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Is Keir Starmer too boring to be prime minister?

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Tulipsroses · 29/12/2023 09:34

I was reading an article in the Spectator this morning. Interesting to hear what people think.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-keir-starmer-too-boring-to-be-prime-minister/

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MellersSmellers · 25/07/2024 08:47

I'm now looking forward to politics being so boring I don't have to worry about it, because things just happen like they used to pre Tories:

  • I can get a doctors appointment,
  • nurses, teachers and care staff are well paid and motivated
  • my kids have a chance of owning their own homes
  • Councils have enough money to clean the streets and fill the potholes
  • asylum seekers are assessed in a timely and humane manner and if their claim is accepted they are allowed to build their lives in the UK without relying on the UK taxpayer
Etc etc Bring on boring
beguilingeyes · 06/07/2024 14:39

The appointments of Sir Patrick Valance and James Timpson are very not-boring indeed. I'm really impressed with those two.

upinaballoon · 06/07/2024 13:47

Is Keir Starmer too boring to be Prime Minister? No.

BeachParty · 06/07/2024 11:15

Rather a "boring" Prime Minister than a "personality" one or stoking up fears one.
Makes me feel the grown ups are back in charge and a bit "safer" all round 🙂

ILikeDinosaurs · 05/07/2024 13:17

It's not a politician's job to be entertaining. We have entertainers for that. Would you rather a clown like Boris again? Give me dull but decent and get the job done.

HRTQueen · 13/04/2024 10:02

No I don’t think Sunak has particularly

Johnson has if he were on a TV debate the same time as Starmer I believe most would tune into what Johnson has to say more

That doesn’t make him a good leader but he is good at playing politics that is why he became PM

having charisma doesn’t equal being a good, honest, decent person but it’s gains you attention the press love it (Blair for instance) even if it’s to become the politician you love to despise and by gaining that extra attention gives you a platform for your voice to be heard over others

dubsie · 13/04/2024 06:48

Has Sunak got any charisma? Boris was an immature entitled Eton idiot

I think I'd choose Starmer over those two any day.

HRTQueen · 12/04/2024 23:09

No he isn’t charismatic

but he is intelligent will get on with the job, will be able to deal with difficult negotiation here and internationally, he is a man of integrity

what is isn’t is politically savvy someone who is good at politics isn’t necessarily a good leader

I think he can bring back some pride to the UK and I am looking forward to him being PM

Richardn1749 · 11/04/2024 20:52

There all boring, they've all filled there brains with so much boring useless garbage that there no room left for any common sense...

DuncinToffee · 11/01/2024 08:44

That's good to know, he was muttering about the price of fish on the other thread.

jgw1 · 11/01/2024 07:16

DuncinToffee · 10/01/2024 22:34

Oh hi Paul2023, I see you are asking exactly the same questions on another thread.

We did at least manage to establish earlier that @Paul2023 believes in the rule of law and so is pleased that there are lawyers that are willing to represent those accused of horrific crimes.

jgw1 · 11/01/2024 07:15

Jf20 · 10/01/2024 22:13

Well starmer maybe about to become a bit more interesting. The cps was involved in a number of prosecutions of post masters, yet to be announced how many was on starmers watch..

@Jf20 do you believe in the rule of law?

IClaudine · 11/01/2024 00:00

Jf20 · 10/01/2024 22:13

Well starmer maybe about to become a bit more interesting. The cps was involved in a number of prosecutions of post masters, yet to be announced how many was on starmers watch..

Sorry to disappoint, but:

While the Post Office itself prosecuted hundreds of post office operators based on the faulty Horizon IT system, it has emerged from official reviews that 10 cases taken by the CPS resulted in convictions. Three occurred while Starmer was DPP.

(Apparently he wasn't even aware of those three cases as they never crossed his desk).

Zonder · 10/01/2024 23:31

Jf20 · 10/01/2024 22:13

Well starmer maybe about to become a bit more interesting. The cps was involved in a number of prosecutions of post masters, yet to be announced how many was on starmers watch..

No connection with Starmer thankfully.

TooBigForMyBoots · 10/01/2024 23:20

Paul2023 · 10/01/2024 20:01

Last time I checked , Johnson wasn’t the PM. Sunak is. But atleast when Piers Morgan asked him what a woman is he answered it.

See above post , it doesn’t really affect me who wins , Starmer or Sunak because I don’t think either will transform my life significantly.

That was only one of the answers he's given. Previously he said a woman is whatever Boris Johnson said. I dare say if he got a big enough bung from Blossom Hill he'd go all Swiss Tony and tell us a woman is like a fine wine.Grin

DuncinToffee · 10/01/2024 22:38

Jf20 · 10/01/2024 22:13

Well starmer maybe about to become a bit more interesting. The cps was involved in a number of prosecutions of post masters, yet to be announced how many was on starmers watch..

Farage got community noted for saying that with:

Royal Mail Horizon prosecutions were private criminal prosecutions.

“This is not uncommon in England. Organisations like the RSPCA regularly bring private criminal prosecutions.

“The Crown Prosecution Service (and Director of Public Prosecutions) are not involved in these.”

Summarised, the Post Office prosecute their own cases and the CPS that Starmer led had no say or power over it

DuncinToffee · 10/01/2024 22:34

Oh hi Paul2023, I see you are asking exactly the same questions on another thread.

Jf20 · 10/01/2024 22:13

Well starmer maybe about to become a bit more interesting. The cps was involved in a number of prosecutions of post masters, yet to be announced how many was on starmers watch..

beguilingeyes · 10/01/2024 22:09

Moier · 10/01/2024 19:41

I don't like him. I don't think he's intelligent enough.
I love Sunak.

Oh my aching sides. A barrister who became a KC and DPP versus someone who doesn't know how to use a debit card and can't remember anything he did during the pandemic. Preceded by a woman who is as thick as mince.

BIossomtoes · 10/01/2024 22:01

Zonder · 10/01/2024 21:49

Scraping the barrel there.

Indeed. Especially when we’ve had a PM who can’t remember how many children he’s got.

Zonder · 10/01/2024 21:49

Desecratedcoconut · 10/01/2024 19:26

What about someone who can't remember what sex his children are?

Scraping the barrel there.

IClaudine · 10/01/2024 20:17

Paul has adopted a Clav-esque vanishing act. Make a change from I have to go out now, I suppose.

jgw1 · 10/01/2024 20:16

Paul2023 · 10/01/2024 20:14

Isn’t that the point of a trial ? To deter if someone is innocent or guilty ?

Im off now to lead my transgender life at night as Paula.. night all. Ps , I’ll Google what a woman is !

It is indeed the point of a trial.

So one would look fairly daft if one were to criticise a lawyer for doing a good job by their client.

I am glad we have clarified that.

Paul2023 · 10/01/2024 20:14

jgw1 · 10/01/2024 20:08

That is good to here.
So you are perfectly happy I presume for someone who is accused of a crime to be represented in court by a lawyer and if that court decides that the accused is not guilty you will respect that decision?

Isn’t that the point of a trial ? To deter if someone is innocent or guilty ?

Im off now to lead my transgender life at night as Paula.. night all. Ps , I’ll Google what a woman is !

RafaistheKingofClay · 10/01/2024 20:12

Paul2023 · 10/01/2024 20:06

I believe in respecting other countries rules of law and not interfering in their laws.

you may want to bring that up with the current government and the foreign office. Not to mention any number of human rights organisations and trade deal negotiators.