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anyone seen starmer?

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Offwiththecircus · 18/12/2023 22:30

From what I can see, after his entirely unconvincing "position" on gaza he has essentially disappeared from view. Blair notoriously used to do this a lot when he wanted to avoid legitimate questions, leaving brown nosing slaves to face questions from the proles.
So over to the mnet net, which I know has wise tentacles everwhere
Has the famous SIR dropped into your church fete/tombola recently? Selfies welcome.

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Clavinova · 12/01/2024 21:21

DuncinToffee
He sold the field he bought for his parents after they died, how dare he

Starmer's parents died in 2015 and 2018 - I guess it depends whether Starmer has any plans to increase capital gains tax for the rest of us (if he becomes PM) as to whether it was the right time to sell in December 2022.

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 21:15

DuncinToffee
Getting back to what Labour stands for
Labour’s Child Health Action Plan

Out of the 6 actions in the list - 3 are to be funded by abolishing (cough, cough) the non-dom tax status:

1.Cut waiting lists for children
How will Labour pay for this?
By abolishing the non-dom tax status.

3.Transform NHS dentistry
How will Labour pay for this?
By abolishing the non-dom tax status.

6.Introduce breakfast clubs for all primary school children
How will Labour pay for this?
By abolishing the non-dom tax status.

I've posted several times pointing out that Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves are being somewhat economical with the truth when they talk about abolishing non-dom tax status - the Guardian has caught up at last;

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/12/flagship-labour-plan-scrap-non-dom-tax-breaks

Labour considers non-dom tax plan that would raise £1bn less than initial pledge

Party may allow non-domiciles to live in Britain for four years before ending tax break, it is understood

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/12/flagship-labour-plan-scrap-non-dom-tax-breaks

DuncinToffee · 12/01/2024 21:01

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 20:54

IClaudine
I would have to listen to what exactly he said to Ferrari and can't be bothered right now as Ferrari's voice would put me off my glass of wine

I can help - Ferrari asked Starmer; "How many people were there in total"?

he didn't lie under oath unlike Sunak

That's quite an accusation without any proof.

I have said before, I am no Starmer fan for various reasons. But he is still far and away a more principled man than Sunak

I disagree -
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/09/keri-starmer-defends-insensitive-labour-advert-on-child-sexual-assaults

He is standing by what he said, how is that unprincipled?

Maybe he should have answered with 'I don't recall'?

DuncinToffee · 12/01/2024 20:55

He sold the field he bought for his parents after they died, how dare he. He should have rented it out at an inflated price.

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 20:54

IClaudine
I would have to listen to what exactly he said to Ferrari and can't be bothered right now as Ferrari's voice would put me off my glass of wine

I can help - Ferrari asked Starmer; "How many people were there in total"?

he didn't lie under oath unlike Sunak

That's quite an accusation without any proof.

I have said before, I am no Starmer fan for various reasons. But he is still far and away a more principled man than Sunak

I disagree -
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/09/keri-starmer-defends-insensitive-labour-advert-on-child-sexual-assaults

jgw1 · 12/01/2024 20:49

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 20:43

bastard.

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 20:43

jgw1
But he does have a donkey field

He sold it -
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-sells-donkey-sanctuary-28757467

jgw1 · 12/01/2024 20:16

DuncinToffee · 12/01/2024 20:14

If children didn't have crap parents, then they too could be like Sunak.

jgw1 · 12/01/2024 20:00

DuncinToffee · 12/01/2024 19:54

Starmer didn't break any laws either

But he does have a donkey field.

DuncinToffee · 12/01/2024 19:54

Starmer didn't break any laws either

jgw1 · 12/01/2024 19:54

IClaudine · 12/01/2024 19:48

@Clavinova I would have to listen to what exactly he said to Ferrari and can't be bothered right now as Ferrari's voice would put me off my glass of wine.

He may have fudged things, which isn't great. But he didn't lie under oath unlike Sunak.

I have said before, I am no Starmer fan for various reasons. But he is still far and away a more principled man than Sunak and I would much rather have Starmer running the country,

Edited

Dont worry not much longer to wait until Starmer is running the country.

