently

Really,? Because I think this will be his - hold my beer - moment.