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Massive money vacuum pretending to be environmentally excusable

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Muddays · 28/12/2022 06:17

Does anyone actually know where the astronomical amount of money that the ULEZ charge has generated and increased over the past few years gone? I have tried to find out what it's being spent on and keep on ending up back at the start of my enquiry with vague fobbing off platitudes signifying absolutely nothing. E.g, are any charities receiving money from this charge, which would amount to millions each day?

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Ariela · 28/12/2022 10:30

What baffles me is that there is no interest in the fact that scrapping an older, low milage perfectly economical runaround costs more to the world's environment overall than replacing with a new computerised all singing all dancing ULEZ compliant (& especially if electrified) vehicle.

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Muddays · 28/12/2022 10:09

@GolfEchoRomeoTangoIndia I am asking in good faith. However, any nonprofit organisation with government 'support' has to smile big so the taxman plays nice eh?

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GolfEchoRomeoTangoIndia · 28/12/2022 09:47

I'm sceptical that you're asking in good faith, but anyway.....
The money goes to TfL, which is a non-profit-making entity, partially funded by government grant. As you may remember, in 2020/21/22 there were travel restrictions which resulted in huge loss of revenue to TfL. The money is helping with that hole in the budget, and also with switching the bus fleet to zero emissions.

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Muddays · 28/12/2022 09:35

@MrsDoyle351 I agree and am not naive. To quote a depressingly gormless drone with a title, Sadiq Khan, London Mayor, in the Guardian 5th March this year "the triple challenges of tackling toxic air pollution, the climate emergency and congestion mean we need to further reduce emissions from vehicles in London. We simply don't have time to waste.
"This is also a matter of social justice - with air pollution hitting the poorest communities the hardest. Nearly half of Londoners don't own a car but they are disproportionately feeling the damaging consequences polluting vehicles are causing."
Ok, So City Hall found that the poorest residential areas and all of London's hospitals, medical centres and care homes were in areas that breached the WHO guidelines for nitrogen dioxide and particulate matter.
Then we're told 'a scrappage scheme would help charities, small businesses and vulnerable people adapt."
Look up London scrappage scheme online on trusted news sites and brace yourself.
So that failed. Where's the money gone then eh?
Reducing congestion by massively charging the public (who often have no choice) would be more tolerable if the huge amount of money gained by the government daily actually went towards improving the 'poorest communities' in London, including hospitals and care homes as a "matter of social justice". Instead of a redundant and insulting scrappage scheme to distract everyone from the flaming obvious piss take and blatant theft from the screwed again public that are too busy reeling from the last corrupt ripoff to complain and question the next.

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MrsDoyle351 · 28/12/2022 06:27

Hehehe - that's pretty funny, thinking that they might give the money to charity.

It's almost like thinking the money generated from hospital car parks by staff and visitors paying for parking gets given to the hospital to help pay for services!

No - the money will be lining some rich bastard's pockets in the form of dividends and shares...

StellaGibson2022 · 28/12/2022 06:23

Watching with interest.