IClaudine · 12/01/2024 19:48

@Clavinova I would have to listen to what exactly he said to Ferrari and can't be bothered right now as Ferrari's voice would put me off my glass of wine.

He may have fudged things, which isn't great. But he didn't lie under oath unlike Sunak.

I have said before, I am no Starmer fan for various reasons. But he is still far and away a more principled man than Sunak and I would much rather have Starmer running the country,

jgw1 · 12/01/2024 19:43

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 19:40

IClaudine

I thought we were discussing Keir Starmer's memory problem - not whether he had broken any Covid rules? Durham Police later confirmed there were 17 people there in total (including Starmer);

https://order-order.com/2022/05/16/starmer-revises-count-up-from-6-to-15-attendees-at-beergate/

@Clavinova you are mistaken, this thread is not for discussing but rather posting our favourite links.

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IClaudine · 12/01/2024 19:30

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 19:26

jgw1
it is your beloved Sunak who has memory problems and can't recall much

Wasn't it Keir Starmer who said there were "about 6 people" having a beer and curry with him in Durham? There were 16 other people there - how many beers did Starmer have?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/08/keir-starmer-cleared-durham-police-breaking-lockdown-rules-beer

Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner cleared by Durham police of breaking lockdown rules

Labour leader will stay in post after pledging to resign if fined for having a beer and takeaway curry with staff

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/08/keir-starmer-cleared-durham-police-breaking-lockdown-rules-beer

jgw1 · 12/01/2024 19:29

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 19:26

jgw1
it is your beloved Sunak who has memory problems and can't recall much

Wasn't it Keir Starmer who said there were "about 6 people" having a beer and curry with him in Durham? There were 16 other people there - how many beers did Starmer have?

You are quite right @Clavinova as demonstrated by this link.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

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Clavinova · 12/01/2024 19:26

jgw1
it is your beloved Sunak who has memory problems and can't recall much

Wasn't it Keir Starmer who said there were "about 6 people" having a beer and curry with him in Durham? There were 16 other people there - how many beers did Starmer have?

jgw1 · 12/01/2024 19:18

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 19:17

Perhaps you think Keir Starmer has confused himself with a waiter.

@Clavinova it is your beloved Sunak who has memory problems and can't recall much.

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 19:17

jgw1 · 12/01/2024 19:15

I think perhaps @Clavinova you have confused him with a waiter.

Perhaps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Holden_(British_politician)?

Edited

Perhaps you think Keir Starmer has confused himself with a waiter.

jgw1 · 12/01/2024 19:15

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 19:12

That's because he is dull

I thought it was because he was "ready to serve".

I think perhaps @Clavinova you have confused him with a waiter.

Perhaps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Holden_(British_politician)?

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 19:12

That's because he is dull

I thought it was because he was "ready to serve".

jgw1 · 12/01/2024 19:10

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 19:10

August 2023

Keir Starmer has accepted more free tickets to events such as sports matches, concerts and parties than the combined total of every other Labour leader since records began in 1997, openDemocracy analysis has found.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/keir-starmer-freebies-junkets-tottenham-hotspur-chelsea-coldplay-adele-google/

That's because he is dull.

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 19:10

August 2023

Keir Starmer has accepted more free tickets to events such as sports matches, concerts and parties than the combined total of every other Labour leader since records began in 1997, openDemocracy analysis has found.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/keir-starmer-freebies-junkets-tottenham-hotspur-chelsea-coldplay-adele-google/

IClaudine · 12/01/2024 19:08

Clavinova · 12/01/2024 19:06

During the 2022 Fifa World Cup, Starmer said he would refuse to visit the country due to its poor human rights record.

He was asked on LBC: "If England got to the World Cup Final in Qatar, would you go?"

Starmer replied: "No I wouldn't. I'd love to but I think that the human rights record is such that I wouldn't go and that'll be the position of the Labour party."

He said he wouldn't go to the World Cup final in Qatar. Not that he would never visit Qatar.

But if he has said that in the past, please do post the link.

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