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borntobequiet · 24/03/2023 08:20

Rhondaa · 24/03/2023 08:00

Well why don't you organise a march if you feel strongly about retirement ages? It would seem ironic to wonder if folk have become complacent whilst all you're doing about it is posting on mumsnet. I think you've answered your own question tbh.

@Roussette you do need to set fire to some buildings as well.

(I well remember the Brexit marches and the utter devastation they caused. There wasn’t a speck of litter in their wake, most unnatural.)

Roussette · 24/03/2023 08:14

Zonder · 24/03/2023 08:08

@Roussette that tweet is alarming. Almost makes me wish I'd watched QT. Almost...

It is alarming isn't it...

I fight it quite chilling that BJ always twisted what people said, and then lied, and for someone like the ex CEO of NatWest to come out and say that is what he did is something else.

Notonthestairs · 24/03/2023 08:09

Complacency is voting for a bullshitter and then expecting Parliamentary standards to survive unscathed. I guess that presupposes people care about standards in public life.
I read they can't raise the retirement age because our life expectancy is falling.

Zonder · 24/03/2023 08:08

@Roussette that tweet is alarming. Almost makes me wish I'd watched QT. Almost...

Roussette · 24/03/2023 08:05

Rhondaa · 24/03/2023 08:00

Well why don't you organise a march if you feel strongly about retirement ages? It would seem ironic to wonder if folk have become complacent whilst all you're doing about it is posting on mumsnet. I think you've answered your own question tbh.

Ummmm excuse me?!

Are you expecting me to have organised a March twenty minutes after I have posted on here?! That would be going some lol

Funny!

Your comment is a bit silly to be honest, but you do you like you always do!

Rhondaa · 24/03/2023 08:00

Roussette · 24/03/2023 07:08

Ironic to see this morning the massive riots all over France because of the rise from 62 to 64 pension age.

And yet here we are talking about ours going up to 67 in 2026 and then 68 in years to come.
Have we become complacenet?

Well why don't you organise a march if you feel strongly about retirement ages? It would seem ironic to wonder if folk have become complacent whilst all you're doing about it is posting on mumsnet. I think you've answered your own question tbh.

Roussette · 24/03/2023 07:38

"You would go and see Boris Johnson and tell him something. The next day you're listening to him on the radio, and he's telling the radio listeners, that you told him something else. It's quite alarming actually."

Sir Howard Davies, NatWest Group

I can really really imagine Johnson being like this. Gaslighting and lying.

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https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1639044255942430722

Roussette · 24/03/2023 07:30

toomuchlaundry · 24/03/2023 07:16

@Roussette I don’t think setting fire to buildings is something we should aspire too

Nor do I. I obviously didn't mean damage to properties

I mean a March. Making voices heard.

toomuchlaundry · 24/03/2023 07:16

@Roussette I don’t think setting fire to buildings is something we should aspire too

toomuchlaundry · 24/03/2023 07:14

My DM was a fervent Boris supporter, thought he was the bee’s knees during Brexit. Even she doesn’t believe him!

Roussette · 24/03/2023 07:08

Ironic to see this morning the massive riots all over France because of the rise from 62 to 64 pension age.

And yet here we are talking about ours going up to 67 in 2026 and then 68 in years to come.
Have we become complacenet?

Roussette · 24/03/2023 07:04

That is the only bit of QT I saw on Twitter. How telling.

I stopped watching QT when some of the plants people in the audience annoyed me too much.

This is why I find it completely bizarre that anyone can come on this thread and defend him. Because that is not what I am finding with people I know. Even my Tory through and through friend sent me a hilarious meme about his partying and lying.

jgw1 · 24/03/2023 06:50

PerkingFaintly · 24/03/2023 00:43

For those who don't click: not a single hand went up.
ShockShockShock

But JRM who is renowned for being in touch with public opinion told us quite categorically that Boris had won the minds of the people with his amazing performance on Wednesday.

