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Is Keir Starmer too boring to be prime minister?

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Tulipsroses · 29/12/2023 09:34

I was reading an article in the Spectator this morning. Interesting to hear what people think.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-keir-starmer-too-boring-to-be-prime-minister/

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itsgettingweird · 29/12/2023 12:45

Maireas · 29/12/2023 09:47

Anyway, you don't vote for the PM, that can change during a government, so the best thing is to vote for an MP who you think will serve your constituency well, and/or contribute to a majority for a particular party.

I have an issue here too - my current MP is Braverman 😳

I wish Labour did a better job locally but they don't. So in my case I'm voting tactfully for Labour to win the country and hoping against the odds Braverman and her views bugger off!

itsgettingweird · 29/12/2023 12:43

No I do t think he's boring. He has a very quick dry wit.

Thing is against these showboaters - who are destroying the country btw - he looks dull.

But I'd rather someone like him running the country than boys who treat PMqs as a indi school common room debate where it's all about the jeers and "likes".

I would like Yvette copper or Rachel Reeves as leader of Labour Party but actually it's been pointed out they are best in current roles and I do agree.

As a trio they will be great for the country imo. And I'm a swing biter so have no skin in any parties game.

chattyness · 29/12/2023 12:40

He is very dull and boring but more than that he's completely out of touch with reality. The labour party is a shambles right now but so are all the rest !

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 29/12/2023 12:39

Boring doesn’t bother me, but his tendency to sit on every single fence does.

ChristmasinBurrRidge · 29/12/2023 12:37

northstars · 29/12/2023 11:38

What a prime minister needs to be is honest, competent, have integrity

Do you think Starmer has these qualities? I have always been a Labour voter but do not see Starmer as any of those things.

To me, he is a weak fence-sitter who tries to appease everyone but fails miserably. His stances on the ceasefire and women’s rights have been appalling.

Not to mention his Wales mosque visit debacle https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-67217018.amp ,
after which he blatantly denied ever saying that Israel has the right to cut off food, water and fuel.

I definitely think the country needs a change from the Tories, but Starmer is no leader.

Totally agree. He is weak and spineless and that is the reason I could never view him as a credible Prime Minister.

Lilithlogic · 29/12/2023 12:35

He is a politician not a fucking celebrity. I'm sure some people would prefer an x factor version of an election

Heyhoherewegoagain · 29/12/2023 12:32

PheobeBebe · 29/12/2023 12:21

Since when did English politics become f-ing love Island? Who gives a crap if he is boring, can he do the job? I'll have Starmer over any tory any day of the week. He's smart, has a great background of law, and does seem to have some morals about him. Unlike tories who just want to serve themselves, piss money up the wall while lining their own pockets, while messing up our public services and telling us to cook meals for 30p if we're hungry. No-one on a high average wage (or lower) is better off for having tories in charge, and I just wish people would stop voting against their own interests in search of an 'interesting' pm

Sorry to be that poster, but it’s BRITISH politics, not English

PheobeBebe · 29/12/2023 12:21

Since when did English politics become f-ing love Island? Who gives a crap if he is boring, can he do the job? I'll have Starmer over any tory any day of the week. He's smart, has a great background of law, and does seem to have some morals about him. Unlike tories who just want to serve themselves, piss money up the wall while lining their own pockets, while messing up our public services and telling us to cook meals for 30p if we're hungry. No-one on a high average wage (or lower) is better off for having tories in charge, and I just wish people would stop voting against their own interests in search of an 'interesting' pm

Roussette · 29/12/2023 11:44

RafaistheKingofClay · 29/12/2023 10:10

The idea that you could be too boring to be PM is why this country is in the hole it is.

This ^^

Bring on boring. Give me that any day than an idiot who uses a balloon to fluff up his hair before PMQs

northstars · 29/12/2023 11:38

What a prime minister needs to be is honest, competent, have integrity

Do you think Starmer has these qualities? I have always been a Labour voter but do not see Starmer as any of those things.

To me, he is a weak fence-sitter who tries to appease everyone but fails miserably. His stances on the ceasefire and women’s rights have been appalling.

Not to mention his Wales mosque visit debacle https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-67217018.amp ,
after which he blatantly denied ever saying that Israel has the right to cut off food, water and fuel.

I definitely think the country needs a change from the Tories, but Starmer is no leader.

South Wales Islamic Centre

Sir Keir Starmer accused of misrepresenting mosque - BBC News

Butetown Islamic centre accuses the Labour leader of misrepresenting the visit on social media.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-67217018.amp

WinterDeWinter · 29/12/2023 11:21

I agree with other gc fems - I will hold my nose and vote Labour as I have done all my life, despite the appalling misogyny at the heart of how they have treated us - simply because pronouns on nhs badges won’t matter if there’s no nhs.

on the Cameron question - plenty of minor MPs in safe seats have been ‘encouraged’ to retire to make way for the chosen one.

Startingagainandagain · 29/12/2023 10:54

Forgot to add both Thatcher and Blair were lawyers too...

Shinyandnew1 · 29/12/2023 10:49

Politically conservative publication slags off Labour leader-what a surprise!

I’d much rather have a boring PM than any of the lying, self-serving rabble currently in cabinet.

Startingagainandagain · 29/12/2023 10:46

What a bizarre concept...

What a prime minister needs to be is honest, competent, have integrity and be devoted to public service and the good of the country (rather than in it to make money for himself and a few of his rich dodgy mates...).

