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Is Keir Starmer too boring to be prime minister?

336 replies

Tulipsroses · 29/12/2023 09:34

I was reading an article in the Spectator this morning. Interesting to hear what people think.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-keir-starmer-too-boring-to-be-prime-minister/

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DarkDarkNight · 29/12/2023 10:21

He needs to be able to lead the country not entertain it. I don’t care whether he’s boring or not. Sunak isn’t dripping in charisma and I didn’t even get a say about him (or several before him) running the country.

MegCleary · 29/12/2023 10:21

Any policy they announce the tories rob.
Anyone actually know him, if he is ‘boring’ and the spectator is full or right wing nut jobs

Boomboom22 · 29/12/2023 10:19

Hmm, he is ver6 very unappealing. He puts people off. Also not sure being a human rights lawyer is good for pm, they often go against what is best for the country. Amnesty is a disaster of a charity nowadays. And he doesn't appear to have strong morals, or understand biology. He said out loud that women have a cervix is something that shouldn't be said so he loves compelled speech and prefers to keep quiet on important issues. He was a huge hypocrite over the curry/ party thing. Within his own party he lied about his beliefs to get the leadership.

BobnLen · 29/12/2023 10:18

He does seem to be seriously sitting on the fence at the moment like he is letting the Tories lose it rather than Labour win it.

caringcarer · 29/12/2023 10:16

I don't care about boring, but Keir thinks some women can have a penis. I can't get past that.

crew2022 · 29/12/2023 10:15

Boring is ok.
But having no real policies and not being clear on his views is not.
If there was a general election I really don't know who I'd vote for. I don't want conservatives but I don't see Labour as a viable alternative.

Pelham678 · 29/12/2023 10:13

0palfrootee · 29/12/2023 09:47

I'm not looking for excitement in a prime minister tbh. My bar is pretty low after the past few years but I'll gladly take competent and dull. I really just want some grown-ups running the show.

This.

Always thought it was absolutely pathetic that people claimed to vote for someone you could go down the pub with. That's how you end up with fucking Boris Johnson or Donald Trump.

FFS we need someone who doesn't want to be on the political equivalent of Britain's Got Talent. We want someone who is actually going to think about things and not put their snout in the trough - Michelle Mone, Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees Mogg I'm looking at you. 🤑

Newgirls · 29/12/2023 10:12

A clever human rights lawyer without scandal to his name. Yes please! We need more of these people in government and fewer Tory twats who seem to be out for themselves in every way

MrsWimpy · 29/12/2023 10:11

Morally corrupt? how exactly. The man is a human rights lawyer.

He's not exciting, edgy and all the things Johnson might have been but come on.

The amount of people who just spout what they've heard because it makes them sound clever is ridiculous.

I don't agree with some of the politics (gender identity etc) but it's inevitable that those issues would be contentious

RafaistheKingofClay · 29/12/2023 10:10

The idea that you could be too boring to be PM is why this country is in the hole it is.

Bobbotgegrinch · 29/12/2023 10:10

Jf20 · 29/12/2023 10:04

He can speak in the commons if in the cabinet or pm.

But you can't be leader of the conservative party unless your "elected to the commons".

Yes, the Tories could change their internal rules, but they'd get absolutely crucified for it. It'd be electoral suicide (even more than their current fortunes).

The only way Cameron becomes PM before the General Election is if they parachute him in for a by-election somewhere, which he'd then have to win.

BobnLen · 29/12/2023 10:09

He is a bit boring like John Major was but he was ok.

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 29/12/2023 10:08

That link about how a PM is appointed says "A Prime Minister must be or about to become an MP. A peer has not served as premier since 19022. Sir Alec Douglas-Home was a peer upon his appointment as Prime Minister on 19 October 1963, but renounced his peerage four days later and was elected an MP at a by-election on 7 Novemberr."

DGPP · 29/12/2023 10:07

I am voting for labour because I like their policies. I don’t care if Keir is boring!

WhatWouldTheDoctorDo · 29/12/2023 10:06

I want progressive centrist policies, gravitas and intellect. I'm not sure he's got the right mix of all three for me. There's such a woeful lack of decent grown up politicians (and policy) across all the parties though.

But Labour has to be better than the Tories on a range of things, and I'd like to see SNP start to lose their grip here in Scotland, so they'll get my vote.

I'm also gender critical and I despise Labour's approach on it, but there are too many ills in society just now for me let that stop me voting for them.

Jf20 · 29/12/2023 10:04

Bobbotgegrinch · 29/12/2023 10:03

But then he's still not an MP so can't speak in the commons

He can speak in the commons if in the cabinet or pm.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 29/12/2023 10:04

If boring = sensible and competent then that's ok with we. We do not need a showman running the country it's not a celebrity competition.

therealcookiemonster · 29/12/2023 10:03

since when did we need our political leaders to be fun interesting? I think the more boring the better. we have had enough 'exciting' bullshit artists

although don't agree with many of keirs policies - at this point I would vote for Larry the cat to get the tories out.

Bobbotgegrinch · 29/12/2023 10:03

Jf20 · 29/12/2023 10:00

Yes, he resigns his lords position. It’s been done once before.

But then he's still not an MP so can't speak in the commons

IClaudine · 29/12/2023 10:02

AIstolemylunch · 29/12/2023 09:38

I don't care that he's boring. I do care that he's inept, ineffective and presides over a cabinet that includes people who think men can have cervixes.

Yes, at least the Tories know what a woman is. They're the ones you sedate🙄.

SutWytTi · 29/12/2023 10:02

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 29/12/2023 09:59

Cameron, Braverman, there are a few who could throw their hat in the ring .

To replace Sunak pre-election? Cameron isn't an MP. Can you have a prime minister who sits in the House of Lords and isn't allowed to speak in the commons??

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/how-is-a-prime-minister-appointed/

Jf20 · 29/12/2023 10:00

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 29/12/2023 09:59

Cameron, Braverman, there are a few who could throw their hat in the ring .

To replace Sunak pre-election? Cameron isn't an MP. Can you have a prime minister who sits in the House of Lords and isn't allowed to speak in the commons??

Yes, he resigns his lords position. It’s been done once before.

Jf20 · 29/12/2023 09:59

PostChristmasPaunch · 29/12/2023 09:57

If labour win it’s as people voted against the tories rather than for labour.

I think this is true every single time the government goes from one party to another - whether it's from Labour to Cons or the other way round.

For the most part, people tend to vote for the status quo and so a vote for something different is always a rejection of the current state.

To an extent yes, I think Boris though did have a huge amount of people voting for him and at the time was popular.but of course everyone hated corbyn

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 29/12/2023 09:59

Cameron, Braverman, there are a few who could throw their hat in the ring .

To replace Sunak pre-election? Cameron isn't an MP. Can you have a prime minister who sits in the House of Lords and isn't allowed to speak in the commons??

0palfrootee · 29/12/2023 09:58

beguilingeyes · 29/12/2023 09:56

"If the tories change leader, labour is in trouble again."

And who would they pick? The current party is a talent vacuum. Rees-Mogg? Braverman? James Cleverly. Sunak was barrel scraping. They're out of ideas now.

Totally agree with this. If the Tories change leader again, it is they who will be in trouble (even more than they are now), not Labour. It's not just the lack of credible alternatives but the sheer number of leaders they have gone through in such a short space of time. They're a basket case.