PerkingFaintly · 24/03/2023 00:43

For those who don't click: not a single hand went up.
ShockShockShock

PerkingFaintly · 24/03/2023 00:42

"There are more people in this audience who voted for Boris Johnson than any other single party here. So let's have a show of hands shall we, who believes Boris Johnson was telling the truth?"

PerkingFaintly · 24/03/2023 00:39

Ah, yep, that's in the link.

PerkingFaintly · 24/03/2023 00:38

Just watched that live.Shock

Even more incredibly, as I put the sound up Fiona Bruce was just saying something like "... QT audience composition, more than half of this audience have previously voted for Boris Johnson"

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Crikeyalmighty · 23/03/2023 23:27

Sitting out in the garden for leaving party drinkypoos with wife next to you isnt work- as far as I'm aware Carrie was not in the government. Nor is getting jackets out to the corner shop bringing booze back in suitcases and hiring in karaoke etc. don't know about you but I've never worked anywhere where booze and karaoke was part of the days essential business and I work in entertainment industry- not politics- Anyone defending these shenanigans either is Tory PR or is desparate not to feel absolutely duped

Dyslexicwonder · 23/03/2023 20:00

Thank you pointy I was starting to doubt my own memory. I remember very clearly our chief nurse stating " there is no such thing as a work bubble" to encourage people to maintain social distancing at work and not to socialise. Yes Boris it went on for ages.

pointythings · 23/03/2023 19:50

@Dyslexicwonder same in our Trust - our 2020 Christmas do was on Teams. We got funding from the Trust charity for everyone to be sent a small parcel of nice things to their home - some biscuits, hot choc and so on. Please note: no actual NHS funding was spent on this. People ran marathons to rise the money to pay for it.

A lot of people, myself included, went to a lot of effort on our own time to have an event that would work online and it was pretty good. But don't bloody tell me we were having parties with cakes and sarnies in staffrooms - and yes, clinical staff were included.

jgw1 · 23/03/2023 19:46

Dyslexicwonder · 23/03/2023 19:42

Cakes and sarnies were present in nhs staff rooms

I dont know about that. Both sister and I are NHS, what I do know is my Dsis was reprimanded for sharing a cake both socially distanced and outside with her team outside in April or May 2021. We said good bye to colleagues who had given 35 years service without any meeting (most of 2020) or with outside socially distanced picinic (from May 2021). I remember well the first time I had an indoor coffee with a college was December 2021 and that was distanced too. The reality is that most NHS staff spent the best part of 2.5 years absolutely forbidden to gather inside unmasked. 2021 Christmas parties were banned in our trust. I have said this before but a group of junior doctors were disciplined for sharing a pizza in a staff room. I don't know where you worked but in my and my sister's trust the rules were rigidly adhered to.

I don't know where you worked

CCHQ?

pointythings · 23/03/2023 19:46

BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 23/03/2023 19:21

It's so inconvenient for people who want to defend Boris that the law at the time was about what was essential for work. They really have to show themselves up trying to relativise it.

It's a new Olympic discipline - mental gymnastics.

Dyslexicwonder · 23/03/2023 19:42

Cakes and sarnies were present in nhs staff rooms

I dont know about that. Both sister and I are NHS, what I do know is my Dsis was reprimanded for sharing a cake both socially distanced and outside with her team outside in April or May 2021. We said good bye to colleagues who had given 35 years service without any meeting (most of 2020) or with outside socially distanced picinic (from May 2021). I remember well the first time I had an indoor coffee with a college was December 2021 and that was distanced too. The reality is that most NHS staff spent the best part of 2.5 years absolutely forbidden to gather inside unmasked. 2021 Christmas parties were banned in our trust. I have said this before but a group of junior doctors were disciplined for sharing a pizza in a staff room. I don't know where you worked but in my and my sister's trust the rules were rigidly adhered to.