You are not electing an entertainer.

Angela Merkel was a good example of a good leader: respected, efficient and someone who did not care about soundbites and headlines and instead just got on with the job.

I assume electing clowns like Boris, Farage and Trump has made people realise by now that dodgy, lying, narcissistic people do not make good leaders...

Anyway seems like people are preparing for a May election so I am sure we will see more threads popping up on here and scraping the bottom of the barrel to try to smear Starmer.

If the worst thing you can say about someone is that they are 'boring' and used to be a barrister then you have already lost the argument...

mumda · 29/12/2023 10:44

Philandbill · 29/12/2023 09:39

He is dull but I'd a thousand times rather have dull than the Tories for another four years. Angela Rayner isn't dull though.

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1270374388488167428?t=OwjHIFro0K5xpGz8RwjKAw&s=19

Lest we forget

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1270374388488167428?s=19&t=OwjHIFro0K5xpGz8RwjKAw

cansu · 29/12/2023 10:41

Fgs is this all the right have to offer? Being competent and having some morals is required. Being exciting or a good laugh at parties is not required. Do we say we don't want a boring consultant or solicitor or dentist or financial advisor? Do we say that we would prefer to have the slightly incompetent jokey nurse? No. Why do different standards apply to the PM?

EasternStandard · 29/12/2023 10:37

BobnLen · 29/12/2023 10:18

He does seem to be seriously sitting on the fence at the moment like he is letting the Tories lose it rather than Labour win it.

He’ll have to have a view eventually

beguilingeyes · 29/12/2023 10:37

Cameron?! Do you really think the country would swallow that after he ran away last time?

Whataretheodds · 29/12/2023 10:36

BobnLen · 29/12/2023 10:18

He does seem to be seriously sitting on the fence at the moment like he is letting the Tories lose it rather than Labour win it.

The Art of War says "don't interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake".

I would also like to have a bit more oomph from him. The Gaza situation escalated significantly after he made his initial comments - at the time he was defending the right of a sovreign state to defend itself against outside agression which is exactly what you'd expect from a PM/PM in waiting, but I think it's a shame he wasn't more emphatic sooner as the situation evolved.

Heyhoherewegoagain · 29/12/2023 10:35

AnnaMagnani · 29/12/2023 09:41

I think boring is a selling point TBH.

Look at the chaos Boris created. We need someone competent and interested in effective government not self promotion.

Absolutely agree. It’s time people stopped voting for the personalities and started looking at the policies-that’s why the country’s so fucked up!

vincettenoir · 29/12/2023 10:34

The boring thing is a myth. Wednesday is my non working day and I sometimes watch PMQs and both he and Angela Rayner are on fire!! He is always very well prepared and a good speaker.

I think it's easy enough to convince people he's boring because he is not involved in any scandals and he doesn't tout any bs policies (like Rwanda). And yes he's a million miles away in character from Boris and Trump. But the right wing press have done a pretty amazing job in convincing people that's a bad thing. Don't fall for it!

YoullCatchYourDeathInTheFog · 29/12/2023 10:32

Boomboom22 · 29/12/2023 10:19

Hmm, he is ver6 very unappealing. He puts people off. Also not sure being a human rights lawyer is good for pm, they often go against what is best for the country. Amnesty is a disaster of a charity nowadays. And he doesn't appear to have strong morals, or understand biology. He said out loud that women have a cervix is something that shouldn't be said so he loves compelled speech and prefers to keep quiet on important issues. He was a huge hypocrite over the curry/ party thing. Within his own party he lied about his beliefs to get the leadership.

And how was he a hypocrite on the curry thing? Johnson, Sunak and the entire number 10 staff broke the law. Starmer had a go at them for it.

Certain sources then found evidence of an event Starmer was at which they said was illegal. Starmer said that it wasn't illegal and staked his career on it. The cops looked into it and no, it wasn't illegal (not really surprising, if anyone is qualified to judge it would be KS).

Faceache45 · 29/12/2023 10:30

Whataretheodds · 29/12/2023 09:50

Morally corrupt? How so?

Anyone who refuses yo back a ceasefire is morally corrupt. He said he did not believe a ceasefire “is the correct position now”. It's a political move rather than a humanitarian move. We should care about lives rather than promoting our political position and demonstrating that Labour is not anti-Semitic.

YoullCatchYourDeathInTheFog · 29/12/2023 10:27

Boomboom22 · 29/12/2023 10:19

Hmm, he is ver6 very unappealing. He puts people off. Also not sure being a human rights lawyer is good for pm, they often go against what is best for the country. Amnesty is a disaster of a charity nowadays. And he doesn't appear to have strong morals, or understand biology. He said out loud that women have a cervix is something that shouldn't be said so he loves compelled speech and prefers to keep quiet on important issues. He was a huge hypocrite over the curry/ party thing. Within his own party he lied about his beliefs to get the leadership.

He worked as a human rights lawyer, but he also worked as DPP, very much in charge of locking up the bad guys.

Yes if you look over his long record of cases then you'll find stuff you personally disagree with, whether from the right or left wing, but that's the price he pays for actually having done stuff.

bozzabollix · 29/12/2023 10:22

We have had such drama in the last thirteen years, all of it so bad I’ve literally switched off as I’m so disgusted. Boring and competent would be the best thing ever. I long for us to be dull and safe again.

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