22nd March, the Commons Privileges Comittee investigation into Partygate

'My stepdaughter is beyond furious tonight. She wants to know where the morale boost was for her and her colleagues when they were pulling 13 hour shifts with no break.'

She will have had a break at worst still in a ppe gown in a designated 'dirty' staff area. ITU staff had more breaks than usual as all staff from theatres etc were redeployed to critical care so staff were tripping over themselves at times. Staff rooms full of donated food etc.

I do have sympathy for ward staff inundated with patients as they weren't given the same star status, ITU staff really did have what they wanted and were prioritised resources wise. I even heard of a birthday cake in the staffroom, imagine that! A 'party' whilst at work.

If only Johnson had clarified at the time leaving parties were necessary.
Never mind the funerals or weddings.

And the relevance of Harman’s necklace? The barrel is being well and truly scraped.

Imagine if in a proper court the staff were tweeting 'well he's guilty'.

Did she actually tweet that?

What do you mean by a “proper court”?

I don't think the 'sun shines out of his rear'. What i do think is they were all at work and doing what many others in the workplace were doing, eating etc while having meetings. SD if possible, mitigation like testing etc if not. Yesterday's committee was an absolute circus, long rambling questions with snippy 'answer succinctly! ' demands.

As an aside wtf was that around Harman's neck and how on earth are their findings reliable or relevant when she has even tweeted her opinions on Johnson, how is that not a conflict of interest. Imagine if in a proper court the staff were tweeting 'well he's guilty'. It just would not be allowed.

Well yes he would, but he doesn't have any decency. So here we are.

@Kassandra7 I understand your frustration that Johnson gets away with so much. I think most of us on here do. There have, however, been a few posters who think the sun shines out of his rear end so some people get a bit twitchy.

I have already apologised for calling it a Kangaroo Court and I should not have called it that.

Exactly @Roussette

In a couple of weeks or so we will be in the pre-election period. There is no way the decision could be published during that time, it would be against Parliamentary rules/guidance.

P.s. He has NO DECENCY. He has lied all his life and this is just a continuation of that

@Kassandra7 my sympathies to you

HOWEVER it is only by following processes to the letter that Johnson can be held to account and the committee won't be called a kangaroo court. We'd all like a decision sooner but we have May elections and there would be an absolute outcry if he was not exonerated but found guilty before the elections

I agree. But why did you call it a Kangaroo Court? Why do think that?

I am sorry for your loss Kassandra7. We have all suffered loss and sorrow one way or another over the course of the pandemic.

I don't agree that Harman and the others were pompous at all. I think they did a very good job of holding that bastard to account.

@IClaudine You are wrong. I would not complain if they came to a decision today.

You are also wrong if you think I am a Johnson supporter.

I fully understand why processes are in place and should be followed. However I do question how many chances this man should be given and how much time is being spent on this. If he had any decency he would admit that he misled Parliament and stop this waste of time and resources.

And if they did come to a decision today, Kassandra7 would not doubt complain about that too.

Even now, after everything, some people still won't admit what a lying charlatan Johnson is.

Meanwhile, my cat is writing a complaint letter to the Daily Hate Mail about their offensive comparison.

@Kassandra7 I think a lot of people are as angry as you are at all the delays, but the alternatives are sadly worse. If Parliament starts not following its own processes then that means yet another route to holding people to account is utterly discredited, and things are bad enough as they are. Your feelings are very understandable though. I didn't lose anyone in the pandemic, but my DD2 had to go into hospital with appendicitis and I wasn't allowed to be there because she'd just turned 18. No big deal by comparison, but it was really tough for her going into surgery for the first time in her life all by herself.

I apologise for using the term Kangaroo Court. It wasn't appropriate in this context.

I also want to make it clear that I am not a supporter of Johnson. I lost a very close family member and was unable to be either at their deathbed or be at their funeral. They died alone with their only living relative unable to be there. While those clowns partied. Although it's not really the parties I object to. It's the blatant lies.

For everyone that missed it. Here is the exchange about the wording 'kangaroo court' by his supporters.

To cut to the chase, watch from 5minutes onwards.

I think he makes it perfectly clear he is not in front of a kangaroo court but only if he is exonerated.

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1638624188867944461

And what would your decisions be on Johnson if you could make up your mind just like that on yesterday?

Maybe his fate could be decided on phone voting or summat. As a PP said, considering the hearing and carefully reading all that is put forward, is the opposite of a 'kangaroo court'. To decide yesterday based on his bluster would have him banged to rights I'm sure... and that would be a kangaroo court.

@borntobequiet I'm entitled to have a view. I did not say I could do it better myself. I said I could make up my mind based on what Johnson said yesterday. I suspect many other individuals feel the same.

The committee have given themselves time to consider the evidence. That's the opposite of a kangaroo court.

You described it as a kangaroo court, the MPs on it as pompous navel gazers and said you could do it better yourself. You said that a decision on what is an important constitutional issue on holding ministers accountable for their behaviour could be made in a day. If you want to be taken seriously, ditch the hyperbole.