If there was a GE today who would you vote for?

But if Labour get in … then if you think things are going to change for the better then you are going to very disappointed. Not necessarily - the size of the pie might not change by that much in the near term, but how it’s shared out will.

And to the school fee posters 🤦‍♀️ I’m sure the state system will cope with the tiny percentage of children on scholarships whose parents decide to pull them out.

And Labour (or Lib Dem if that’s better tactically).

Oh I see, so Labour are only putting VAT on private schools where there has been a decrease in birth rate in that area…fantastic!!! Maybe I will vote for them then!!!

Can you send me Labour’s plan of how they are going to accommodate children leaving the private sector into the state school system and how much this is going to cost versus the extra VAT that will be generated?

@jgw1 none of the “Giliad” posters want to answer the question about what “the only party that knows what a woman is” have done for women’s rights or to stop the erosion of their rights in the last 13 years. I have never got a straight answer out of them yet.

questioning their narrative is verboten on mn. I’ve given up. And tbh It’s the thing that will drive me away from mn. I am so sick of them shutting everyone down with this rhetoric.

I have just been reading about some predictions for the next General Election.
On the subject of woman I thought this interesting.
Current polling suggests that the Tory party will secure a lower share of the vote than at any time since universal suffrage.

This thread has reminded me of the meme about how only the stupid or the rich vote Tory and people should check their bank balance to see which they are.

It’s like looking in a mirror

Labour - best of a bad bunch.

Falls in primary school numbers tend to occur about 4 years after a fall in birth rate in that area, they really aren't that much of a surprise. Falls in secondary school numbers tend to happen about 11 years after a fall in birth rate.

I have always voted Tory but never ever again.
However, I don't feel like I can vote for anyone at the moment so like others will spoil my ballot!

I don't disagree that after 13 years there needs to be a change of governing party. But if Labour get in (as they should) then if you think things are going to change for the better then you are going to very disappointed.

Labour

I think that you misunderstand my question. Which of the parties, Labour, Lib Dems or the Greens have allowed womens (and mens) rights to be eroded during their time in government for the past 13 years?

Completely disagree that it’s easy to plan for. When pupil numbers fall, they don’t decrease in equal proportions across the country. Some areas will still be very oversubscribed and you can’t create extra places without spending a lot of extra money on infrastructure.

I think in every election a lot of voters choose the opposition on the basis of "well they can't be any worse than what we've currently got" , especially when the Governing party has been in power for more than one election cycle (like the Conservatives have).

Sadly it often turns out that they are just as worse and sometimes even more worse than the previous Government.

Despite mn Labour threads you can see other societies struggling with impact of immigration and general pressures.

Look at Italy and reaction from various EU countries over what to do about it. Disagreement and countries saying no, plus shift to the right. It won’t get easier.

Plus gender ID issue without challenge in some places and agree on who will push it here

Captured institutions have chosen to erode women’s rights and those three parties have all said publicly that they endorse that and will further strengthen the laws to erase biological women, and by extension their rights.

@Screamingabdabz 100% this - well said.

we need a govt that will give priority to the space industry

Was it Labour, the Lib Dems or the Greens who have spent the last 13 years eroding womens and indeed mens rights?

Every vote for Labour, Lib Dem or Green brings us one step closer to Gilead. I fear for girls and women under the leadership of parties who clearly hate females and won’t protect our rights. The Tories aren’t great either, but at least they haven’t completely sealed the deal to sell us down the river .

Anybody who think other parties are going to have access to more money for public services, or ‘redistribute wealth’ are dreaming. The so-called left wing parties are all talk - it’s easy when you’re in opposition. The planet is dying, immigration is now at an uncontrollable level, economies are struggling and social order is breaking down. The monied elites will protect themselves so probably best to vote Tory and at least to lock them into a veneer of public accountability and scrutiny.

Oh, I thought the other posters saying they would vote Tory because school fees were the spoof, are they serious?

Wow. All the people who don’t realise @jgw1 is being sarcastic!!

Labour.

Never Tory especially not this lot.

It is of course not evenly spread, but these things are quite easy to plan for if the government is interested in doing so.

I can't vote for my Labour MP. He thinks that people can change sex and that Im a bigot for wanting single sex spaces.

Inflation has been dropping across Europe and the USA for 6 months or more. While ours has remained stubbornly high. That’s only one indication of the CoL crisis but it’s a key one.